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Pay review 2023

Started by person7, 05-02-23, 02:55PM

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person7

Just wondering if any official news about 2023 pay review yet?

There's rumours about it being £11 hour but also rumours Sunday premiums (especially for those like me who do them as overtime) will be scrapped.

Not heard anything official yet so wondering if anyone else has?

Be nice if we get £11.50 or even £12 as a round up number but I doubt that will ever happen!

Just making new thread for 2023 pay and asking because the wage talks were supposed to be in January and not heard anything if its happened or what the outcome is yet.

forrestgimp

expect a cut in any or all premiums but i would also expect it to be around the 11 quid mark.

dairyfresh

Seen on yammer it's on store planning guide for week 52

fatlad


Bobmay

Not only will Staff numbers will be cut but also  I expect premium to be cut

Voulezvous


barafear

how does one get access to yammer? Well particularly the yammer thread that includes such updates? Is it only for managers?

oldfashionedplayer

Quote from: Bobmay on 06-02-23, 10:28AMNot only will Staff numbers will be cut but also  I expect premium to be cut

Our union one told us that the current negotiation is £11 and no premium 😂.

They are trying to "justify" a higher rate of pay by saying they'll remove time and quarter for bank holidays / Sunday.

BritishRacingGreen

Quote from: Bobmay on 06-02-23, 10:28AMNot only will Staff numbers will be cut but also  I expect premium to be cut

My goodness... I bet you're fun at parties Bobmay 8-)

whatajoke2019

Quote from: barafear on 06-02-23, 01:53PMhow does one get access to yammer? Well particularly the yammer thread that includes such updates? Is it only for managers?


The planning guide is for all to see on Tesc0 Help and isn't just restricted to Management.

In terms of Yammer you'd have to call Helpdesk and get assigned a licence, think it stopped being automatic because of cost doling them out willy nilly.

person7

Think is I have yammer but never see any these updates I think I have a "half license" or something. Lots are "you don't have permission to view" all I can view is dead unused groups that's not been updated for 2 years 😂 🤣

NoSkimmedMilk

Quote from: BritishRacingGreen on 06-02-23, 03:12PM
Quote from: Bobmay on 06-02-23, 10:28AMNot only will Staff numbers will be cut but also  I expect premium to be cut

My goodness... I bet you're fun at parties Bobmay 8-)


🤣🤣🤣🤣

Cbatt566

Quote from: oldfashionedplayer on 06-02-23, 02:20PM
Quote from: Bobmay on 06-02-23, 10:28AMNot only will Staff numbers will be cut but also  I expect premium to be cut

Our union one told us that the current negotiation is £11 and no premium 😂.

They are trying to "justify" a higher rate of pay by saying they'll remove time and quarter for bank holidays / Sunday.

that would cut out contractual pay! There's no way they could get away with that... they'd have to pay protection for 2 years and then after that, if not before loose a whole load of people AGAIN!

Checkout Superstar

#13
The Sunday premium will be interesting because scrapping it for new starters is one thing. Scrapping it for those longer term colleagues who do overtime  is something else entirely.

Lets say Betty, Nancy and Jon all joined in 2009 and work on potential reductions/counts. Both Betty and Nancy are contracted Sundays while Jon isn't. Nancy goes off sick so Jon as one of the only people trained on stock control is expected to come in and do her shift. Exactly the same work load as Betty but Jon is getting paid less.

Can you imagine it?

It will be the same on checkouts, Joyce who has worked for Tesco 25 years but is  not contracted Sunday will not come in and be paid less for doing a Sunday than Lola who joined in 2022 is.

King1999

The expected to do her shift,I think they can expect what they want they are in for what they have set themselves up for.Thats what happens when you look at people as hours they start thinking like them.

Bobmay

Quote from: oldfashionedplayer on 06-02-23, 02:20PM
Quote from: Bobmay on 06-02-23, 10:28AMNot only will Staff numbers will be cut but also  I expect premium to be cut

Our union one told us that the current negotiation is £11 and no premium 😂.

They are trying to "justify" a higher rate of pay by saying they'll remove time and quarter for bank holidays / Sunday.

As I suspected.I get 15.60 an hour on saturdays and if it bank holiday on sunday I get paid right right 17.90 an hour.So ofcourse they will cut premium which is why I advise people who are offered redundancy take it and dont look back.

Bobmay

Quote from: Cbatt566 on 07-02-23, 09:45AM
Quote from: oldfashionedplayer on 06-02-23, 02:20PM
Quote from: Bobmay on 06-02-23, 10:28AMNot only will Staff numbers will be cut but also  I expect premium to be cut

Our union one told us that the current negotiation is £11 and no premium 😂.

They are trying to "justify" a higher rate of pay by saying they'll remove time and quarter for bank holidays / Sunday.

that would cut out contractual pay! There's no way they could get away with that... they'd have to pay protection for 2 years and then after that, if not before loose a whole load of people AGAIN!

They could get away with it.If you dont know tesco use to pay double pay for people who worked Saturdays and sundays overtime.Double pay for night shift.As I strongly believe they will cut premium which they give now.

Bobmay

Quote from: Checkout Superstar on 07-02-23, 09:50AMThe Sunday premium will be interesting because scrapping it for new starters is one thing. Scrapping it for those longer term colleagues who do overtime  is something else entirely.

Lets say Betty, Nancy and Jon all joined in 2009 and work on potential reductions/counts. Both Betty and Nancy are contracted Sundays while Jon isn't. Nancy goes off sick so Jon as one of the only people trained on stock control is expected to come in and do her shift. Exactly the same work load as Betty but Jon is getting paid less.

Can you imagine it?

It will be the same on checkouts, Joyce who has worked for Tesco 25 years but is  not contracted Sunday will not come in and be paid less for doing a Sunday than Lola who joined in 2022 is.

With the new contract and marketplace app that will no problem.With the new contract people will be working mutliple different departments and being trained in them. With the marketplace app in the future a person will be able to work overtime in multiple stores in their area if they want to. So let's say someone is on holiday or sick for example you can arrange overtime from a pool of workers. This will also be cost effective and tesco will not need to spend money on training and employing new people all the time.

King1999

#18
Not seen anyone trained in stock control and they are crying about shrink etc, as for the marketplace won't be using it, this company has funnily enough changed a lot of people's mindset to help or do extra.  If you need it then fair enough.  They don't spend any money on training by the way.

Checkout Superstar

#19
Yeah as far as I'm aware stock control won't be appearing on extra hours market except to those who are actually contracted to it as a primary.

If you are also in on job14 you are excempt from being placed on checkouts too during the call outs, so in essence USDAW need to be asking why Tesco aren't classing it as a special skill

Redshoes

Quote from: FruityLoopy on 07-02-23, 09:50AMThe Sunday premium will be interesting because scrapping it for new starters is one thing. Scrapping it for those longer term colleagues who do overtime  is something else entirely.

Lets say Betty, Nancy and Jon all joined in 2009 and work on potential reductions/counts. Both Betty and Nancy are contracted Sundays while Jon isn't. Nancy goes off sick so Jon as one of the only people trained on stock control is expected to come in and do her shift. Exactly the same work load as Betty but Jon is getting paid less.

Can you imagine it?

It will be the same on checkouts, Joyce who has worked for Tesco 25 years but is  not contracted Sunday will not come in and be paid less for doing a Sunday than Lola who joined in 2022 is.

We went through years of some being on double time on Sunday and others on time and a half.

Morris999

Quote from: FruityLoopy on 07-02-23, 12:09PMYeah as far as I'm aware stock control won't be appearing on extra hours market except to those who are actually contracted to it as a primary.

If you are also in on job14 you are excempt from being placed on checkouts too during the call outs, so in essence USDAW need to be asking why Tesco aren't classing it as a special skill

Unfortunately stock control is on extra hour's market place for those that are trained to do it just like PFS, grocery and checkouts.
As for job 14 colleagues they are not ring fenced in any way shape or form, so if needed they can spend their entire shift on checkouts!
Just because your store has decided to ring fence job 14 colleagues doesn't mean it's company policy!
Usdaw can ask for it to be a skills payment, but let's be honest here job 14 isn't difficult and is no way a specialist skill compared to other departments that also do not get the skills payment.

King1999

To be honest and fair to those doing job 14 they don't get enough hours or time to do it.

CaramelBunny

#23
Anyone mocking job14 colleagues needs to pipe down. Its not an easy job if the other routines in your store aren't followed and they are usually the first ones to get the blame when waste goes tits up.

Like said above, those colleagues don't have enough time to do the job expected, a job which I might add is a legal requirement by law..

Charlie Harper

#24
So....let's say the new rate is £11.00 but premium goes.

Someone who is on 36.5 hours a week (7.5 of those being on a Sunday) would currently be on £395.26 a week at today's rate (7.5hr x £12.87.5 = £96.56 + 29hr x £10.30 = 298.70)

On the 'New' rate (if it is indeed £11.00 without premium) then they'd be on £401.50 a week (36.5hr x £11.00)

So, as they'd be earning more than they were previously over the course of the week, does this then excuse Tesco of having to offer any protected pay for the loss in Sunday rate??


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