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Title: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: OpShunned on 23-01-17, 11:08AM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: oliver on 23-01-17, 11:20AM
Opshunnd share market is another form of gambling depending on how long it is to buy home theres no garentees i do the save as you earn and if they dont go up i just get my money back so don't loosea anything its another way of saving for something,and there isn't a good interest rate anywhere,these people are short sellers they do it in many companies to make quick bucks for themselves.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: OpShunned on 23-01-17, 11:29AM
Fair points Oliver  :)

What struck me most is the trend of other 'shorters' to pull out of the supermarket feeding grounds yet this 'Delores' has ventured into waters that others have left.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Valleycommando on 23-01-17, 03:23PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: OpShunned on 23-01-17, 04:34PM
They have valley commando:
Tesco PLC
LON: TSCO - Jan 23, 4:30 PM GMT
195.16GBXPrice decrease3.14 (1.59%)
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: londoner83 on 23-01-17, 08:38PM
Think they are expecting share price  to go down after Brexit is triggered.....as pound will probably fall v Euro and everything we import will become more expensive. As wages nationally are stagnant that will lead to less being spent in Tesco.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: plugster on 23-01-17, 09:36PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: just curious on 23-01-17, 09:50PM
" No one knows whats going to happen to Tosco in five years ".

With the deficit in the pension fund , the amount of debt the company is in , the state of some of the stores , the false accounting scandal ( that has still not been resolved with heavy fines issued / prosecutions made  ? ) , and the way that the company in general is being managed , then whats to say the company will still be around in five years , it could possibly go the same way as BHS , Woolworths , Comet and many other big retailers ?, or even be subject to a possible take over by some foreign owned company ?  :o :o :-X :-X
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: thecleaningwoman on 23-01-17, 10:15PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: plugster on 23-01-17, 11:02PM
Probably see the end game when Dastardly Dave and Mattley have milked their bonuses and disappeared into the sunset. Then we'll see what damage they've done. By then most people on this site won't give a rats ass.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: alf on 23-01-17, 11:39PM
If anyone here  could give a definitive answer on whether to buy or sell Tesco shares, well frankly, they wouldn't be stacking shelf's in a supermarket.

The way i look at it, currently I've invested less into shares, than what I'll get if I sell, unless that changes I'm happy enough staying put.

Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: BossHog89 on 24-01-17, 10:21AM
I've been thinking of selling mine, but I don't know my shares reference number and after 30 minutes clicking through various pages I am non the wiser on how to sell my shares.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: his scots tie on 24-01-17, 11:34AM
Go online to Equniti and set up an account, or give them a call and sell them over the phone.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: OpShunned on 24-01-17, 10:01PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: oliver on 25-01-17, 10:18AM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: GreenGrocer on 25-01-17, 01:18PM
The Tesco share price is now at 1999 levels. DL you will need to get some false accountants in or the Supertanker will explode. The only way forward now would be a take over but who wants shops where running costs are so high. Get rid of majority of managers, get staff filling with jackets on and dim the lights all day.  :)
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: OpShunned on 12-04-17, 12:21PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Employee101 on 12-04-17, 12:57PM
Share prices often increase on rumour and speculation, and Tesco is a very good example of this. The high point of 196 was at yesterday's closing price. All the smart investors would have sold and re-purchased at the low 180s today.

 Tesco is one of the greatest underperformers in the entire market, and I would advise people to steer clear of it.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Trolleywally on 12-04-17, 12:59PM
When I retired In August 2015 sold all my shares and kept 10 shares just to have a vote in the AGM and get a small dividend every six months.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: OpShunned on 12-04-17, 01:09PM
Share prices often increase on rumour and speculation, and Tesco is a very good example of this. The high point of 196 was at yesterday's closing price. All the smart investors would have sold and re-purchased at the low 180s today.

With Dave Dewis bullish, the media forecasting good results, why would anyone sell shares that may increase on the back of it? Surely you'd wait for the spike that day and sell the following morning rather than re-buy and gamble they climb again?

People were telling me that the share price would rise today, not fall quite dramatically.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Employee101 on 12-04-17, 04:24PM
Share dealing is always a gamble. Often the increase is conjured up by nothing more than sentiment (and bs from CEOs) and is already priced in before results are released. It happened in the last quarter's figures as well, and often happens right across the market. Experienced investors who know what they are doing can see the signs and cues often before they happen.

Nobody gets it right every time, but there are ways and means of minimising risk and increasing profit. Tesco is a terrible share, because it is wildly unpredictable, which mirrors the company itself. Maybe when all of the fines have been paid, and if the Booker merger goes through, things will start to improve over the long term. I still wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: blutopia on 12-04-17, 05:20PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: plugster on 12-04-17, 08:55PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Employee101 on 12-04-17, 09:59PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: OvaSees on 12-04-17, 10:41PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: TheViking on 12-04-17, 11:05PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: sunshineman on 01-05-17, 06:19PM
How do we check on our current shares. Not sure how many i have and if to sell them or not
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Cheekymonkey007 on 01-05-17, 07:07PM
How do we check on our current shares. Not sure how many i have and if to sell them or not

Shares tel no: automated system
0371 384 2976
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: sunshineman on 01-05-17, 07:25PM
Is there a way to do it online ? I used to check online a couple of years ago but I have forgotten the details of the website.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: fargone on 01-05-17, 07:35PM
Personally, I will be parking them for five years.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: his scots tie on 01-05-17, 08:27PM
shareview.co.uk/tesco
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: just curious on 01-05-17, 08:42PM
Personally, I will be parking them for five years.

Good luck to you if the company gets turned around and the share price goes up  :thumbup: :thumbup:, looking how the share price has been over the last few years i wouldn't hold my breath though  8-) 8-) . I personally myself would cash em in and take the money and run before they possibly go the same way as BHS and Comet etc  :( :( :'( :'(.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: picktocube on 01-05-17, 08:51PM
The only thing that may make the shares a bit more profitable is the re-introduction of the dividends . This makes them a little bit more attractive for investors .
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Wirey2020 on 01-05-17, 09:12PM
The only thing that may make the shares a bit more profitable is the re-introduction of the dividends . This makes them a little bit more attractive for investors .
I believe that is happening this financial year
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: picktocube on 01-05-17, 09:18PM
Yes ,it is ,and I suppose it also depends on what percentage they will be paying out aswell.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Weed on 23-08-17, 12:30PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/tesco-accounting-compensation-scheme-customers-millions-fca-sfo-a7907811.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/tesco-accounting-compensation-scheme-customers-millions-fca-sfo-a7907811.html)

A rise on the shares today so far due to this but still not making up for the losses.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: smartass on 23-08-17, 01:55PM
Does this complicate things?

https://ibb.co/eJg8HQ
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: terra on 23-08-17, 02:01PM
And how do you claim if you bought through BAYE as it wants copies of contracts of purchase...or don't staff count
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Wearethehearts on 23-08-17, 02:13PM
you cant claim if you bought through BAYE drastic has put a statement on the HISTESCO site , saying only available if you bought independently from baye.

Another slap in the face and show of contempt to those he hopes to help turn the company around.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Trolleywally on 24-08-17, 12:48AM
Sell most of your shares and keep a few shares as interest in the company and a vote at the AGM as this is what I did after I retired.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: notsofunny on 05-10-17, 09:00PM
When I retired In August 2015 sold all my shares and kept 10 shares just to have a vote in the AGM and get a small dividend every six months.


 ;D ;D ;D :D :D  Hope the 10p Dividend helps you In your retirement ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Trolleywally on 06-10-17, 12:47AM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: OvaSees on 06-10-17, 09:51AM
Don't forget that at the moment Drastic walked in the share price opened at 189.60 and last night it closed at 186.60 - the company is worth 1.58% less than when he walked in despite his 'turnaround'. The return of dividends is indeed welcome although the yield is lower under his guidance. Drastic himself only owns 100,000 shares and only buys 70-odd a month through his benefits package. Alan Stewart has the same deal and only owns half as many shares...
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: GreenGrocer on 06-10-17, 12:19PM
Oversees the "only" kills me.

Especially when he is getting 4 million bonus and 150k relocation.

I bet when he leaves he'll still have 100k of shaes or 180K of cash because it'll just be like forgot about pocket change.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: OvaSees on 06-10-17, 02:12PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: OpShunned on 06-10-17, 10:34PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: GreenGrocer on 07-11-17, 12:21PM
Tesco PLC
LON: TSCO - Nov 7, 12:09 PM GMT
176.40GBXPrice decrease0.15 (0.08%)

Isn't Dave's job remit to improve the share value :question:
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: calvin on 23-01-18, 10:11PM
Can anyone tell me when the 3 year saye will be available. Is it early Feb or March? Thanks.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Sam29 on 23-01-18, 10:24PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: brucie on 10-02-18, 10:45AM
one of my colleagues tells me there is a forth option on this years share options to take cash, without buying the shares and immediately selling them. if you do this take the cash without buying and selling the shares, you will lose at yesterdays close 49p per share profit you would have made. this could save the company thousands.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Leaderofthepack316 on 11-02-18, 07:48AM
If everyone on here who out their pathetic opinion forward actually concentrated on loving the brand, doing a excellent job everyday and we're happy that they actually has a job... Tesco shares would go up and would be in a stronger market position.
But as long as the same old rubbish exists like, its not my job, not my dept, find a manager for a simple issue, I'm on my break, nights vs says..... Etc whinging moan..... It's will never increase by much..
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: lucgeo on 11-02-18, 09:14AM
Try telling that to the PM's , CM's and CEM's who have LOVED the brand, doing their job everyday, even conveying the lying spin on the wage rise etc....because it was expected of them...taking the flak on behalf of their seniors etc....are they now being made redundant because they are pathetic ???

I am grateful for my job sir....(doff my cap) I will forgo my break sir...(low courtesy) all so my superiors can reap the benefits, get bigger bonus' on the broken back of the minions :(
My god....the jarrow marchers must be turning in their graves listening to the c**p you just spouted :-X :-X
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: laughinggravy on 11-02-18, 10:56AM
Well said Lucgeo
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: lackofinterest on 11-02-18, 11:36AM
 
Try telling that to the PM's , CM's and CEM's who have LOVED the brand, doing their job everyday, even conveying the lying spin on the wage rise etc....because it was expected of them...taking the flak on behalf of their seniors etc....are they now being made redundant because they are pathetic ???

I am grateful for my job sir....(doff my cap) I will forgo my break sir...(low courtesy) all so my superiors can reap the benefits, get bigger bonus' on the broken back of the minions :(
My god....the jarrow marchers must be turning in their graves listening to the c**p you just spouted :-X :-X
couldnt have put it better myself :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: stockrotateman on 11-02-18, 11:39AM
 :thumbup: well said.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: lackofinterest on 11-02-18, 11:39AM
If everyone on here who out their pathetic opinion forward actually concentrated on loving the brand, doing a excellent job everyday and we're happy that they actually has a job... Tesco shares would go up and would be in a stronger market position.
But as long as the same old rubbish exists like, its not my job, not my dept, find a manager for a simple issue, I'm on my break, nights vs says..... Etc whinging moan..... It's will never increase by much..
you're lucky we don't work to rule (not only when theres a health and safety auditor in) or the company would fold!!!
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Jammin joe on 15-02-18, 08:15AM
Can anyone tell me when the 3 year saye will be available. Is it early Feb or March? Thanks.

Hi all, should we of received a letter for the 3 year SAYE maturity to tell us what our options are etc? Has anyone else received theirs?
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: StinkyPoo on 15-02-18, 09:52AM
I had an email, mine finishes 3 March :)
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Welshie on 15-02-18, 03:39PM
Got an email on Saturday but other staff haven't heard anything yet .
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Setmefree on 15-02-18, 04:39PM
Can anyone tell me if I leave the company before my shares mature in will I lose my shares
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: notsofunny on 15-02-18, 06:08PM

if you leave ,, then yes , look at last years statement , it should have your cut off dates ,,
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Setmefree on 15-02-18, 06:14PM
Thanks for your reply
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Jammin joe on 16-02-18, 08:40AM
I had an email, mine finishes 3 March :)

Thanks! Found it in my junk mail for some reason!  :D
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: bluewhiteman on 16-02-18, 09:27AM
Well said. How damn true. Ignore the quote from someone who has Tesco in ten like seaside rock.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Weed on 16-02-18, 10:42AM
If everyone on here who out their pathetic opinion forward actually concentrated on loving the brand, doing a excellent job everyday and we're happy that they actually has a job... Tesco shares would go up and would be in a stronger market position.
But as long as the same old rubbish exists like, its not my job, not my dept, find a manager for a simple issue, I'm on my break, nights vs says..... Etc whinging moan..... It's will never increase by much..

Says he who does all the above

Brown Nose^

Administrator Comment I think we are by now aware of your opinion, which actually breaks the rules of VLH. You do not need to go back 5 days to find a post so that you can post it again. Please desist.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Weed on 16-02-18, 11:16AM
Are the rules of this forum not to respect peoples views and opinions. I am doing so by giving Leaderofthepack his true title. Thank you for your time and patience surrounding this matter.

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Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: lackofinterest on 16-02-18, 05:07PM
 :D :D
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: OvaSees on 16-02-18, 06:25PM
If everyone on here who out their pathetic opinion forward actually concentrated on loving the brand, doing a excellent job everyday and we're happy that they actually has a job... Tesco shares would go up and would be in a stronger market position.
Over 250,000 colleagues spent more than 10 years doing that and all it resulted in was job losses, redundancies, restructures, store closures, asset disposals, pensions scheme closures, share price falls, sale of international businesses, acquisition reversal, payment erosions, the largest loss in British corporate history...

This is a corporate pattern that has continually repeated itself numerous times in the last 15 years. Has it never occurred to you that the fate of the many in such environments is determined not by their behaviour but by the behaviour of those who claim to 'lead' them? 'Loving the brand' at Woolworths didn't keep people in jobs and neither did the undying commitment to that brand by its employees, many of whom worked hard right up until the last store closed its doors. If you want to know why companies get into a mess, you should be looking top-down not bottom-up.

Tesco in particular is exposed to this since it is intentionally structured in such a way that there is not one single action that one single employee in a store could take that would affect the share price in any way.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Equalizer87 on 16-02-18, 07:08PM
If everyone on here who out their pathetic opinion forward actually concentrated on loving the brand, doing a excellent job everyday and we're happy that they actually has a job... Tesco shares would go up and would be in a stronger market position.
But as long as the same old rubbish exists like, its not my job, not my dept, find a manager for a simple issue, I'm on my break, nights vs says..... Etc whinging moan..... It's will never increase by much..

The first of DL's  new soldiers has been let loose.

Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Leaderofthepack316 on 17-02-18, 06:45PM
Lol freedom of speech except on very little helps
I'm not offending anyone but have a great life because of tesco and do do you.
If you all want to work somewhere else please leave.
Simple

Also moderate that!!!
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Equalizer87 on 17-02-18, 06:55PM
Hmmm and calling someone "pathetic" or a "simpleton" isnt offending anyone??

I wonder who the simpleton really is.



Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: mexicopete on 17-02-18, 07:31PM
@Equalizer87 he's defo senior team material. Thick as pig sh*t and a bully to boot, A perfect fit methinks. :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Equalizer87 on 17-02-18, 07:33PM
@ Mexicopete

A dead cert I agree, probably insecure in the knowledge his job will be next, and lashing out in frustration. :D :D
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: mexicopete on 17-02-18, 07:38PM
We can only hope mate, what a Troll he is. He should apply for the admin. role as his punctuation, spelling etc. is c*ck on. ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Equalizer87 on 17-02-18, 08:50PM
 :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

In reality, a shrinking violet.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: lucgeo on 17-02-18, 09:21PM
Lol freedom of speech except on very little helps
I'm not offending anyone but have a great life because of tesco and do do you.
If you all want to work somewhere else please leave.
Simple

Also moderate that!!!

Such a great life....posting on here on a Saturday evening?? No party invite?? No mates night out?? SADDO!! Me?? I'm an old un! Been there, done that, burnt candle at both ends and amazed I've lived past 50!!

Enjoy your little bubble of make believe....the rest of us are with friends and family  ;)
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: TheViking on 18-02-18, 05:31AM
Lol freedom of speech except on very little helps
I'm not offending anyone but have a great life because of tesco and do do you.
If you all want to work somewhere else please leave.
Simple

Also moderate that!!!



So Drastic Dave, you found us!!! 🤖
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: formerscoboy on 18-02-18, 09:31AM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: OvaSees on 18-02-18, 10:10AM
Lol freedom of speech except on very little helps
I'm not offending anyone but have a great life because of tesco and do do you.
If you all want to work somewhere else please leave.
Simple

Also moderate that!!!
Probably sat in the canteen typing that... busy much?

Fact check for you - Freedom of speech is an American concept built into their constitution, the British equivalent is Freedom of Expresion of which this forum is a good example and so is the fact that despite your statement your post wasn't moderated.

I'm not offended by you I just think you're hilarious - after all you have the same choices we do and those include whether or not to leave the company and whether or not to read and post here ;)
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Noyouwont on 11-04-18, 07:15PM
Hello.
Don't know if anyone can help.
I recently sold some shares.
I phoned equiniti and sold some over the phone.

They have sent me a form to sign and sent an envelope to put my share certificate in.

Obviously the share price has shot up.
Can I cancel the sale??
I have received the form but I am yet to sent if off.

What would happen if I just don't send it.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: GreenGrocer on 11-04-18, 07:55PM
Lol freedom of speech except on very little helps
I'm not offending anyone but have a great life because of tesco and do do you.
If you all want to work somewhere else please leave.
Simple

Also moderate that!!!

Sounds like one of the pathetic TMs who is all spout until he get one sick call then all of a sudden he doesn't know what to do so he just f***s off into the office nowhere to be seen for hours. Life is so great my hands are riddled with arthritis, backs aching and knees worn not even attempting to do what you consider the role of 1 GA all for min pay may I add. But great I have a few hundred quid. Start making an effort to keep staff. So much time and money is being wasted in recruitment.



Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: notsofunny on 11-04-18, 10:00PM
Hello.
Don't know if anyone can help.
I recently sold some shares.
I phoned equiniti and sold some over the phone.

They have sent me a form to sign and sent an envelope to put my share certificate in.

Obviously the share price has shot up.
Can I cancel the sale??
I have received the form but I am yet to sent if off.

What would happen if I just don't send it.

Regardless of if you can back out or not , It just goes to show that its not just the banks that can be called Greedy    :(
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Nomad on 12-04-18, 10:38AM
If the signed form and share certificate are necessary for the sale (otherwise why send them to you) how could they sell the shares with out those documents.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: GreenGrocer on 12-04-18, 12:24PM
Take the money and run.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: notsofunny on 12-04-18, 08:36PM
If the signed form and share certificate are necessary for the sale (otherwise why send them to you) how could they sell the shares with out those documents.

Not every one holds share certificates , also you can sell them if you are Registerd with them , and even when you are not you can sell if you make payments from a debit card linked to your name and account , i remember i did this some times back with my sons help since i could not understand how it all worked , the paper work is just sent to tie things up , but not sent to you if you do it on line ,
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Post by: Nomad on 12-04-18, 08:51PM
Thank you for that info.
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Post by: notsofunny on 25-04-18, 07:58PM
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Post by: lordadmiral on 26-04-18, 01:30AM
I hold mine as i want dividend. Im taking shares again not cash. Im in similar situation if it comes to price, range is from 1.4 to 4.5.
 I got Excel file where i can easly see how much i lost or gained depending from current price. If i cash all shares i will be better off compared with taking cash at the day of award/ purchase.
If i want to sell individual , most expensive shares then the lowest price must be 2.72 so i wont loose a penny.
3,12 is average price of all shares i hold. Not many, 5k witch give me 50 pound for every penny from dividend. First 2000 is tax free.

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Post by: cityboy on 26-04-18, 03:47AM
lordadmiral, well done on knowing your stuff about the advantage of shares, it's over my head! I/ve gone the other way, getting rid of all my shares, no S,A.Y.E. or B.A.Y.E., just putting what money I can save into my pension.
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Post by: Totot on 26-04-18, 08:32AM
Choose cash rather than share. Dont want to participate with tesco extra share inflation.
For me, bonus is supposed to be cash, if i want to invest my money, i will invest it somewhere else. If i want to invest or play stock, tesco share would never get my attention, as a long term investment or a quick stock play.
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Post by: GreenGrocer on 26-04-18, 10:59AM
Take the money and run
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Post by: lordadmiral on 26-04-18, 06:44PM
I am trying to think about finance in way that give me better future. If someone need cash asap then it cash. Shares are for those who can hold them for many years.
I must say that its shame that tesco f***ed up with money few years ago. If i had 10p dividend in 2015 and 2016 i would be better off by 1000 pounds:).
Money makes money. If i do remember right my investment in shares was about 8k gross. Today is worth nearly 12k. With income of 500 pound a year from divident would give lovely 6,25% return and go on ... today in 2018 i could have nearly 6k shares witch would give me even greater return so even drop in price to 1,5 pound would mean that i would bemaking money.
But as i said its long process.
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Post by: his scots tie on 26-04-18, 10:38PM
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Post by: grim up north on 27-04-18, 10:45AM
Some aren't though... It's a risk, whichever way you go. Depends on how much certainty you want.
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Post by: GreenGrocer on 27-04-18, 10:52AM
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Post by: notsofunny on 30-04-18, 03:37PM
Choose cash rather than share. Dont want to participate with tesco extra share inflation.
For me, bonus is supposed to be cash, if i want to invest my money, i will invest it somewhere else. If i want to invest or play stock, tesco share would never get my attention, as a long term investment or a quick stock play.

They are paying you in cash , But are allowing you to buy shares if you want , that is for you to decided  8-)
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Post by: notsofunny on 30-04-18, 03:56PM
I hold mine as i want dividend. Im taking shares again not cash. Im in similar situation if it comes to price, range is from 1.4 to 4.5.
 I got Excel file where i can easly see how much i lost or gained depending from current price. If i cash all shares i will be better off compared with taking cash at the day of award/ purchase.
If i want to sell individual , most expensive shares then the lowest price must be 2.72 so i wont loose a penny.
3,12 is average price of all shares i hold. Not many, 5k witch give me 50 pound for every penny from dividend. First 2000 is tax free.
Wow,, I understood most of that , But surprised at how you do it all .. I just got them over the years and forgot to keep a eye on them when the price went down and the divi came to a end , With divi starting up again as well as the price rise of the shares I was split between cashing them in and paying off a large slice of my morgage or staying with the divi payout every year ,
Now after deciding to keep them I am again wondering how much a Asda/Sainsbury tie up will effect share price as well as divi payments  ???
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Post by: lordadmiral on 30-04-18, 09:27PM
Its hard to say what future bring to us. As long share price go up to 3.20 and tesco will pay 5p or more in dividend then we should be fine.
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Post by: EscapedTheAsylum on 26-06-18, 04:51AM
I'm sorry to take this thread on a bit of a tangent, but really need some advice.  I've been trying to access my sharesave account as I still have a number of shares to cash in.  However, as I've got older, I can no longer remember my employee number to be able to log into my account.  Despite many attempts to contact Tesco, I get no reply.  Would anyone be able to provide advice on who I should contact.  The other issue I also have is that I have emigrated from the UK and need to know if I can have payments made into a Spanish bank account?  Thanks in advance for any help
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Post by: lordadmiral on 26-06-18, 01:49PM
https://equiniti.com/uk/contact-us/shareholder-enquiries/ (https://equiniti.com/uk/contact-us/shareholder-enquiries/)
Please contact helpline they might help you out. If all goes good then yes you can receive your payment into foreign account. Charges apply.

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Post by: Scruff on 09-07-18, 04:45PM
I've still got hold of mine, can't decide if i should sell now or not
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Post by: angrybeaver on 27-07-18, 02:05PM
Sent instruction to sell prior to resigning, assume although I won't be employed by them in 4 weeks time I would still recieve all proceeds that won't be paid via BACS from the company with my final owed pay etc etc?
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Post by: Welshie on 27-07-18, 05:31PM
Any shares sold that are not subject to tax/NI , proceeds paid directly into same bank account that your pay goes into, after that it should be put through bacs.
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Post by: angrybeaver on 27-07-18, 07:51PM
Cheers will expect a nice little bonus next month then without having to set foot in store as an employee ever again!
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Post by: fatboy on 15-08-18, 04:13PM
What's going on with the share price this week!!!???
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Post by: GreenGrocer on 15-08-18, 05:22PM
When the company is about to announce its half yearly figures the price will always go haywire. On top of this Bill is leaving from the board. More experience gone.
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Post by: fatboy on 15-08-18, 05:28PM
When are the half year results announced?
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Post by: lordadmiral on 15-08-18, 06:59PM
https://www.tescoplc.com/investors/financial-calendar/ (https://www.tescoplc.com/investors/financial-calendar/)
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Post by: fatboy on 15-08-18, 07:00PM
Then it's prob not that that's sent the share price plummeting.
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Post by: lordadmiral on 15-08-18, 07:02PM
Possible, its chaos with stock levels.
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Post by: GreenGrocer on 15-08-18, 07:12PM
Stock levels are messed up because they try to get people to do too much, deliveries are always late and facings are being cut back...
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Post by: AmberWolf on 15-08-18, 09:00PM
The share dive is due to the Tesco employee's selling their shares to make up for the shortfall in their wages.
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Post by: GreenGrocer on 15-08-18, 09:20PM
amberwolf.  :thumbup: no doubt
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Post by: lackofinterest on 16-08-18, 12:52AM
i'd say sell all your shares asap. there's only one way this shambles of a company is going and it rhymes with clown!! >:D
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Post by: GreenGrocer on 29-08-18, 11:51AM
What is going on with the share price today?
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Post by: fatboy on 29-08-18, 12:27PM
I was wondering the same. Climbed quite a bit yesterday then plunged again today!!
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Post by: notsofunny on 29-08-18, 07:33PM
Possible, its chaos with stock levels.

What stock levels  ??? All express stores have  about 7 cages stock in the back and every metro or main store I have been into has less back stock than ever with availability at high levels in the store , and to those that say that the w/house is full with more stock coming in all the time and that is not getting worked as well , then is that stock sitting in the backyards  8-)
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Post by: notsofunny on 29-08-18, 07:36PM
i'd say sell all your shares asap. there's only one way this shambles of a company is going and it rhymes with clown!! >:D

Well thats what I was told when the share price went down to 150 pence , so since you think we should all do that can you explain why ? it would help those that have been holding on ,
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Post by: notsofunny on 29-08-18, 07:38PM
The share dive is due to the Tesco employee's selling their shares to make up for the shortfall in their wages.

Are you saying that Tesco staff hold that many shares that it effects the price going up or down  8-) Wow tesco staff must be super rich to be able to do that  :P wonder why i dont have that many  :question:
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Post by: notsofunny on 29-08-18, 07:40PM
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Post by: lordadmiral on 29-08-18, 09:28PM
Possible, its chaos with stock levels.

What stock levels  ??? All express stores have  about 7 cages stock in the back and every metro or main store I have been into has less back stock than ever with availability at high levels in the store , and to those that say that the w/house is full with more stock coming in all the time and that is not getting worked as well , then is that stock sitting in the backyards  8-)

I mean that we have huge shortage of goods. No fizzy drinks, juice, dairy, produce. We getting some bulk s*** to compensate shortage but it doesnt work.
Tell me how can you fill produce if entire delivery is a dozen dollys over 3 nights (3 aisles). 
1/3 of drinks is empty. Thats 10 mods with nothing or rammed with water so it doesnt look so bad but how much water can we sell?
Sales is down, badly. Up to 40 k a day.
Then something oposite. I counted 38 backstock cages in our freezer last week and delivery on top of that.
And no one to work it.
At the end of June i had 12 cages of sweets, 2 cages per mod. Madness.



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Post by: lordadmiral on 29-08-18, 09:37PM
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Post by: notsofunny on 30-08-18, 02:50AM


 i was replying to someone that said the share price was droiping due to Tesco staff selling shares ,


any ideas on how many tesco shares are traded daily ? or how many shares tesco staff trade ?
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Post by: GreenGrocer on 30-08-18, 08:18AM
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Post by: notsofunny on 30-08-18, 02:05PM
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Post by: lordadmiral on 30-08-18, 09:26PM


 i was replying to someone that said the share price was droiping due to Tesco staff selling shares ,


any ideas on how many tesco shares are traded daily ? or how many shares tesco staff trade ?

https://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/prices-and-markets/stocks/exchange-insight/trade-data.html?fourWayKey=GB0008847096GBGBXSET1 (https://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/prices-and-markets/stocks/exchange-insight/trade-data.html?fourWayKey=GB0008847096GBGBXSET1)
Here is chart about volume. " Who " is buying/selling that's  a whole different story.

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.tescoplc.com/media/392367/tesco_ar17_shareholder-information.pdf&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjl4pT2zZXdAhUMCsAKHQ52DQUQFggUMAI&usg=AOvVaw2ssS1vaJanW9BJhl5dQv6q (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.tescoplc.com/media/392367/tesco_ar17_shareholder-information.pdf&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjl4pT2zZXdAhUMCsAKHQ52DQUQFggUMAI&usg=AOvVaw2ssS1vaJanW9BJhl5dQv6q)

 Its 1 yr old pdf but u can see that staff hold over 100m shares/ over 1%.
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Post by: bugsbunny on 31-08-18, 02:38PM
What is going on with the share price why has it dropped so much?
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Post by: notsofunny on 31-08-18, 07:48PM


 i was replying to someone that said the share price was droiping due to Tesco staff selling shares ,


any ideas on how many tesco shares are traded daily ? or how many shares tesco staff trade ?

https://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/prices-and-markets/stocks/exchange-insight/trade-data.html?fourWayKey=GB0008847096GBGBXSET1 (https://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/prices-and-markets/stocks/exchange-insight/trade-data.html?fourWayKey=GB0008847096GBGBXSET1)
Here is chart about volume. " Who " is buying/selling that's  a whole different story.

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.tescoplc.com/media/392367/tesco_ar17_shareholder-information.pdf&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjl4pT2zZXdAhUMCsAKHQ52DQUQFggUMAI&usg=AOvVaw2ssS1vaJanW9BJhl5dQv6q (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.tescoplc.com/media/392367/tesco_ar17_shareholder-information.pdf&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjl4pT2zZXdAhUMCsAKHQ52DQUQFggUMAI&usg=AOvVaw2ssS1vaJanW9BJhl5dQv6q)

 Its 1 yr old pdf but u can see that staff hold over 100m shares/ over 1%.

Thanks for looking that up  :thumbup:

Still cant see how tesco staff could effect the share price  ??? since i think it was said that Staff selling them had pushed down the price   8-) , And i cant see Tesco staff all trading  out last week   ,   it would be good to see how many shares are still held by Staff , since all the Staff reductions in the Managment side from last year ,  Just read that total tesco share issue is 9,790.16 million.
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Post by: notsofunny on 31-08-18, 08:09PM
What is going on with the share price why has it dropped so much?

Have a look at other retail share prices to see if they have fallen , then look at the stock market to see how that has been doing , this could help you or it could not  ;D
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Post by: notsofunny on 02-09-18, 07:12PM
This is NOT the 'what do you think of GreenGrocer' thread.

I would think what I asked does, especialy when the said person has if I am correct  said how badly stores are doing and how badly management and above them are running the place , after all if I was to invest in a company then say that they are going down hill , and the subject is buy or sell shares would others not want to ask why I was investing in them ?

Administrator Comment Nope
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Post by: notsofunny on 03-09-18, 02:44AM
This is NOT the 'what do you think of GreenGrocer' thread.

I would think what I asked does, especialy when the said person has if I am correct  said how badly stores are doing and how badly management and above them are running the place , after all if I was to invest in a company then say that they are going down hill , and the subject is buy or sell shares would others not want to ask why I was investing in them ?

Nope

So you are saying the topic is not around ( buy or sell) ?

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Post by: lordadmiral on 11-09-18, 07:37PM
Oho shares heavy down within last few days. Look like big sell out. people are preparing for octobers half yr results. My 6th sense tells me we can expect some bad/ mix news.
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Post by: notsofunny on 11-09-18, 08:32PM


How is the stock market doing ? is it up or down over the same period ?

Also how are the othe retailers shares doing ? are they up or down ?
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Post by: lordadmiral on 11-09-18, 09:02PM
Tesco shares were 176p in Nov 2017 so I could understand big sell off to make nice profit now.
Other retailers are OK, normal trade no big moves up or down.
So that big drop 40p over 4 week time is very surprising.
Maybe it;s because of "Jack's",  new Tesco discounter. Investors might think that it will be disaster.
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Post by: notsofunny on 11-09-18, 09:23PM
Tesco shares are down 30p over 1 month,  Sainsbury's are down about 25p down over same time scale But less % wise based on share value.

Morrison is down a few pence over same time and is doing rather well from what I can see.

Does seem a let down especially since I have been seeing the price rise over the last year.
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Post by: 1 on 12-09-18, 08:14AM
There will be some unknown how things will go with the launch of the discounter in the next week. Previous executives tried the discount model before but were meant to have pulled out of it over fears it could undermine the main brand. With the rise of Lidl and Aldi they have been forced to give up market share or try to retain it through Jacks. Amazon are the shares to invest in nowadays.
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Post by: lordadmiral on 12-09-18, 10:57AM
Tesco shares are down 30p over 1 month,  Sainsbury's are down about 25p down over same time scale But less % wise based on share value.

Morrison is down a few pence over same time and is doing rather well from what I can see.

Does seem a let down especially since I have been seeing the price rise over the last year.
My bad, your right it was 30p not 40p, for tesco :D
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Post by: OpShunned on 12-09-18, 10:37PM
sorry to reprise but JACK'S infuriates me  8-)


.Sunday, 20th of July 2014

Picture the scene, we're two days away from Phil Clarke's '40th year at Tesco' party due to be staged on Tuesday, 22nd of July. The balloons have already been inflated and the trimmings festoon a richly laden boardroom. Lying in bed, wondering what he will receive for his milestone anniversary, Phil closes his eyes only to find that he can see the immortal line 'Et tu, Brute' daubed on the inside of his eyelids. There's a dark, ominously looking figure stood at the other side of the Rubicon. What does this mean? Phil gently  drifts off to sleep, confident that life begins at forty.

...It's Monday, 21st of July.

In walks big Phil, only to be greeted with frowns from his colleagues. 'Phil, the party is off', they utter in unison (or USDAW perhaps). The balloons deflate, the trimmings turn a dull shade of grey and Phil knows something is wrong today. 'We want you to hand in your notice Phil. The shareholders have had enough and we need you to fall on your sword for the good of the company'. Dejected, Phil reluctantly agrees to their demands and leaves the office to the strains of It's my party and I'll cry if I want to. His former colleagues reach for their Huxlian style pamphlet, they turn to page one and see the words, 'Welcome to Dave's Brave New world'.

...Meanwhile, and in a parallel universe.

********has expressed, on another thread, his disillusion with the Company's current course. It may well be that he has voiced thoughts that others may harbour.

It could be easy to believe that the Company is doing very well thank you and that all in the garden is rosy given that we at the call centres have undergone incredible expansion and continue to create more and more posts. If you never watched the news or read a newspaper you would be blissfully unaware that Tesco is losing its share of the retail market whilst some of our competitors experience stunning growth and exponential profit gain. Having said that, our purpose is to remain positive throughout these testing times and to continue to do what we do well. We have no direct influence on our share price, but what we do have is a direct influence on maintaining the belief that our customers can contact us when required, in order that we might listen to and also learn from their needs.

I tend to agree with ***** (*****to his bank manager) that while the modernisation of our larger stores looks good, it may prove ultimately fruitless if our customer's patronage continues to drop. You could do your living room out to Queen Elizabeth  II standards but if no-one visits, what's the point of going to those lengths. Aldi and Lidl have seen revenue leap 32% and 20% year-on-year during the 12 weeks ending 20 July, despite there being nothing swanky about their gaffs. Is there something novel that they are doing right and we are doing wrong?

In a recent presentation Phil Clarke ('moneybags' to his gleeful hand-rubbing bank manager) posited that our much heralded Hudl 2 and also the eagerly awaited Hudl phone are things that our discounter competitors will be unable to match. Sorry Phils, our competitors are offering, and will exploit to the maximum their pledge to provide food prices at a level which are proving irresistible.

Many employees, especially public sector workers, have endured several years of pay freezes or minimal pay rises which haven't kept pace with the cost of living. Visits to food banks have doubled in no time at all and many of these people are working folk who have found that their monthly wage doesn't stretch to the end of the month. When your food cupboard is empty, you can't carve up a gadget to feed your loved ones! Jack Cohen must be spinning the beads on his abacus in dismay.

Our tv adverts boast that 'the more you spend, the more you save'. Aldi's and Lidl's adverts ( tell me that the less I spend week to week the more I will save in the short term. It's one thing to have savings on your fuel to glean but if you have less money to spend on food where's the benefit? I believe that Clarke's master plan for recovery has fallen into disarray because of his failure to recognise that it coincided with a period of austerity and that he could win back customers with gadgets and gimmicks. The discounters have made hay while the sun has dimmed on Clarke's vision of sustainable recovery.. Terry Leahy (the CEO of B&M Stores) is part of the discounter revolution. Consumers are targeting those retail outlets that offer them lower and lower prices and are quite prepared to forego any gimmicks in the process. No longer is it prudent to adopt 'shopping snobbery' and avoid discounter stores. Just take a look at the Mercs and BMWs parked in the car park at the top of our road.

Cometh the hour, cometh the man (we hope). Dave Lewis, the man who put love back into Dove (soap that is). No retail experience (maybe that's why the share price has dropped Gazz! despite a knight in shining armour turning up) but maybe that's a good thing. We'll hang our hat on the hope that he will take a fresh look at our empire and bring the progressive changes that our stakeholders are patently hankering for. Did Warren Buffet bail out when he saw the tea leaves settle in an ominous fashion at the bottom of his bone china teacup? Dave runs marathons as a hobby (Phil was red hot with a spring-loaded spice rack, some of you may remember the cringebone-tingling video).

'Drastic Dave's' (google it if you must) initial quandary is how to counteract the proliferation of the discounter stores that threaten to suffocate any growth that we crave, and reassure our shareholders (that's us as well) that we can deliver a world class journey for both our customers and us at the centres. If Dave is the Louis Van Gall of Tesco United, that replaces the tepid David Moyes of Tesco Ununited, he will surely try to neutralise the potency of his 'noisy-neighbours'.
Short term, I believe that we need to look hard at our Clubcard scheme. I'm not convinced that loyalty is gained by offering such schemes in a modern and aggressive retail environment, or at least in a period of financial austerity. Either we overhaul it by scrapping it completely (therein save us upwards of half a billion a year to run it) and plough the revenue into price reductions that entice customers back to the brand that they formerly embraced; or, we offer 'double points' (albeit knee-jerked) as an incentive to shop with us on a regular, and sustained basis to get a shorter term benefit upon redemption (let's tempt them back if we have to?). The current format, in my opinion at least, has become staid, unenterprising, not fit for purpose, and of no real attraction in an ever changing retail landscape. Ask your colleagues around you whether they shop exclusively to get the resultant points? Then ask them whether they use our competitors? And finally, if they do, why?
If you've bumped your gums along this far (fair play) don't think it's all doom and gloom. Talking to our customers on a daily basis is not only enjoyable and informative, but necessary, and will act as a means of reassuring us that we can make a positive difference to our customer's journey. Anyone who has received positive feedback from a customer will testify to the fact that it reinforces the purpose of your well-oiled cog in a big wheel.

It's not all about share price. It's all about people. It's all about listening to people. It's all about listening to the customers who are our people. Hopefully, Dave will listen to the voice of his people.

There really was a party planned, and yes, it was cancelled.


Ps,

'Jacks' in my opinion is an absolute joke of a non-concept. In my humble opinion it epitomises a knee jerk reaction that has pervaded the Tesco boardroom while they punch each other in search of embryonic longevity.

Dave Lewis is a joke  :) :) :)
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Post by: OvaSees on 13-09-18, 02:35PM
Our tv adverts boast that 'the more you spend, the more you save'
Which further underlines how out of touch Tesco is - the retailer that also claims to know it's customers better than anyone else - as it still can't comprehend the fact that nobody has more to spend, hence why they are flocking to the discounters. As one of the country's largest private sector employers that has overseen redundancies in the tens of thousands, continues to erode overall packages for its employees and offers only piecemeal low-hour and flexi contracts you would think it would realise this, being at the centre of it.

'Jacks' in my opinion is an absolute joke of a non-concept. In my humble opinion it epitomises a knee jerk reaction that has pervaded the Tesco boardroom while they punch each other in search of embryonic longevity.
Truth. The biggest problem with this whole venture is that it's still Tesco, rather akin to the fake farms - Tesco still pretends that Rosedene Farm is some sort of local producer. Give it time, probably when it is thought to have done its job of reversing market share going to discounters, and it will morph back into normal Tesco gradually through introduction of own label and eventually the name. Nobody outside Tesco who shops at a discounter doesn't even know who the heck 'Jack' is and neither do they care, nor would I guess does anyone inside Tesco with less than 5 or 10 years' service. It's a short sacrifice to win customers back.

If Tesco wanted to seriously compete with the discounters it could do so as, you know, Tesco - the name that was built on the principle of being the consumers champion. It would just need to listen to customers, lower its prices, get rid of all the gimmicky nonsense such as self serve tills (which you don't find at discounters) and improve service instead of farting around with grandoise costly schemes, a bit like it always did before its corporate arrogance took over around 20 years ago, and even more like it did when the real Jack ran the business. The concept of the scheme itself is proof that after nearly a decade Tesco finally recognises that the discounters are credible competitors eating its market share and that it needs to respond, and also that nothing it is doing is working. But this is not innovation it's emulation - it's a case of 'if you can't beat them join them' and thus an admission that we've been ripping customers off for years.

To compete with discounters does not need another brand, another name, another shop on the street. It needs lower prices. But this is today's Tesco - when simplicity is all that's required you can bet for sure that the most overly complex, costly solution will be found. If Jack were still alive, he'd walk into Aldi or Lidl and think they were his legacy as they more closely resemble the principles he built the company on whilst wondering what the hell Tesco is doing. Tesco and its leaders have lost all retail acumen and obsess too much over complexities for this to succeed in the long to medium term.

I'd hate to be in one of those Jacks stores - the expectation and pressure for them to deliver will be unmanageable and it will be those poor store teams who take the blame when it doesn't live up. This will backfire - if Jacks is seen as a 'discounter' then that means Tesco will be thus be seen as 'the expensive alternative side to the brand'. You can market, spin and dress this up however you wish but its still Tesco and that means the same blood flows through it, the same profit-centric blood that sees customers as an inconvenient cog in the wheel of taking money. Customers are fatigued with all that fakery which is another factor in the decision to shop elsewhere.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Nomad on 13-09-18, 02:41PM
Much as I appreciate comments/opinions on the 'new' discounter stores (new topic anyone  :question:) this topic concerns shares.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: fargone on 13-09-18, 06:20PM
Got some spare cash? Then buy some Silver or Gold. Very cheap at the moment.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: 1 on 03-10-18, 02:37PM
 :thumbdown: They've plummeted again.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: T.C.1 on 03-10-18, 04:16PM
Cos the shareholders wanted to see more of a profit margin!!! Dave Lewis must have promised them the earth!!!
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: londoner83 on 03-10-18, 07:04PM
Thing is we are still making 4% margin. If it was any higher surely we would be accused of excess profits at a time food bank usage has increased
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: T.C.1 on 03-10-18, 08:21PM
True but all the business press today look at the figures and say there weaker then expected so who's driving there expiations and shareholders???
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: 1 on 16-10-18, 04:47PM
down again
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: barafear on 16-10-18, 05:17PM
weaker than expected growth figures.
Aldi powering ahead.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: mardy on 16-10-18, 06:10PM
intrigued to see what the option price will be Friday on this years SAYE
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: 1 on 16-10-18, 06:50PM
weaker than expected growth figures.
Aldi powering ahead.

You are right again
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Hammer10 on 16-10-18, 07:33PM
Needs to be at least 1.60 else not worth it.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: just curious on 16-10-18, 11:27PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Kipper11 on 17-10-18, 12:34PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: 1 on 17-10-18, 02:13PM
maybe it'll be 1.68 again this time
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Kipper11 on 19-10-18, 10:11AM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: hot_chick on 19-10-18, 01:05PM
I was expecting it to be a little lower than that to be honest.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: barafear on 19-10-18, 01:45PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: londoner83 on 20-10-18, 08:36PM
Take a long term view.

 In 5yrs once Brexit is resolved the share price should rise....
If it doesn't just cash in your savings.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: galictica on 03-12-18, 08:58PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Newmember2 on 12-12-18, 09:38PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: fatboy on 06-02-19, 07:22AM
Does anyone know when the proceeds from the 3yr SAYE will be paid into bank? I chose to sell mine straight away, it says the shares would be sold last Friday & the proceeds paid into salary account 2 days later. Still not received mine this morning. Anyone else got theirs?
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Welshie on 06-02-19, 08:17AM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: NightAndDay on 06-02-19, 09:20AM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: fatboy on 06-02-19, 11:58AM
Cheers welshie :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Nomad on 06-06-19, 10:35PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Shoestring on 12-10-19, 04:40PM
Hi, I can't find my info at this moment, so... If I join BAYE, can I opt out of it at any time or is there a minimum time period of how long buying instalments are deducted?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Shoestring on 12-10-19, 05:05PM
I already found the info I need. Thanks anyway.  :)
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Acer9487 on 12-10-19, 06:00PM
Hi, sorry to hijack this, but how do I make a post? I have a question to ask & I have no clue as to how I do it  ???
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: optout on 12-10-19, 06:56PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: fatboy on 18-10-19, 10:16AM
Any news on this years says option price?
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: hige on 18-10-19, 10:35AM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: fatboy on 18-10-19, 10:37AM
No. If you leave before the end of the scheme you will just get your money back that you have paid in.
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Fair play on 18-10-19, 01:36PM
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Ravvers on 18-10-19, 01:55PM
Saye option price is £2.19 - just wish I could do another one but Tesco made me redundant on the 28th :(
Title: Re: Tosco Shares - Buy or Sell? Well Hello Delores!!
Post by: Fair play on 18-10-19, 03:48PM
Me too I got kicked out in May but was so worth it 🤗