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investigation meeting
« on: 05-11-19, 07:56PM »
We have a driver who has been called into an investigation for failing to deliver to customers. No details have been given so they can only guess that it was last week when our town centre was chock a block because of an accident and he didn't deliver his last two and as it was they didn't arrive back at store until after clocking out time.
They have been a driver for a good few years, very capable and in that time has probably brought back far less than drivers who have only been doing the job a couple of months. There has been drivers who have brought back half their trip and nothing has been said or done to them so this driver is feeling very aggrieved about being singled out.
Any ideas or information which might come in handy which I can pass on?
« Last Edit: 05-11-19, 07:59PM by helpme »

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Re: investigation meeting
« Reply #1 on: 05-11-19, 08:06PM »
If the drivers who left half of their delivery undelivered still works there, get the driver who is being investigated to obtain a written confirmation that the driver who left half the delivery received no disciplinary action and make sure that it wasn't due to any extenuating circumstances. If during the investigation the driver receives a disciplinary, get him to raise a grievance for unfavourable treatment citing the disparity in disciplinaries metered out. Rules have to apply to everyone equally unless there's a medical/disability related reason for it.
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Re: investigation meeting
« Reply #2 on: 05-11-19, 08:39PM »
We have a driver who has been called into an investigation for failing to deliver to customers. No details have been given so they can only guess that it was last week when our town centre was chock a block because of an accident and he didn't deliver his last two and as it was they didn't arrive back at store until after clocking out time.
They have been a driver for a good few years, very capable and in that time has probably brought back far less than drivers who have only been doing the job a couple of months. There has been drivers who have brought back half their trip and nothing has been said or done to them so this driver is feeling very aggrieved about being singled out.
Any ideas or information which might come in handy which I can pass on?

Tell him to attend the investigation and name names of the drivers who have had no further action taken for such in the past. They need to be fair and consistent in the approach to all staff. We all know it doesn't happen at Tesco. This is why Tesco lose unfair dismissal claims. Maybe it'll back fire and everyone will get the sack and more than a load will go undelivered.

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Re: investigation meeting
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Re: investigation meeting
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Re: investigation meeting
« Reply #5 on: 06-11-19, 12:33AM »
Short answer, no.

Longer answer, there's no requirement for both a male and female manager, infact there isn't even a requirement for two managers, it's one manager and one notetaker who may, or may not be a manager.

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Re: investigation meeting
« Reply #6 on: 06-11-19, 07:52AM »
Think your mixing it up with staff searches ruling
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Re: investigation meeting
« Reply #7 on: 06-11-19, 03:04PM »
Should they be given full details of the allegations before the meeting or are management allowed to withhold details until the meeting?

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Re: investigation meeting
« Reply #9 on: 06-11-19, 06:56PM »
Allegation is driver didn't deliver to customers. If the driver admits they returned with load they should be aware of the full details.

You are better off focusing on why. Could be numerous legitimate reasons why the load was bought back (danger of breaking driving time regs/traffic incidents/had caring responsibilities or needed to attend something after work)

If it's still judged worthy of a disciplinary meeting then bring up how previous drivers doing the same thing have been.treated.

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Re: investigation meeting
« Reply #10 on: 06-11-19, 06:57PM »
Should they be given full details of the allegations before the meeting or are management allowed to withhold details until the meeting?

Full details and time to read through properly, otherwise how can you prepare your defence if you're going in blind?
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Re: investigation meeting
« Reply #11 on: 06-11-19, 06:59PM »
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« Reply #13 on: 06-11-19, 09:22PM »
Administrator Comment Topic "investigation meeting" not "staff searches" which can be found here Staff Searches.
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Re: investigation meeting
« Reply #14 on: 07-11-19, 07:01AM »
Interesting sentence from Long Gone, about mainly female managers starting early and male managers doing later shifts. Same in the Extra I work in. What's that about?

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« Reply #15 on: 07-11-19, 07:09AM »
Simple solution, where is says any issues and they put no, you / yes and state "non compliant" and refuse to sign!
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Re: investigation meeting
« Reply #16 on: 07-11-19, 08:32AM »
In the Extra store where I work, nights, 5 managers, all male. What's that about?

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« Reply #18 on: 07-11-19, 11:27AM »
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Re: investigation meeting
« Reply #19 on: 07-11-19, 01:22PM »
Anywhere to discuss this Nomad, or just shut down?

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Re: investigation meeting
« Reply #20 on: 07-11-19, 01:25PM »
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Re: investigation meeting
« Reply #21 on: 02-01-20, 11:06PM »
Had one lad pulled as in 'you finish at 7pm, but at  5.50pm you stopped for 10 mins' as in 10 miles away from store ?  Followed by yea I stopped for a p**s, written warning.

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« Reply #22 on: 03-01-20, 09:15AM »
 8-) a written warning for answering an urgent call of nature? They're the ones taking the p**s  :-X
« Last Edit: 03-01-20, 09:16AM by lucgeo »
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« Reply #23 on: 03-01-20, 10:12AM »
Isn't that worth a challenge as a dignity at work issue?
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« Reply #24 on: 03-01-20, 11:00AM »
Exactly...dignity at work...human rights etc...
A shopfloor worker would not be disciplined for taking a toilet break, so why is a driver? Ten minutes is a conservative length of time for a driver to find a convenience, park up and use the facility. Especially as instore the same amount of time could and is often taken.
Who are these people? The p**s police? Insinuating that a driver, only 10 miles from store, should hold on :-X
« Last Edit: 03-01-20, 11:01AM by lucgeo »
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