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DotCom Shift Change Trials

Started by helpme, 16-06-19, 05:29PM

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gomezz

I may have missed it but what about such shifts meaning you are legally only allowed to work one day then one or more days off before you can work again?
"The progress of the kart is more important than its direction"

madness

no that leaves 12 hours between shifts, which is legal.   

gomezz

That is true but you would still be working more than eleven hours in a rolling 24 hour period which is not legal.
"The progress of the kart is more important than its direction"

FarmerFred

Quote from: gomezz on 24-03-24, 09:42PMThat is true but you would still be working more than eleven hours in a rolling 24 hour period which is not legal.
Not sure that's correct, plenty of businesses run 12/12.

gomezz

#254
My apologies.  I got my mental arithmetic wrong and was applying the current rule of thumb that if you work an evening then you can only work the morning or afternoon of the next day not both (based on existng shift times).  Finishing at 9pm makes all the difference.
"The progress of the kart is more important than its direction"

madness

Quote from: gomezz on 24-03-24, 09:42PMThat is true but you would still be working more than eleven hours in a rolling 24 hour period which is not legal.
They are not counting lunch. so its 11 hours of pay in a 12 hour clocked in/out shift. Runs the whole thing very tight though.

sonic8610

And if someone breaks down towards the end of their shift in the middle of nowhere then that throws a spanner in the works.

madness

cant drive the next day. if recovery is needed youre not driving just working a longer shift.

sonic8610

Oh well, I'm sure some announcement will be coming soon enough.

Murphy01

Does anyone have a copy of the shift patterns

madness

8-20 and 9-21 in our store.
Dont know about the others.
thats from a usual  8-18     and 18-22 a different driver
and a               9-19     and 19-23 a different driver

Usually its full timers on the day shift and students on the evening

kaled78

so do drivers now finish at 9pm instead of 10pm?,have they scrapped late delivery slots?

madness

the trial is the latest finish is 2100 

8-1330 lunch 1430-2000
9-1430 lunch 1530-2100

WageSlave81

#263
One question I wanted to ask, at our store its 17 drops, lunch, 17 drops, load evening (usually 12-15), finish, so a van total of about 45-49 for the day

Is the trial just 2 runs of 17?  The way it was described in our store was 3 runs of max 15, with 2x 60 mins breaks for a max of 45 drops a day

Clayton

Are any stores who only run 8 or 9 vans on this new system ?

madness

technically shouldnt get 17 drops as only max 15 freezer spaces? obviously not everyone gets freezer stuff but in summer most will.

We are about same number of drops whichever system is used new or trial but trial uses less driver hours and a trip less.

WageSlave81

Ours has been 17 per run for years, very rare to get less than 15, freezer space is always at the max so sometimes have to double up in the trays

des

Night van going out with 19 freezer tonight.  4 freezer trays for one house. Don't know how he managed to get them on the van

madness

4 freezers for one house? usually thats a very unhealthy household  :D

of our 10 vans on the trials most drivers are not happy with the longer days. the ones with kids hate it as they never see them.
And on their days off they are too tired to do anything.

rogerthedodger

Surprised it doesn't seem much longer than a normal shift? And probably an extra day or 2 off?
Each to their own like

sonic8610

A lot of people don't like change, especially if it affects what they have at the moment.

dfl

Looks like my store is about to be deepliy involved in this
DFL

rogerthedodger

Quote from: dfl on 16-05-24, 05:54PMLooks like my store is about to be deepliy involved in this
In what the trial?
What part of the country are you?

madness

Trial is a goahead for being made perminant in our store. Driver feedback meant very little they went off the number of drops they could fill into a slot creating a better fill %. I was on the trial hours of 12 hours days instead of 10 and wanted to go back to the 10 but overruled. Will still stay with the company as its still a better job than others out there but im now unlikely to ever pick up overtime as im too tired from the longer days.

dfl

@madness does this mean the backshift (4hr runs) will be no longer
DFL

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