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Title: Banked holidays
Post by: Mumsie14 on 31-12-22, 04:35PM
Anyone know how to work out banked holiday entitlement owed from a 1998 contract?
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 01-01-23, 12:55AM
Holiday entitlement is all in hours now ,it tells you on your wage slip the hours.plus personal day
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: londoner83 on 01-01-23, 05:34AM
Raise a ticket on colleague help and they will tell you what your entitlement is.....however I have no idea how you check what they provide is correct.
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 01-01-23, 08:01PM
Sure on our tesco theres a formula for working it out
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: Mumsie14 on 02-01-23, 08:11PM
I've just left the company so can't get access to any policies.  It's for holidays owed from starting the company in 1998,  for the first number of months employment holidays were banked rather than being allowed to take then.  Banked holidays were then to be paid when you left the company or retired.  Just wondering if anyone knows what calculation is used to work out how much holiday money is owed.
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: lucgeo on 02-01-23, 09:39PM
Accrued leave should have been calculated and paid before you left!

It would be based on the contracted hours you were working at that time of joining, and the hourly rate you were receiving at the time of leaving!
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: Mumsie14 on 03-01-23, 07:26AM
I assumed that too but they didn't pay me anything.   After being back and forward a few times with wages they have agreed that I am right and am now owed the money. Just wondering how it is worked out to ensure that's its correct.
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: lucgeo on 03-01-23, 09:51AM
Oh that old chestnut... 8-) quite a few times with colleagues leaving, retiring or being made redundant, that asked me for advise or support, would not have been told about the accrued holiday payment, the same rehearsed surprised look from wages when I asked for a print out, you'd think it was coming out of their own pocket!
Some Colleagues didn't know about the 6 month retirement plan in dropping a 5th of your contracted hours on full pay either  ???
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: Mumsie14 on 03-01-23, 04:01PM
Yes that old chestnut lol... just want to make sure I'm paid correctly and get this sorted out once and for all
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: Morris999 on 03-01-23, 05:40PM
You should be paid the outstanding holidays at current pay rate.
I'll be honest not had someone leave on that contract since work & pay was introduced so know idea how it's worked out in your pay.
I'll be surprised if they even realised that when they introduced it, as the people who did it most likely didn't work for the company back then and even know about the old contracts!
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: lucgeo on 04-01-23, 09:16AM
Especially worth bearing in mind, is most people joined the company on full time or higher hour contracts, and may have dropped hours/shifts over the years.

So final holiday pay must be calculated on your starting contracted hours, not your leaving contracted hours.
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: Elly1519 on 04-01-23, 03:26PM
Accrued holidays are based on your current hours. I started in the 1980s and will be paid out 6 x 30 hours contracted when I leave. I am a wages clerk and can see that information on W&P.r
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: Elly1519 on 04-01-23, 06:29PM

Mumsie14, this is the relevant information for you.
c) Banking scheme
• All colleagues employed in stores between 6th October 1996 and 11th January 2003 (except for StoreManagers)
These colleagues were not able to take any holiday in the first three months of employment and the holiday they earned (one week) was banked and will be paid to them
when they leave Tesco at their current daily rate of pay.
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: lucgeo on 04-01-23, 06:46PM
I'm thinking that can't be right! Unless the policy has drastically changed and been agreed by the union ???
It should be based on the hours you were contracted to when you joined the company, when their holiday entitlement was frozen! Therefore those on 36.5 hour contracts, common in the 80's and 90's, was banked and resulted in a weeks/36.5 holiday entitlement owed!

Lots of colleagues have dropped hours and shifts over the years, therefore to pay their accrued holiday pay at their current hours, if less than their starting contract, then basically they're being robbed :o

Also on the flip side, those who joined on low hour contracts which were banked, who have now increased their hourly contracts over the years are to be paid in excess in what they worked back then  ???

Did you have a 30 hour contract in the 80's when you joined the company ???
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: lucgeo on 04-01-23, 06:52PM
Quote from: Elly1519 on 04-01-23, 06:29PMMumsie14, this is the relevant information for you.
c) Banking scheme
• All colleagues employed in stores between 6th October 1996 and 11th January 2003 (except for StoreManagers)
These colleagues were not able to take any holiday in the first three months of employment and the holiday they earned (one week) was banked and will be paid to them 
when they leave Tesco at their current daily rate of pay.

That should be current hourly rate on their banked weeks/ hourly pay 8-) don't give a monkeys what Tesco have dreamed up!! I would challenge that forcefully as they are deliberately withholding payments due!!  >:(
Title: Holiday entitlement
Post by: Reindeerparty on 09-01-23, 11:17AM
Good morning all,
I don't often post but need a question  answering... I am as from this week working a 4 day week (prev worked 5 36.5 hrs) night shift.
Need to know how many hols + b/hols I will be entitled to from now on I believe total is 36 days ( I'm old school contract) prefer working  my hols out in days not hrs.
Been on our tesco & can't work out from that!
Any help appreciated.thanks
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 09-01-23, 03:47PM
Times your hours by 7.6 if youve got 15 years service or 7.2 if 10-14,personal day still seperate
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: lackofinterest on 09-01-23, 05:03PM
Quote from: Reindeerparty on 09-01-23, 11:17AMGood morning all,
I don't often post but need a question  answering... I am as from this week working a 4 day week (prev worked 5 36.5 hrs) night shift.
Need to know how many hols + b/hols I will be entitled to from now on I believe total is 36 days ( I'm old school contract) prefer working  my hols out in days not hrs.
Been on our tesco & can't work out from that!
Any help appreciated.thanks
yes 36 days if 15+ years. 34 days if 10-15 years. don't know how many if 20 or 25 years. basically 7 weeks plus 8 bank holidays for 15+ or 6 weeks and 2 days plus 8 bank holidays for 10-15 years. you also get a personal day on top
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: Reindeerparty on 09-01-23, 05:28PM
Thanks for your reply sherwood Forest I have over 22years service.
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: NightAndDay on 09-01-23, 09:57PM
Holidays would be calculated like in the majority of places as pro-rata this can be calculated and applied dynamically even if your contracted hours changed part way through the year.
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: Aus1988 on 10-01-23, 02:48AM
Quote from: Reindeerparty on 09-01-23, 11:17AMGood morning all,
I don't often post but need a question  answering... I am as from this week working a 4 day week (prev worked 5 36.5 hrs) night shift.
Need to know how many hols + b/hols I will be entitled to from now on I believe total is 36 days ( I'm old school contract) prefer working  my hols out in days not hrs.
Been on our tesco & can't work out from that!
Any help appreciated.thanks
I work 4 nights a week 30 hours in total have 34yrs service  .holiday entitlement approx 24.5 days 6 Bank hols and  personal day  so it would roughly be that but probably  you would be entitled a few more hols up til April as previously been full time .
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: lackofinterest on 10-01-23, 06:48AM
you're being ripped off then! ???
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: Aus1988 on 10-01-23, 09:21AM
Quote from: lackofinterest on 10-01-23, 06:48AMyou're being ripped off then! ???
why is this wrong??
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: 5fdp on 10-01-23, 10:59AM
Hi . Your remaining holiday hours will depend on how many hours you have already taken off. If you have used more than you have reached at the time of changing hours it will reduce. The system automatically works out your remaining hours so it will be on your payslip. Your mgr can also show you on the screen. It all depends if you have taken too many holidays at 5 nights before you went down to 4 nights. You can't get screwed as it will sit as outstanding hols on the bosses system.
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: Reindeerparty on 10-01-23, 07:18PM
Hi 5fdp

I still have 5 days more hol to take + the 5 b/hol hrs. I am starting my 4 nights as from this week. Thanks to everyone  who replied to my post :)
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: lackofinterest on 10-01-23, 10:08PM
Quote from: Aus1988 on 10-01-23, 09:21AM
Quote from: lackofinterest on 10-01-23, 06:48AMyou're being ripped off then! ???
why is this wrong??
you should get 7weeks holiday which is 28 days on a 4 shift week plus 8 bank holidays at least. i get that for 15+ years
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: 5fdp on 10-01-23, 10:25PM
Lack of interest.  Thats all wrong. 6 weeks hols and 8 bh if you work 5 nights or days, then 1 pd. 
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: 5fdp on 10-01-23, 10:28PM
If you work 5 nights or days and have 15+ yrs service you get about 274 hrs and 1 pd.
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: lackofinterest on 10-01-23, 10:45PM
it doesnt matter how many shifts you work. you still get 6 weeks holiday plus bh's e.g if you only work 1 day a week you will get 6 days off per year plus bh's
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 10-01-23, 11:49PM
@lackofinterest no true,if you have less than 5 years your total including bhols is 6 weeks holiday,SERVICE MATTERS
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: 5fdp on 11-01-23, 08:06AM
Service matters. 4.5 weeks under 5 yrs service.
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: Elly1519 on 11-01-23, 01:38PM
Quote from: Elly1519 on 04-01-23, 03:26PMAccrued holidays are based on your current hours. I started in the 1980s and will be paid out 6 x 30 hours contracted when I leave. I am a wages clerk and can see that information on W&P.r
Quote from: lucgeo on 04-01-23, 06:46PMI'm thinking that can't be right! Unless the policy has drastically changed and been agreed by the union ???
It should be based on the hours you were contracted to when you joined the company, when their holiday entitlement was frozen! Therefore those on 36.5 hour contracts, common in the 80's and 90's, was banked and resulted in a weeks/36.5 holiday entitlement owed!

Lots of colleagues have dropped hours and shifts over the years, therefore to pay their accrued holiday pay at their current hours, if less than their starting contract, then basically they're being robbed :o

Also on the flip side, those who joined on low hour contracts which were banked, who have now increased their hourly contracts over the years are to be paid in excess in what they worked back then  ???

Did you have a 30 hour contract in the 80's when you joined the company ???
No I didnt. I started on about 10 hours.
Title: Re: Banked holidays
Post by: Truthtalker on 28-01-23, 06:04PM
Your line manager will be able to tell you what banked holidays you have.its on your holiday entitlement on oracle.