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A few years back this was the criteria for the mgrs matrix. Number of job roles, absence, disciplinaries, length of service, year end review and forgot the last one. Hope this helps.

All store mgrs had to input your predicted year end review grade to HO about 5 weeks ago. So thats already done. Mgrs who have moved jobs roles and stores alot will score higher than a mgr who has stayed in the same store and job role for many many years. Remember all criteria must be black and white not based on whether the SM likes you. Remember also that most mgrs are graded by lead team at year end and not SM. I gave my year end grades for my mgrs 5 weeks ago. We knew then what was coming.

For all lead night mgrs. There are a couple of good movies on tonight early doors. Sit back and relax. 🥳👍 the team leaders will pick up the slack.

Any affected lead managers had their figures yet ?
I thought we would have had something through by this week.

Nope not yet

Quote from: Davethebave on 03-02-23, 07:36AMExperience across multiple departments will not be a factor. Anything that you don't know can be provided to you via training.

The manager role will be office based so shopfloor knowledge ain't all that important.

The criteria will most likely be:

Disciplinary record
First aider
EOY performance
Colleague reviews completed
Average exceptions generated (has been tracked for a while now)
% of pick, fill and serve completed

Length of service to separate any ties.


At this stage, no store manager has the final criteria as the "union" has to sign off on it by the 22/2

Stick to the facts.  This is NOT the criteria!

So Practicaldog, what are the facts? What is the criteria?

Nobody knows.

Quote from: 2ndtimeround on 14-02-23, 10:04AMAny affected lead managers had their figures yet ?
I thought we would have had something through by this week.

Your SM will definitely have your figure. My SM messaged me yesterday to say he has mine. I'm just not going to see him until later in the week to get it

Nobody knows for definite but the criteria put forward by Tosco to usdaw is on colleague help in the collective consultation summary from last week. There should be a further update after the next meeting.

Lead mgrs. Letters this week by the latest.

Quote from: ForCryingOutLoud on 14-02-23, 02:13PMSo Practicaldog, what are the facts? What is the criteria?

Criteria is detailed in the collective summary of the meeting held last week and is on colleague help; enter collective in search field. 
Union is challenging it but in summary:

Performance Review grade for 20/21 and 21/22
Disciplinary and/or Absence warnings - Live only
Every Voice Matters score for How I Feel About My Manager) and also if you have a live plan the team know it
Big 6 measures and how you have contributed to it
Tie breaker is Next Steps quantity via Audits and also if you have managed your routines.

These are the facts and people should stop stating non facts.  All this info will be detailed in the collective output as described on colleague help.  Next one is due by Thursday this week

Would be interesting to see if a tribunal would rule that criteria to be fair and objective or not 🤠

Any one know what would be the case should a job share manager score the lowest, if they were removed then the store would still be over structure.
We have 4 Full Time TM and 2 who job share. We are to be down to 4 Full time TM under the new structure. Both job share TM told they score individually, so in theory, one of the job share TM could score highest, and the other the lowest. But if a job share TM was selected for redundancy, or step down, we would still be over structure by half a TM.

@nightowl or be under structure surely is another scenario,if 1 job share was lowest scorer surely then a full timer would also go as that would surely invalidate the scoring system unless theres a tie on points at the bottom

Quote from: Practicaldog on 14-02-23, 08:53PM

Quote from: ForCryingOutLoud on 14-02-23, 02:13PMSo Practicaldog, what are the facts? What is the criteria?

Criteria is detailed in the collective summary of the meeting held last week and is on colleague help; enter collective in search field. 
Union is challenging it but in summary:

Performance Review grade for 20/21 and 21/22
Disciplinary and/or Absence warnings - Live only
Every Voice Matters score for How I Feel About My Manager) and also if you have a live plan the team know it
Big 6 measures and how you have contributed to it
Tie breaker is Next Steps quantity via Audits and also if you have managed your routines.

These are the facts and people should stop stating non facts.  All this info will be detailed in the collective output as described on colleague help.  Next one is due by Thursday this week

so with this, for team managers, do they get offered redundancy for having c**p WMTY results for them being c**p at being a manager? if so that's probably why ours has been offered a redundancy package, though they've apparently given a terrible one which is apparently not worth taking 

With regards to EVM. I am I right in saying that mgrs with debts less than 8 staff won't register to a particular depts but get mixed in with ambient. I'm leaning towards stock control mgrs who may not get a result. EvM is to wishy washy to be putting people out a job. An industrial tribunal would eat tesco alive.

Got my letter today. Getting about 5k more than whats on vlh calculator.  But it is a good ball park figure. Please input your details to help.

Having gone through the information on Tesco Help it looks like there is a lot the union and company need to iron out in a very short timeframe.
One thing of note, and I hope someone can confirm I'm correct in this, it said the first part of redundancy is tax/ni free, and the second part is if under £30,000. As a combined total ( for me it would go over the threshold )will I be liable for tax/ni or are they classed as two separate payments, and so in my case, tax free?
If tax free, and I receive redundancy then that's a definite added bonus!

You pay tax on the proportion above 30k

Quote from: 5fdp on 15-02-23, 02:11AMGot my letter today. Getting about 5k more than whats on vlh calculator.  But it is a good ball park figure. Please input your details to help.

Was this from your SM, I've only had the first informal meeting and nothing else

Good luck to everyone facing redundancy 

There are many opportunities out there for people...from retraining courses to going back to local college and furthering your education. In Wales they have free government retraining programmes for those facing unemployment, known as ReACT, there may be similar programs in the rest of the country with your local government.
The local colleges will have a list of courses available from September, but enrol and get on a course before they start end of year exams and summer break, as at these times it's quite difficult to get to speak to anyone regarding what each course entails and whether suitable.

Regardless of the amount of your redundancy sum, you can sign up in the local job centre and receive JSA benefit for six months. It's the basic sum up to  £77 per week, it can't be backdated so sign up immediately on leaving, it isn't means tested and though not a great deal "every little helps" 

You'll also get your shares, as no longer an employee. Luckily as you're leaving near the end of the financial year, you won't be over taxed for predicted earnings for the rest of the year, saves the faffing of claiming a tax rebate.

Take time out to focus on what you want to do, don't just take the first job offer unless it's really what you want! Lots of previous colleagues in your position have gone on to achieve better positions in all the different job sectors.

Anyone leaving with a long service record, check whether you have an accrued weeks pay withheld from you initially joined the company.

Lucgeo, thanks for the above, whilst feeling a bit stressed by it all, and a bit scared, I do want to go ( with redundancy ). I know there's a wide world out there and the money would give me the opportunity to take a bit of time out and search for something that I am passionate about to finish out my working days.

Quote from: 5fdp on 15-02-23, 02:11AMGot my letter today. Getting about 5k more than what's on vlh calculator.  But it is a good ball park figure. Please input your details to help.

Anybody have an insight into why VLH calculator is so far out, has some criteria changed ?
Please email admin if you know rather than posting or PM me if you can.

Quote from: NorthbyNorthwest on 15-02-23, 02:09PMLucgeo, thanks for the above, whilst feeling a bit stressed by it all, and a bit scared, I do want to go ( with redundancy ). I know there's a wide world out there and the money would give me the opportunity to take a bit of time out and search for something that I am passionate about to finish out my working days.

You'll be fine and I wish you well.

It is scary leaving a job you've invested time in and become comfortable in the role...but don't undersell yourself, you are a manager so have many credentials employers are looking for. At least you have the financial back up of a payout and shares to refrain you from making a knee jerk reaction.
Having had the ear of many managers facing this in the past few years, I advised them there's more out there that you're qualified for other than retail. The NHS management sector, any local government sector that don't work shifts, late nights or weekends etc...many have gone on to managerial roles, on better pay and conditions in these sectors.

This is probably your chance to do the job you want, rather than just do a job to pay the bills...I wish you the very best in your future chosen career path...good luck