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  think that should come under "tools for the job" 

If they want you to use an app, then they need to provide the equipment to access it, can't discipline somebody who doesn't have the means or know how to access work related information!

If it's anything like the PDA farce...there'll be little, if any progress for the foreseeable 

Waiting for the bullying to start to make this shitty system work,that's the only way it will work. 

Quote from: lucgeo on 11-03-23, 05:00PM think that should come under "tools for the job" 

If they want you to use an app, then they need to provide the equipment to access it, can't discipline somebody who doesn't have the means or know how to access work related information!

If it's anything like the PDA farce...there'll be little, if any progress for the foreseeable 

Exactly 😂, the aim is to have atleast 80% of colleagues trained up for it around by time it gets near and 90 something in June 😂, ours is sat at about 46% trained, most can't access, there is still the paper sheets about for dot com and for checkout overtime, same for night etc.. So will be interesting to see the farce of it all in play.

Plus can't wait for Jane Doe who has spent years sitting down on a till to be presented with 12 cages of frozen and told they must fill it all b4 they go home.

Jane Doe has probably hit her scan targets, has hit her service targets etc. It could well be John Doe on shop floor who ends up on a till who will have to smile and chat with customers. Checkout hours in most stores are very tight. If Jane Doe is needed on shop floor it's as support and unlikely to be for a shift. You would not put someone from the shop floor straight to CSD, even as a second body and you would not put someone from checkouts to a heavy aisle. A bit of reality and less of a vindictive attitude is needed.

Quote from: Redshoes on 12-03-23, 10:45AMA bit of reality and less of a vindictive attitude is needed.

 

Quote from: Redshoes on 12-03-23, 10:45AMJane Doe has probably hit her scan targets, has hit her service targets etc. It could well be John Doe on shop floor who ends up on a till who will have to smile and chat with customers. Checkout hours in most stores are very tight. If Jane Doe is needed on shop floor it's as support and unlikely to be for a shift. You would not put someone from the shop floor straight to CSD, even as a second body and you would not put someone from checkouts to a heavy aisle. A bit of reality and less of a vindictive attitude is needed.

Is it 'you' putting the person on heavy stuff or 'the system'? Reading on here you folks have said how 'the system' just puts people where they are needed and it doesnt worry if so and so doesn't like heavy boxes

How I understood it, if Jane Doe has Freezers on her skills set then she could be scheduled to do a few hours there to cover the shortfall. If John Doe only has checkouts/cds then that's where he would stay or maybe asked to face off or a cardboard run. You should only be moved if you are trained on that dept. How that actually works in practice is anyone's guess.

What's with the rollout of training over 25 people on backdoor, are they planning to make backdoor men redundant or just relaunching tip and fill?

Can't make backdoor staff redundant as they are ga's just like the rest of you. Try and understand that all staff are ga's and there will be no redundancy unless you work nights. The rest of you will be here until you retire.

Understand if it will save them money they will carry on with the self destruction, profit over people.

Any other stores with a nightshift noticed later deliveries than usual? Our store used to get fresh delivery at 1am but the past few weeks its 4am or later, its even on the inform app as 4am now, is this the start of the final cull of nightshift?

I believe it's to do with some fresh distribution centres having to deliver to the PFS's at store's soon instead of Bookers!
Hence the Comms about a month ago telling stores to have about 25% of colleagues backdoor trained, which I believe has been reduced to 15% now.
All PFS's if not already will be visited by someone for distribution to do a risk assessment for the deliveries to happen on the forecourt!

Distribution in livi has started a new system called hive. Its to make the delivery system more efficient.  At the moment its pushing deliveries to about 4am and also full wagons of stock rather than the balance. This is having a big impact on stores. It will gradually change to earlier times eg 2am but you will still get the full wagon if stock rather than the balance. It might mean that fresh staff go into grocery to help fill in order to get grocery staff out to help later in fresh. It will be at present saving a few quid at the depots but the stores are suffering because of it. Thereby losing sales as the stores are not finished by 7am.

Quote from: Voulezvous on 12-04-23, 12:16PMAny other stores with a night shift noticed later deliveries than usual? Our store used to get fresh delivery at 1am but the past few weeks its 4am or later, its even on the inform app as 4am now, is this the start of the final cull of night shift?

Yes in my store we used to receive delivery coming in at 22.00 the earliest and now it is coming at 17.00 to 19.00. One individual has stated that before they removed nights in his store delivery times changed and became earlier.  So I do think that in your store they will cut it either fully or partially.

Quote from: Morris999 on 12-04-23, 12:37PMI believe it's to do with some fresh distribution centres having to deliver to the PFS's at store's soon instead of Bookers!
Hence the Comms about a month ago telling stores to have about 25% of colleagues backdoor trained, which I believe has been reduced to 15% now.
All PFS's if not already will be visited by someone for distribution to do a risk assessment for the deliveries to happen on the forecourt!

My store the fresh and delivery are both coming inat early times never happened before ever

We have had someone from distribution visit us about deliveries to pfs. They said they needed to see that a lorry was able to deliver to the pfs or if the drop off would have to be at the store. I pointed out that the pfs was able to have a tanker deliver. The tanker lane has to be kept clear but if tankers were able to deliver and fuel up at a site they should also be able to take deliveries that come off a lorry.

Same here. Our lorry parks in the tanker bay when it arrives.  If there's a tanker there when Bookers arrive, we put Bookers on the far lane (p@p only).

In my store as well they have stated they will be looking to review the nights either cut it or not this year around the summer autumn time. It is strange how delivery is coming in far earlier which is probably a sign they risk cut nights. I also stated before that the main reason Tesco brought in this new system pick fill serve is so that they can remove the nights or cut them and get more people fo fill.Saving them millions in night shift pay and insurance.

And ... We're off again eh Bob ... ?

Anyone else still able to access store apps/ inform etc? Mine still working and made redundant yesterday

Hope springs eternal bob

Quote from: 5fdp on 30-04-23, 07:59AMHope springs eternal bob

     

Quote from: Specialone on 30-04-23, 07:49AMAnyone else still able to access store apps/ inform etc? Mine still working and made redundant yesterday

I wonder if your 'end date' hasn't gone through the system yet? My night lead who left Saturday said the outgoing colleagues in our store were still showing on the scheduler screen for weeks ahead yet.

You will be able to access your details for a week, so make sure you download and print payslips and p60