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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #200 on: 13-01-21, 11:01AM »
Do we know what the outcome was.?

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #201 on: 13-01-21, 12:48PM »
My hearing is on Friday. Does anyone have any advice please? I was silly to do it, but I didn't know that it counts as Tesco losing money, I am going to explain that and offer to pay back the total discount and apologise

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #202 on: 13-01-21, 12:59PM »
So how did they find out, that you did it? i am sure thats the card is misused by staff and management many times .

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #203 on: 13-01-21, 01:03PM »
I believe they have a system at head office- where any transaction activity is sent to the store manager, this is what I was told.

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #204 on: 13-01-21, 03:34PM »
It would have to be something triggered your transaction, did he use his/ her own debit card?

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #205 on: 13-01-21, 04:06PM »
Yes, that must have been it. As I say it was unintentional- and was a £50 discount-so looks bad. But, I have no previous record etc... Will offer to pay it back and will get a written statement from ky family member whereby they confirm that they put pressure on me to do it. I am worried - as my union rep contacted me after seeing the investigation notes and saying its more than likely going to be a dismissal

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #206 on: 14-01-21, 12:31PM »
You said you only agreed to fraudulently deprive the Company of money because you were put under pressure by a family member who was struggling financially due to a tough year and wanted to buy alcohol as Xmas presents.
You say you received £50 approx at discount meaning your family member’s Xmas gifts should have cost approx £550. I’d be asking them how on earth they can afford to be spending north of £500 on alcohol if they are so poor. Disgusting.

Instead of trying to wriggle out of your deliberate action of theft You should really be annoyed at both yourself for your deliberate dishonesty and your family member for their deliberate dishonesty.

This company and our shareholders treat you and your colleagues very well, and pay you extremely competitively. You decided to bite the hand that feeds you in order to save a family member a few quid off booze.

If your store management team have any cojones you’ll be getting sacked. Just be hopeful they don’t also decide to prosecute. I would.
« Last Edit: 14-01-21, 12:33PM by Nowanexmgr »

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #207 on: 14-01-21, 02:06PM »
Ok, maybe I haven't explained fully. It was during the 20% discount, so the total amount was just over £200 before discount. As well as covid, the alcohol was being sent as a gift to my cousins in laws- as he passed away in march last year- and my family wanted to provide a gift to them as a sort of remembrance- and alcohol as a gift is relevant in our culture. I wouldn't dishonestly look to cheat anyone out of anything.

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #208 on: 14-01-21, 02:13PM »
Still theft. Knowing Theft.

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #209 on: 14-01-21, 02:16PM »
It wasn't knowing theft. If I knew it would count as theft- I would have firmly said told them straight and said I will purchase the items and told them to pay me after.

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #210 on: 14-01-21, 03:05PM »
This company and our shareholders treat you and your colleagues very well, and pay you extremely competitively.

This isn't 20 years ago.Tesco aren't anywhere near as competitive now nor do they treat staff very well. In terms of employee remuneration, they are no longer top of the food chain.

As for the rest of what you say, fraud is fraud, and if he knowingly did it then yes he deserves to be reprimanded as such, the only caveat I'd guess is if this is his first offense, if he didn't know about the 2nd discount card for a family member then it could work in his favour, but a final is what I would expect at least.

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #211 on: 14-01-21, 05:14PM »
It wasn't knowing theft. If I knew it would count as theft- I would have firmly said told them straight and said I will purchase the items and told them to pay me after.

Ignorance of the law is no defence. And your other suggestion is also a sackable offence.

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #212 on: 14-01-21, 05:23PM »
It's not law though it's policy, and if ignorance is stemmed from lack of awareness because of no relevent training then it is a defence, in this case though it doesn't apply by the sounds of it.

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #213 on: 14-01-21, 05:32PM »
However it only tells you the policy regarding Colleague Clubcard in the original letter you get with your first card, so ignorance can hardly be used now can it.

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #214 on: 14-01-21, 05:44PM »
as i've said many times on here, if staff told them to stick the discount card where the sun don't shine and spent their hard earned money elsewhere they would avoid situations like this :-X

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #215 on: 15-01-21, 04:29PM »
So, I got resuspended at the meeting- and told that there'll be another investigation meeting before the disciplinary again? Has this happened to anyone before?

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #216 on: 15-01-21, 05:38PM »
This usually happens to ascertain more information, it's not enough for them to know that you knowingly misused your discount card, they're taking in other factors, the fact you may not have known it's a serious breach and gross misconduct. Previous disciplinaries, your efficacy as a worker and the type of person you are, in short they're protecting themselves by being fair to you by looking for mitigating factors or aggravating factors.

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #217 on: 15-01-21, 05:56PM »
Ah ok, thank you. Yeah, the meeting was really weird- I mean I was just asked how I attained so many clubcard points, so what will they do- check my clubcard statements?

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #218 on: 15-01-21, 09:33PM »
Not your statements more the data showing when and where your points came from.
Do not let anyone tell you there is not a decent job and life beyond Tesco.

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #219 on: 15-01-21, 09:44PM »
What sort of questions can I expect at this next investigation meeting?

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #220 on: 15-01-21, 10:28PM »
Hard to say really, but most likely around the incident of you using the staff clubcard for the family member and expect to be asked questions about your understanding of the policy on such matters.
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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #221 on: 16-01-21, 07:36AM »
The information is limited in store but if Clubcard are involved there is a lot more information that an be gathered. Sometimes Clubcard contact a store to trigger investigation.

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #222 on: 16-01-21, 09:43AM »
Thanks for your help guys. As I say- the disciplinary was yesterday and I was waiting on a decision- but they said it will go to another investigation. Is that in my favour, there's or a mix of both?

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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #223 on: 16-01-21, 12:36PM »
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Re: Disciplinary Meeting
« Reply #224 on: 19-01-21, 10:14AM »
How  time frames from investigation being done to   my displeny was planned in but adjourned  as my rep couldn't come 3 weeks have past still no 2nd meeting

 

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