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beentheredoneit

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Food Stock Managers
« on: 01-10-19, 08:04PM »
Hi
I thought that as we are in a rather strange ( even by their standards), it might be useful to have a thread for food stock managers who have or have not lost their positions. If we could keep to this topic, it may be of benefit to those affected.
The timescale of 6 months has been memtioned.  In my briefing no timescale was mentioned, so I told Ski would hang on for redundancy.
Anyone experienced different - one near me was told 12 months (large extra), another took .com team manager almost straight away .....
Experiences please.
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Re: Food Stock Managers
« Reply #1 on: 02-10-19, 06:30AM »
Do you think redundancy will be offered in 6 months? There is a vacancy instore just now I could move into but would rather hold out for redundancy if its on the table. All I keep getting told is its an annual review, so soft structure change and not a formal process.

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Re: Food Stock Managers
« Reply #2 on: 02-10-19, 07:39AM »
« Last Edit: 02-10-19, 07:44AM by lucgeo »
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Re: Food Stock Managers
« Reply #8 on: 02-10-19, 08:23PM »
Probably because Tesco know if it was voluntary redundancy they would never staff a shop on top of the vacancy's they have now.

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Re: Food Stock Managers
« Reply #9 on: 03-10-19, 11:36AM »
Simply they can't afford to pay out that much.
 

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« Reply #11 on: 03-10-19, 06:39PM »
Think a lot of food stock managers have long lengths of service and thus experience. Think the worry is if they offered voluntary redundancies too many would leave and the business would end up in the same situation it did with merchandising ie too many quit leaving a mass of vacancies and lots of training needed by people remaining to up-skill themselves

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« Reply #14 on: 08-10-19, 05:46PM »
Lol, That is so trasparent as to be not there. Any tribunal would see that for what it is.

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Re: Food Stock Managers
« Reply #17 on: 08-10-19, 08:49PM »
I'm quite interested to know how they measure the behavior criterion, as to the layman it sounds like office politics holds sway in who gets promoted and how people get rated on performance (we all know it does, but having an implied political measure such as "behaviour" confirms and legitimises that it's who you are, not how you do that gets you promoted, which is not a good thing").

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« Reply #18 on: 08-10-19, 09:39PM »
Certain roles are easy to get promoted from. Or do certsin things for the store ie lots of community nonsense charity work on store time of course. The service manager role that has mainly gone was an easy route up to the next easiest role of personel manager. I've seen pms progress through the company without ever having had a filling manager role.

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Re: Food Stock Managers
« Reply #19 on: 09-10-19, 09:02AM »
I'm quite interested to know how they measure the behavior criterion, as to the layman it sounds like office politics holds sway in who gets promoted and how people get rated on performance (we all know it does, but having an implied political measure such as "behaviour" confirms and legitimises that it's who you are, not how you do that gets you promoted, which is not a good thing").

Generally it would be behind the scenes against shop floor. It's ok to complain and challenge in an office but not to bring it to shop floor and involve others, bring down the team. It's hard when it's personal to you and I speak from experience as I have been through this myself, twice. The compliance role was left hanging a very long time. They knew the role was vulnerable and had to live with it. I don't honestly know what is better as its hard to live with this hanging over you but if you have warning you can do things to help live mortgage insurance and look at moving into other roles. You can make life choices like not buying that new car but on the other hand you have to live with knowing your job may not be safe. On the other side of things a structure change with no warning does not have this hanging over you.
I think the questions to ask are ones that can be answered. Until a full structure change comes a lot of the questions can't be answered. If store managers and people partners do know exact figures of roles being removed in time they will be told not to give out information and until it comes it will only be at best a guide.
I think the questions to be asked are about vacancies now or upcoming in your area.
-details of vacancies now and upcoming
-are you going to be invited to apply for vacancies
-what happens if you opt not to apply, does this mean that you have chosen to make yourself vulnerable and will it be held against you
-expected time scales
-will any vacancies be restricted to vulnerable roles and if so when
The list goes on

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Re: Food Stock Managers
« Reply #20 on: 09-10-19, 10:17AM »
It's also important to ask how these performance measures are measured, if there is no structure or measurable elements that constitutes a rating, it could serve Tesco managers as a backdoor to illegitimately start the SYP process against said managers as a way to save the company money by "managing them out of the business", it also could raise further questions on what oversite or governance is in place to make sure that the SYP process is used legitimately.

When a company has strong corporate governance measures in place, litigation is managed better as a result.
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Re: Food Stock Managers
« Reply #21 on: 09-10-19, 10:56AM »
A miss on behaviour, is so random, that it can't surely be recognised as such. Behaviour, is an ongoing assessment, needing to be highlighted and met throughout the assessment period. I would certainly challenge that, as should for any future reason, your criteria plays a part, this could be deemed a negative.
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« Reply #23 on: 09-10-19, 08:31PM »
On the face of it, this seems quite simple. The Food Stock control job is not going to be there in 6 months or whatever it is in your store. The job will be gone. You can't carry on doing it. With that said, don't you just have 2 options really?

Apply for other managerial jobs if you see any roles advertised that seem acceptable to yourself in the next 6 months if your wish is to stay with the company in a managerial role.

Or:

Don't apply for any other jobs within the 6 month period as you feel they're not suitable and then your job is axed at the end of the 6 months. At this point they surely have no other option but to make you redundant and pay you off as your job no longer exists. Obviously if you're reasonably long service and would welcome an early retirement or a fresh start elsewhere than this would seem like a good option. Really, what else can the company actually do, legally?

Obviously this is a very important time and it would probably be advisable to take some kind of legal advice if you're looking to ride out the 6 months and see what happens. My guess is they'll get as many food stockies into other roles voluntarily and then when it comes towards the end of the 6 month period they'll offer the remaining people who have dug their heels in redundancy.

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Re: Food Stock Managers
« Reply #24 on: 09-10-19, 08:54PM »
There will be no offer of redundancy. If after 6 months you have not accepted another role you have been offered you will be dismissed from the company.

 

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