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Pay review 2023

Started by person7, 05-02-23, 02:55PM

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Hammer10

So the four days are made up of 10 and a half hours is that right.

5fdp

That was the hours suggested by HO

5fdp

Less 1.5hrs for breaks gives 9hrs each night times 4 equals 36hrs. Simple.

chris9997

Quote from: Just a number on 06-03-23, 02:29PMHi, I'm sure I read somewhere that if 50%+ of your contract hours are before midnight /after 6am then your employer can change your hours to anything they want between 6am to midnight. I've tried looking this up but can't see it now. Is this still the case, if anyone can provide a link it would be greatly appreciated.
I have read it on here last year I have seen it on the gov.uk web site but I can not locate it presently.
The reason I believe this is I have read it on the consultation notes on our Tesco, it was a question raised by usdaw relating to nights which has not been discussed / mentioned before except in the consult it was the following
Of the stores effected by night operation changes some stores will go from 7 nights to 5 nights fill ( this I think only effects Express.)
Usdaw asked if the fill nights removed cover over 50% of the contracted hours of individual staff can they take redundancy.
Answer will come back with answer in consult 3.

chris9997

The 50% is on the consult meeting 3
If a colleagues hours are effected less than 50% they may not be offered the redundancy, unless there is a good reason for it to be offered.

Simonlyckntract

Has anyone got any ideas on what is happening to team managers who are still in the business ? I had my end of year review and not sure what is happening to pay ? The Union tell me it's down to me and my manager to discuss he tells me it's the Union ? I pay my subs for years get letters from the union telling me they represent my pay rises and they don't but I stil pay union fees at the same cost as everyone else ? Who represents the managers for pay rises ?

Simonlyckntract

#306
Quote from: dilligaf on 03-03-23, 01:41AMYet again you all blame USDAW, stores gave up their right to vote etc many years ago, the staff are the union, but while we can blame someone, there will be no gains... The present increase in the current climate isn't bad, does anyone listen to the news, what are most folk being offered in % pay rises??

Its great to blame, but a lot harder to to take a stand....


What is the answer most of the people have left since this was done ?

TechSupporter

Quote from: Simonlyckntract on 07-03-23, 01:22PMHas anyone got any ideas on what is happening to team managers who are still in the business ? I had my end of year review and not sure what is happening to pay ? The Union tell me it's down to me and my manager to discuss he tells me it's the Union ? I pay my subs for years get letters from the union telling me they represent my pay rises and they don't but I stil pay union fees at the same cost as everyone else ? Who represents the managers for pay rises ?



Managers pay brief is in May in line with the usual pay timeline's with managers annual pay briefs. GAs pay increase talks were brought forward to January which is why they got an earlier pay increase.

Managers pay is deal with the SATA union reps although I can't remember seeing a SATA rep instore for years!

madness

Quote from: Simonlyckntract on 07-03-23, 01:22PMHas anyone got any ideas on what is happening to team managers who are still in the business ? I had my end of year review and not sure what is happening to pay ? The Union tell me it's down to me and my manager to discuss he tells me it's the Union ? I pay my subs for years get letters from the union telling me they represent my pay rises and they don't but I stil pay union fees at the same cost as everyone else ? Who represents the managers for pay rises ?
I can understand why GA's think they need to be in the union incase they are in a store with bad managers but why would a manager be in the union. They are clowns with no idea what they are doing.

Simonlyckntract

#309
Please do not quote immediately prior post(s).   Admin.

They are clowns with no idea what they are doing. Maybe you have a very blinkered view or feel you have been to feel negativity towards management as a manager who has been in the company a long time and was a union rep for many years feels a little frustrated by the way some of us have been treated clearly you have an issue with authority my question was with the lack of communication and lack of transparency Lao I relation to people who who voted there right away with Usdaw this was along time ago most of these people would have left by now surely there was a review stage put in when this was agreed ?

londoner83

I doubt its in anyone's interest to change the Partnership Agreement. Tesco benefit from the no strike deal and in return Usdaw benefit from being the only union recognised in stores and from reps being given time to recruit new members.

Members may well want to change it, but if u were head of Usdaw why change something that could dramatically reduce your source of income?

Loki

Quote from: Simonlyckntract on 07-03-23, 01:23PM
Quote from: dilligaf on 03-03-23, 01:41AMYet again you all blame USDAW, stores gave up their right to vote etc many years ago, the staff are the union, but while we can blame someone, there will be no gains... The present increase in the current climate isn't bad, does anyone listen to the news, what are most folk being offered in % pay rises??

Its great to blame, but a lot harder to to take a stand....


What is the answer most of the people have left since this was done ?

The fact that members "gave up" their right to vote nearly 25 years ago once again highlights how preposterous it is for any Trade Union to recommend it to the members to begin with. Their rationale at the time... low turn out when balloting on pay. So what happens now... literally a handful of people voting on behalf of every store member within the uk. The more you think about it the more contradictory it is.

Furthermore, to add insult to injury, Usdaw have campaigned to support protection for the "right to strike" for members of any union yet as a Union, Usdaw not only allowed AND supported our right to vote being taken away but also are against our right to vote to be reinstated. If this isn't the epitome of hypocrisy then god knows what is.

Someone on here stated that Tesco won't allow Usdaw members within stores to vote on pay. It's f**k all to do with the company and EVERYTHING to do with the Union. It's weak. It's embarrassing. It's exploitative.

When all else fails, madness is the emergency exit.

lackofinterest

Quote from: londoner83 on 08-03-23, 07:51AMI doubt its in anyone's interest to change the Partnership Agreement. Tesco benefit from the no strike deal and in return Usdaw benefit from being the only union recognised in stores and from reps being given time to recruit new members.

Members may well want to change it, but if u were head of Usdaw why change something that could dramatically reduce your source of income?
usdaw benefit from getting back handers for allowing tesco to have their own way


madness

#314
Back in the day ALDI paid 25-30% more for a ga over Tesco, ASDA, Sainsbury's etc.  But then you had to actually work.

5fdp

Madness your absolutely correct. 95% staff couldn't cope with a shift in these German supermarkets. We have had a few staff return with stories of woe. 

penguin

#316
Also Aldi and Lidl do not muck about when it comes to getting rid of people not making an effort unlike Tesco who make a right meal out of it via syp, in the German chains its a case of your manager telling you either shape up or your out tomorrow and its no idle threat.  I know a couple who went from Tesco to Aldi thinking it would be easy money and soon found out its nothing of the sort.
Do not let anyone tell you there is not a decent job and life beyond Tesco.

oldfashionedplayer

#317
I dunno a few of ours went to nearby Lidl's, one is in her 60's now, she said "it's so much better, it's like a close knit family, you all know each other, you get along and everything works, there's no headless chickens running it"


lordadmiral

Quote from: madness on 17-03-23, 06:23PMBack in the day ALDI paid 25-30% more for a ga over Tesco, ASDA, Sainsbury's etc.  But then you had to actually work.
Still do but they pay depends from years of service.

Today the 'entry' pay rate in retail is very similar no matters which company you choose.

But from conversation with people working for various retailers It feels like Tesco is now offering the worst pay package.

chris9997

if you dont mind hard work and you thrive on challenges then i dont see why working for one of the discounters should be an issue, and thousands do work for them without issue, the trouble with big T is we do appear to employ a fare share of slackers who think going to a rival whould be a doddle.
Also if you look at the likes of Waitrose the shops are clean fairly well stocked and most staff appear to be working MM inluded, all which appears to be lacking at the T.

Bobmay

Quote from: SAMCRO on 21-02-23, 04:56PMWhat does the role pack say in regards to what is expected of a shift leader?

My superstore has 4 shift leaders who appear to be quite expensive fillers. I know they are also key holders and open and close the store. £13.28 x 36.5hrs appears to be very generous.

13.30 is what I get for night work in express going to 14.30 soon and on saturdays 16.60.

Hammer10

Quote from: Bobmay on 20-03-23, 01:17PM
Quote from: SAMCRO on 21-02-23, 04:56PMWhat does the role pack say in regards to what is expected of a shift leader?

My superstore has 4 shift leaders who appear to be quite expensive fillers. I know they are also key holders and open and close the store. £13.28 x 36.5hrs appears to be very generous.

13.30 is what I get for night work in express going to 14.30 soon and on saturdays 16.60.
Also do duty for whole store ,manage check outs customer complaints make sure staff are in right place so any cages left get them done,to be honest there is so much more to the role that only a desperate person would want that job for so little money.

5fdp

Bobmay. No redundancy for you then.

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