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Re: bereavement
« Reply #100 on: 25-05-20, 06:43PM »
I would go off with stress the company doesn’t give a dam anymore.Look after yourself.

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« Reply #101 on: 18-06-20, 10:48PM »
I lost a relative just yesterday, and now being told they may not be considered a ‘close relative’, despite the fact I’ve been this person’s carer for years.

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« Reply #102 on: 19-06-20, 03:32AM »
It's shouldn't really be challenged but (from experience in our store) a lot of Asian workers go off with 3 to 4 different elderly relatives / cousins etc, same for friends and such, just explain that it's a relative of yours who's dear to you and to put it down for bereavement, if they don't then you can always challenge it, so don't back down on it, everyone has their interpretation and some are closer to some than others. You've always go equality to fall back on too if anyone else has had any "non" relatives pass and such as you should be also entitled to it.

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Under normal circumstances we would class immediate family as spouses, partners, parents, in-laws, siblings, children and grandparents, but we understand that not everyone has the same family situation, and therefore bereavement leave will be assessed on a case by case basis depending on your individual circumstances. 
« Last Edit: 19-06-20, 03:39AM by oldfashionedplayer »

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« Reply #103 on: 19-06-20, 08:24AM »
I think I heard there was new legislation being planned to be passed through regarding bereavement leave, at the moment, it's a bit lacking though.

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« Reply #104 on: 19-06-20, 08:50AM »
It's shouldn't really be challenged but (from experience in our store) a lot of Asian workers go off with 3 to 4 different elderly relatives / cousins etc, same for friends and such, just explain that it's a relative of yours who's dear to you and to put it down for bereavement, if they don't then you can always challenge it, so don't back down on it, everyone has their interpretation and some are closer to some than others. You've always go equality to fall back on too if anyone else has had any "non" relatives pass and such as you should be also entitled to it.

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Under normal circumstances we would class immediate family as spouses, partners, parents, in-laws, siblings, children and grandparents, but we understand that not everyone has the same family situation, and therefore bereavement leave will be assessed on a case by case basis depending on your individual circumstances. 

Thank you, I was hoping it would be a case by case basis, and not just a case of where someone sits on your family tree! I have a very small family, only six of us left now that we’ve lost a family member this week, so this death has left a gaping hole, especially as some of us were his carers.  I will give my manager a call later and see what information I can get.

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« Reply #105 on: 23-07-20, 08:44PM »
I was lead to believe I had been issued compassionate leave for the days I took off in bereavement. I took off one week - three days when we found out the relative was near the end and then passed, and two days around the funeral. I’ve just checked my payslip and discovered all of it was coded as holiday, which I am very unhappy with, was not informed of, and did obviously did not agree with

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« Reply #106 on: 23-07-20, 09:00PM »
"Led to believe" was this in writing or verbal and was/was not witnessed by anybody.
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« Reply #107 on: 23-07-20, 11:57PM »
I was lead to believe I had been issued compassionate leave for the days I took off in bereavement. I took off one week - three days when we found out the relative was near the end and then passed, and two days around the funeral. I’ve just checked my payslip and discovered all of it was coded as holiday, which I am very unhappy with, was not informed of, and did obviously did not agree with

In my experience a few years ago with my grandmother dying , any time taken when the person is ill/dying is hol/unpaid but time taken after someone close has died is bereavement  the amount of paid bereavement depends on how close a relative and your manager.

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« Reply #108 on: 24-07-20, 07:47AM »
I was lead to believe I had been issued compassionate leave for the days I took off in bereavement. I took off one week - three days when we found out the relative was near the end and then passed, and two days around the funeral. I’ve just checked my payslip and discovered all of it was coded as holiday, which I am very unhappy with, was not informed of, and did obviously did not agree with

How many days do you work??
Was it a close relative that passed, or a friend?
The usual practice around bereavement, is a week off....pro rata.

If it was a close family member, then it's been coded as holiday in error? Speak to your manager.
If not, then compassionate leave is unpaid, holiday or work time back.
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« Reply #109 on: 24-07-20, 07:27PM »
Yes, I come from an extremely small family (only six of us left) so we are all close. I was a carer for this particular relative, so it should be obvious to them that we were very close! I work five days a week, which is why I believed I had five days compassionate leave. I wouldn’t have minded them being unpaid, but I don’t appreciate holidays being used without my knowledge. I’ve been advised to submit a pay query form for it

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« Reply #110 on: 24-07-20, 08:31PM »
Were you a recognised carer for your relative?

Close relatives, that warrant paid bereavement leave are categorised in being, grandparents, parents,spouse, children and in law/ common law relatives. These should all be listed under the online policies for people bereavement leave. ( I don't have access to these policies anymore ) others or extended paid leave are at the discretion of the PP.

If your deceased relative wasn't under the recognised family bereavement leave category, but you have it noted in your file, that you were their recognised carer, then paid leave should be given.

My sincere condolences for your loss.
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« Reply #111 on: 24-07-20, 11:52PM »
Aunts and uncles should really be included in that list! My manager is aware I was one of the carers, as I couldn’t have shifts moved to certain days because of it. Pretty sure nothing was ever noted on my file though, as I found out recently my own health condition hasn’t been recorded, despite being declared at the beginning of my employment. They don’t keep records updated at all

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« Reply #112 on: 25-07-20, 07:27AM »
Families and bereavement is not set in stone. You can have a sister you have not seen for 20 years but a cousin you meet weekly. It should be case by case and your situation sounds like it has been coded wrong. A mistake at a time that you don't need a mistake.

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« Reply #113 on: 25-07-20, 08:28AM »
Aunts and uncles should really be included in that list! My manager is aware I was one of the carers, as I couldn’t have shifts moved to certain days because of it. Pretty sure nothing was ever noted on my file though, as I found out recently my own health condition hasn’t been recorded, despite being declared at the beginning of my employment. They don’t keep records updated at all

Then the fact that your manager knew you were a carer, and didn't move your shifts, would be a recognition.

I really think it's a case, that when the exceptions were done, your manager wasn't present, and another has instructed the coding, not knowing the full facts. However you should have been given the choice beforehand, how you wanted to take the leave ( unpaid, holiday, shift swap, time back etc...)


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« Reply #114 on: 26-07-20, 09:48PM »
I’m going to submit a pay query, with some details of how close the connection on the form. As we are such a small family, we are all close and in regular contact. There is not a day I don’t hear from them all!

Thank you for the support. This exact situation happened when I had a parent pass away also. I’m starting to wonder whether they code it as holiday, in the hopes you won’t care during a difficult time and will just let it go!

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« Reply #115 on: 27-07-20, 09:23AM »
I understand why you think that but it sounds like a mistake. A mistake at a time when it is a bad time to have to deal with it. Some people find it hard to admit they have made a mistake but it happens to all of us. It can be rectified though.

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« Reply #116 on: 28-08-20, 11:14AM »
Well, Tesco are refusing to budge on this. It’s lovely when the company you work for decides how close you are to your own family! I didn’t even get the option of any of it being unpaid, and I need those holidays for other things I need to take care of.

Most of my immediate family are already gone, I only have two people remaining that Tesco class as close family. So I guess I better start distancing from everyone else now, for fear of not being allowed leave should anything happen to them!

Tesco have been messing me around my entire employment. Pretty sick of it now.

 

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