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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #325 on: 24-09-20, 09:40PM »
Just because they were not wearing the landyard doesn't mean they're not exempt. The landyard wasn't even designed for being exempt for masks anyway. And regardless our store ran out of the landyards at the start and never have enough stock for all exempt staff.

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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #326 on: 24-09-20, 10:39PM »
The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Wearing of Face Coverings in a Relevant Place) (England) (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 2020
Made23rd September 2020

Coming into force at 12.01 a.m. on 24th September 2020.
In accordance with section 45R of that Act the Secretary of State is of the opinion that, by reason of urgency, it is necessary to make this instrument without a draft having been laid before, and approved by a resolution of, each House of Parliament. 8)

These Regulations amend the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Wearing of Face Coverings in a Relevant Place) (England) Regulations 2020 (S.I. 2020/791) such that employees and other persons providing services in public houses will be required to wear face coverings when they are in close proximity to members of the public unless they are exempt or have a reasonable excuse.

No regulatory impact assessment has been prepared for these Regulations.

An Explanatory Memorandum has been published alongside this instrument at www.legislation.gov.uk.

"unless they are exempt or have a reasonable excuse"

Guidance
Face coverings: when to wear one, exemptions, and how to make your own
Updated 24 September 2020

Those who have an age, health or disability reason for not wearing a face covering should not be routinely asked to give any written evidence of this, this includes exemption cards. No person needs to seek advice or request a letter from a medical professional about their reason for not wearing a face covering.

Some people may feel more comfortable showing something that says they do not have to wear a face covering. This could be in the form of an exemption card, badge or even a home-made sign.

This is a personal choice and is not necessary in law.




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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #327 on: 25-09-20, 07:49AM »
So all colleagues need to wear a mask whilst on the shop floor (unless medically exempt).
Does this include in offices and out in back areas such as the warehouse not on the shop floor? As our store seem to be trying to enforce wearing a face mask in ALL areas of the store even in offices etc?

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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #328 on: 25-09-20, 09:12AM »
It is.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/592/contents/made

The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Wearing of Face Coverings on Public Transport) (England) Regulations 2020? :) :thumbup:
https://fullfact.org/online/police-mask-fines-arrests/  :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Also https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own

The reason the pandemic is still going on is because people like yourself don't wear a mask in public places because you think it's a conspiracy theory, stop spreading misinformation.
« Last Edit: 25-09-20, 10:20AM by Nomad »

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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #329 on: 25-09-20, 09:13AM »
From the government web site

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Staff in indoor settings

Face coverings must be worn by retail, leisure and hospitality staff working in areas that are open to the public and where they’re likely to come into contact with a member of the public.

Quite clear that backroom areas are not included and neither are dot com drivers unless they enter a customer's home but stay outside.
« Last Edit: 25-09-20, 09:14AM by gomezz »
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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #330 on: 25-09-20, 02:27PM »
It is.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/592/contents/made

The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Wearing of Face Coverings on Public Transport) (England) Regulations 2020? :) :thumbup:
https://fullfact.org/online/police-mask-fines-arrests/  :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Also https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own

The reason the pandemic is still going on is because people like yourself don't wear a mask in public places because you think it's a conspiracy theory, stop spreading misinformation.

"stop spreading misinformation"
Do you call the official government website "misinformation"? 8)
Not good.

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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #331 on: 25-09-20, 02:39PM »
So all colleagues need to wear a mask whilst on the shop floor (unless medically exempt).
Does this include in offices and out in back areas such as the warehouse not on the shop floor? As our store seem to be trying to enforce wearing a face mask in ALL areas of the store even in offices etc?

So all colleagues need to wear a mask whilst on the shop floor (unless medically exempt).
Yes.

As our store seem to be trying to enforce wearing a face mask in ALL areas of the store even in offices etc?

I suggest you politely ask for a written justification, of course signed by the person responsible for it.
Don't waste your time - let the tesco managers do the work :)

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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #332 on: 25-09-20, 11:41PM »
I don't want to wear a mask no one does but it's to protect ourselves, other workers our family's and friends so wherever we work let's just wear one,only part of my working week is customer facing I have never worn a mask but I  always will now partly out of fairness to those who are going to have to wear one all the timel so just be adults about it and be thankful we're still alive with jobs to moan about. I have friends in real dire straits due to covid facing hunger and homelessness having to wear a mask to work just doesn't compare some of you get a grip

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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #333 on: 26-09-20, 03:32AM »
So all colleagues need to wear a mask whilst on the shop floor (unless medically exempt).
Does this include in offices and out in back areas such as the warehouse not on the shop floor? As our store seem to be trying to enforce wearing a face mask in ALL areas of the store even in offices etc?

Could it be that you have a colleague in your store that has tested positive.

Could it be that you have a colleague working in the back areas that feels vulnerable and unsafe.

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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #334 on: 26-09-20, 05:05PM »
UPDATE - Can colleagues wear a face visor instead of a face covering?
No - Face visors can be worn in addition to face coverings but not instead of.

So basically everyone wearing a face shield/visor has to wear a mask/covering underneath,

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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #335 on: 27-09-20, 08:18AM »
a visor is a face covering!!!! has the government stated this rule?????

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« Reply #336 on: 27-09-20, 10:09AM »
Yes, they have stated what counts as face covering if you look at the information on their web site.  A visor does not meet those criteria.
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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #337 on: 27-09-20, 10:09AM »
Evidently a manager was telling me that all store managers had a message from the SD`s last week that visors were not allowed without a mask and masks have to be worn in the warehouse and were not allowed to be taken off. Seems a bit harsh as when in the warehouse nearly all the time have nobody else anywhere near me and it was nice just to take them off for a little bit just to have a bit of a "breather". All the Government advice I have seen states that masks must be worn when dealing in customer facing areas and nothing about when you are in the warehouse?

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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #338 on: 27-09-20, 10:58AM »
in that case i'll wear it as a chin warmer and spend more time outside the store in 8-)

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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #339 on: 27-09-20, 01:50PM »
 8-) you may as well...lots of shoppers and retail staff on Friday, dropping their masks to chin straps, or half mast under their noses..mainly the elderly customers I may add. Also only visors and no masks with some staff.  :-X
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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #340 on: 27-09-20, 02:13PM »
masks have to be worn in the warehouse and were not allowed to be taken off
That is out of date guidance seemingly based on the original government announcement.  Subsequently clarified on the government web site where it makes it clear that not needed where not likely to come in contact with customers and proper distancing can be maintained.
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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #341 on: 27-09-20, 06:36PM »
The info that came down on coms re face coverings has been printed off and put up by clock in machine at our store NO Visors without a mask. No masks if behind a screen. No masks needed in back areas unless social distancing is not possible. Masks for shop floor unless exempt

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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #342 on: 28-09-20, 11:08PM »
We've been told that even those who are exempt from wearing a mask HAVE to wear a visor on the shop floor as it's law. Is it correct?

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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #343 on: 29-09-20, 11:50AM »
It is not law, the English government hasn't made amy guidelines surrounding this. It would however probably be advised if it didn't trigger off whatever condition the person has that exempts them from wearing a face mask.

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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #344 on: 29-09-20, 02:35PM »
If your exemp on health grounds physical or mental you do not have to wear a face covering anywhere or provide any proof other than your spoken reason for not wearing one

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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #345 on: 29-09-20, 04:23PM »
That I believe makes the whole law pointless, as everyone could say I have such and such and therefore exempt from wearing one, I believe that a form of ID should be worn by the applicable (and can only be given out by GPs) and should be amended into the law as to not make it completely pointless.

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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #346 on: 29-09-20, 04:59PM »
oh i like that, how about an armband? i choose a star for the armband symbol!

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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #347 on: 29-09-20, 05:01PM »
That I believe makes the whole law pointless, as everyone could say I have such and such and therefore exempt from wearing one, I believe that a form of ID should be worn by the applicable (and can only be given out by GPs) and should be amended into the law as to not make it completely pointless.

I think you should officially propose this to the government. The next step is the armbands with the appropriate inscription or symbol. There were already such solutions, in Germany in the 1930s and 1940s.

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« Reply #348 on: 29-09-20, 05:08PM »
oh i like that, how about an armband? i choose a star for the armband symbol!

 :thumbup:  :)
star inscribed with the image of corona 19  :)

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Re: Face Masks
« Reply #349 on: 29-09-20, 05:20PM »
Search 2010 Equality Act
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