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Pay review 2023

Started by person7, 05-02-23, 02:55PM

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NightAndDay

I'm fortunate enough to be detached from the typical salary scale enough that I'm not impacted by what I see, this pay review is a good one for hourly paid colleagues, the trend outside of Retail however isn't as pretty, for most of the other industries with middling pay (£30-£40k a year bracket) the percentages are on average 3-4% across the board, the bigger picture is that traditional middle income jobs are falling further and further down the salary ladder when looking at the range of lowest to highest.

The middle class has been eroding for the past 15 years, looking at other salaried jobs that are around the same pay packet as most managers, I would expect something along the lines of 5% at most as an increase to their salary, maybe 7% for the £26k a year Team Managers being the exception.

madness

Line managers cannot get 7% payrise. Kinda proved how far removed you are from the "front line"
Personally my decesion to leave mangment was after covid where i got a "met" despite volunteering to run all the covid related jobs in store. looking after the 10-20 car park and store help people we had. All the time still running my 3 departments in store.
To be classed as "met" was a f****ng insult that was the final straw for a pathetic 2% pay increase.

Doggiedoodle

Sorry but what is a "met"?

Duff McKagan

It means you achieved the basic requirements of your job....didn't go the extra mile etc etc...what used to be called a green...but its changed again now

Doggiedoodle


NightAndDay

#331
Quote from: madness on 25-03-23, 01:20AMLine managers cannot get 7% payrise. Kinda proved how far removed you are from the "front line"
Personally my decesion to leave mangment was after covid where i got a "met" despite volunteering to run all the covid related jobs in store. looking after the 10-20 car park and store help people we had. All the time still running my 3 departments in store.
To be classed as "met" was a f****ng insult that was the final straw for a pathetic 2% pay increase.

It'd be very easy to argue that at least a 7% raise is in order for TMs on the base £26k a year salary as to not give that would mean they'd be too close to Shift Leaders on earnings and therefore the role would lose the financial incentive for anyone to progress to it.

A 7% raise would push it up from £26k a year to near enough £28k a year, if they didn't, especially with inflation and the labour market the way it is, they will be very hard pushed to fill these positions.

In fact, if what you said would be the case, you'd just have TMs dropping down to Shift Leaders in the long term as they're guaranteed a pay raise regardless of performance, the nominal increases would outpace the 2-3% raises TMs would get with their "mets".

oldfashionedplayer

They don't value any of them though, so 7% is highly unlikely, they want to cut them thin as much as they can and what better way than making them leave of their own accord due to the bad pay rise? Expect something more like 3% maximum I'd say to be honest, or 4% and removal of bonus

chris9997

To have a different pay structure to other staff in that you get a pay rise based on performance is totally wrong , as your financial future is based around your bosses interpretation of your job role.
I expect MM who don't deserve pay rises get it and ones who do don't get it.

NightAndDay

Quote from: oldfashionedplayer on 26-03-23, 04:32PMThey don't value any of them though, so 7% is highly unlikely, they want to cut them thin as much as they can and what better way than making them leave of their own accord due to the bad pay rise? Expect something more like 3% maximum I'd say to be honest, or 4% and removal of bonus

If they didn't value them they wouldn't be in the structure, if they want their operational vision of SL's being duty and TMs being more admin focused, they need to make the role tenable for progression, if they give 3-4% increases, they would be on about £1k above an SL (maybe less than that if you consider they got their pay raise a few months after).

Retainment needs to be a key part of their operations strategy, failing that and you'll have stores with no or a lack of TMs.

oldfashionedplayer

I agree however they have the focus of cut cut cut, and whatever the papers say that are thrown in from to them, they'll follow.. Its why there's so much aggro on the shop floor, no staff but overhours.. Like heat maps say for ours we have too many staff on back door during day.. With 60 hours over, we have 1 person who's currently contracted and does it during the week for 4 hours a day for 4 days 😂, the other hours used are used from everywhere else which are already over anyhow so it's always a shambles so just have to see what gets offered...

fatlad

Anyone know what the rate of pay will be on b/h Monday's?
Will it be the new £12.89 like on Sunday's or will it still be time + 1/4? Thanks

oldfashionedplayer

bank holidays are staying at time + 25%, its only sundays that are time and 17%

fatlad


grim up north

What happens with bank hols as easter falls twice in the same holiday period?

londoner83

If you want Both Easters off you need to use some of your holiday allowance for both dates in this holiday year.

Bobmay

Quote from: 5fdp on 20-03-23, 08:24PMBobmay. No redundancy for you then.

They have already stated that most express stores have removed nights soon my store will be joining them.

BritishRacingGreen

More tales of the riverbank,eh, Bobmay ...

5fdp

Bobmay...hope springs eternal.

Pmjd84

Does anyone know if we are getting a bonus this year?

TechSupporter

Store managers have this year pay %'s banding increases.

Looks like a matrix of 3% at the smallest to 11% at the biggest

5fdp

Bonus will be announced mid April sometime.

JJH

To be paid in April or May?

Beanny


T.C.1

It would be a pleasant surprise if we got a bonus but I thought we gave the bonus up with a pay rise 2 years ago?.

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