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Author Topic: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.  (Read 6658 times)

BlueToon

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New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« on: 10-05-19, 06:47PM »
I would be interested to hear of any stories/incidents around the accuracy (or not) of the newer trackers.
There appear to be potential problems with the accuracy of the location data &/or speed.

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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #1 on: 10-05-19, 07:19PM »
We had the new vans last September and within days numerous drivers were issued with warnings for speeding.

BlueToon

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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #2 on: 10-05-19, 08:02PM »
It appears that they could be rather inaccurate.
Has the problem continued since then as well?

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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #3 on: 12-05-19, 05:21PM »
If the trackers use the same data as the satnavs they can be over half a mile out on changes of speed limits. This has been pointed out countless times to our lead manager but she still keeps peddling out the lets talk rubbish.
And why keep making our job harder by using Mercs with long wheel bases that means some places become inaccessible? Ivecos may not be perfect but it better than having to use a sack barrow down a muddy lane.

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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #4 on: 13-05-19, 09:18AM »
Cheers helpme & driverdave.
I am still trying to find out exactly what unit is fitted along with the error factor it has.
The more ammo I can gather, the better to get the problem corrected.

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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #5 on: 13-05-19, 06:29PM »
We still get more drivers than with the previous vans allegedly speeding but it has decreased from when the new vans were introduced.  We were assured the trackers had been fully checked for accuracy on speed and location. I always try to use the limiter and cruise control as much as possible.

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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #6 on: 19-05-19, 01:28AM »
The trackers are s**t and the data can be manipulated.

When I was at winnall, the drivers all went from about an average of a D to B.

No one was below a C anymore...no one changed driving behaviour.


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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #7 on: 20-05-19, 09:38AM »
How is the camera that faces the driver? Anyone been caught doing something they shouldn't be?

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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #8 on: 20-05-19, 09:53AM »
What camera facing drivers. We have the new mercs & they dont have these in. Unless they are covert?

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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #9 on: 22-05-19, 01:02AM »
We're still on Iveco fleet but the rumours going round are that they all have a camera facing the driver. There would have been a lot of drivers that would have had to change their ways in my store if that were the case!

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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #10 on: 22-05-19, 06:53AM »
Where are the cameras mounted in the cab?

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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #11 on: 22-05-19, 10:24AM »
In distribution vehicles, the camera is built into the microlise tablet but not active. If a driver had an accident and the police were involved it would be interesting if information from microlise could be used in evidence. My guess would be no.( Not calibrated) And if not how could the same evidence be used in a disciplinary meeting. Microlise was not brought in to monitor performance.Its therefore being misused and should be challenged.

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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #12 on: 25-05-19, 06:58PM »
Everything is to monitor drivers.

I once asked for cctv to be pulled for an incident. Not allowed, against company policy.

Apparently company policy to pull cctv from cabs and store for condensing.

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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #13 on: 05-07-19, 07:18PM »
Having the same problem at our store with trackers is it a different company dealing with the trackers up to now 2 drivers have been issued with warnings and am surprised they are excellent drivers been with Tesco years and up to now had excellent records funny how things have changed since getting new vans to help need answers and quick :o ??? 

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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #14 on: 09-10-19, 12:05AM »
We've got the new 2018 Mercedes, and some (but not all) have the trackers.

I've been caught 3 times.
Two were definitely wrong, and the first, I didn't question because I didn't know better, but was probably also wrong.
I had to send the manager out to one, the tracker claimed I did 40mph around a roundabout, and lived, during the school rush!
Can't even do 30mph in my car around that roundabout...
Let alone the roundabout is blind to your right side, so doing 40mph implies I didn't slow down, at all, during a school rush, and the exit was at about 2 o'clock, so inside lane...

Yeah,they dropped that one pretty quickly. Lol

I started logging my own telemetry after that one, but gave up because my phone kept overheating. Lol

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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #15 on: 05-11-19, 12:05AM »
Within the first month of getting the new vans in March every driver got pulled up for doing 40 in a 40 however the tracker brings it up as a 30. I also got done 3 times for speeding up too early from a 30 but my managers are completely useless so it went to a meeting and then forgot about.

BlueToon

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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #16 on: 05-11-19, 07:01AM »
For Info:
One store has a meeting in November between drivers, tesco & microlise, following a collective grievance.
It will be interesting to see the results of that.
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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #17 on: 05-11-19, 10:52AM »
My view is that there should be an in cab alert to let the driver know when they have triggered the tracker.  This would give positive feedback to encourage driving to the company standard.

(for the life of me I cannot get a good score on harsh braking)
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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #18 on: 01-03-20, 08:14PM »
We had new mercs about two years ago, From day one the management had a field day pulling drivers into the office with a view to disciplinary meets, At least one driver lost his job driving due to what we all said were faulty tracking devices, Its only been admitted recently that the trackers were inaccurate.. No apologies issued! How very typical. The companies blind faith in technology to micromanage us all verges on obsession.

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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #19 on: 01-03-20, 09:28PM »
The practice of using potentially faulty automated devices to review performance is treading legally murky waters, if you fire an employee based on the data of an automated device and said employee takes the big T to an employment tribunal for unfair dismissal, the defence has to first prove that the software operates as it should and that it complies with capability studies for this particular aspect of the role. The fact that a driver has been dismissed and then shortly afterwards admittance that the software is faulty leaves Tesco to be sued to liquidation.

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Re: New Mercedes vans with microlise trackers.
« Reply #20 on: 12-03-20, 11:45AM »
We had a driver pinged for doing 56 in a 30. Location was on the edge of a village, about to leave 30 limit into national limit (50).
When he asked for the tracker data for before and after the event, it came back as; Minute 1 doing 30, Minute 2 doing 56 with no harsh acceleration and minute 3 doing 40 with harsh acceleration. This was moved up the chain of driver management  and all came back saying tracker could not be faulty! They reduced punishment from dismissal to written warning. Was going to appeal, but found a better job elsewhere.

 

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