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Do we still Get paid for isolating?

Started by person7, 20-07-21, 02:10PM

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Sherwoodforest

#100
They have a choice to take a test or not though, pre Covid you'd go to work with flu or a cold, now if a manager tells you to come in knowing you have Covid, then they should be disciplined.

Redshoes

Testing is not required now. Test kits are available to buy but we can't force people to buy kits, to then test and then make them go through unpaid sick. It's now a matter of if you are fit to work. If not well and unable to come to work you should stay home. There is a comment asking if you have an infectious illness but is on the return to work form.
Nobody should be coming to work if they are not well enough to work. Likewise, it would be nice if people did not spread things round the store but when you are not paying someone you can't send them home unless they are unfit to work.

Sherwoodforest

If you read the policy,if its infectious you stay home till its negative,no bs about fit to work,

Redshoes

There is nothing about negative and positive results now. There is nothing about Covid. It does mention infectious conditions and states that it's best not to bring into work but as most don't get paid for first three days the wording is guarded.

Sherwoodforest

If you have Covid 19 symptoms or you test positive you should not attend the workplace.  You should follow the relevant health guidance for your nation in terms of isolation.

 

In most cases the UK nations' health authorities are recommending that you isolate for five days (you should also avoid contact with those that you know are at higher risk for ten days), in Wales they recommend that after day five you take an LFD test to confirm that you are symptom free before returning to work. In Scotland it is recommended that you stay at home until you no longer have a temperature, or you feel better

Sherwoodforest

Thats  tesco policy,not ignore it because you dont get paid for first 3 days,

oldfashionedplayer

Quote from: Redshoes on 25-08-22, 07:44AMTesting is not required now. Test kits are available to buy but we can't force people to buy kits, to then test and then make them go through unpaid sick. It's now a matter of if you are fit to work. If not well and unable to come to work you should stay home. There is a comment asking if you have an infectious illness but is on the return to work form.
Nobody should be coming to work if they are not well enough to work. Likewise, it would be nice if people did not spread things round the store but when you are not paying someone you can't send them home unless they are unfit to work.
16. Should we be allowing a colleague to return to work where we know they are infectious?  
 
As an employer we have a duty of care under the Health & Safety At Work Act to ensure the health and safety and welfare of our employees so far as it is reasonably practicable. Our colleagues also have duties to each other under that act to take reasonable care for the health and safety of themselves and to other colleagues who may be affected by their acts, and to cooperate with their employer to ensure that those duties are complied with. 
 
We are now explicitly calling out on our return-to-work form declaration that a colleague who has an infectious disease means that they are not fit for work, and we expect colleagues to be truthful about this. If we believe that a colleague has infectious condition the manager is within their rights to instruct a colleague not to attend the workplace until they are well enough and no longer pose a risk to the safety of others.  


Quite clear I would think to be honest..

Redshoes

Yes, that is clear but it does not mention Covid. It does not ask for testing so no talk of negative and positive results. Infectious means colds and flu etc at same level as Covid. There is no distinction.
Many, many people who were testing positive with Covid had no symptoms or were showing signs slight of symptoms after several days. We have had one colleague nearly die and was off a very long time and we have had one colleague very ill in the past few weeks. I don't dismiss Covid. I'm just saying it's no different to anything else now. It all goes by symptoms. If a colleague is not testing and shows no symptoms there is no way anyone would suspect they have Covid. As such it all comes down to being fit enough to attend work, just as I said.

oldfashionedplayer

it doesn't come down to "fit enough" - I get that they may not have symptoms..

but it clearly says on the "Coronavirus: Questions and Answers "Date updated: August 10, 2022 10:08" Returning to Work
You should now use our normal Sickness Absence Return to Work meeting form to confirm that a colleague is fit for work and does not have an infectious disease. There is no longer a separate COVID-19 Return to Work form.

Hence, covid is an infectious disease... Seriously I don't get how people think it isn't, if it spreads fast, it's infectious, Diarrhoea, Flu, Norovirus...

Its not about dismissing or not dismissing, its interpretation to keep people working that's causing more problems, I get that if a colleague has no symptoms they may still be contagious, and yes there isn't any requirement now to test by law, BUT if someone DOES have symptoms, or believes they may have come into contact with someone who has tested positive, then they SHOULD test and be more careful with others...

For those who HAVE had it, they DON'T want others getting it...

They should update the policy wording though, because if you DO ask with colleague help, they will tell you to isolate when positive and only return when you've "Tested Negative" or stay off if you believe you have symptoms until your over them (yes i do think the symptoms without testing will still be abused, but better safe than sorry in most cases to be honest)

From my and relatives experience, it was worse for me for a few months after testing negative than it was while positive.. I'm still slowly recovering, so I wouldn't wish it on anyone.. cause often other stuff doesn't long, but this one was a kicker.

Redshoes

#109
We can't ask colleagues to buy tests so if they no longer have test kits from when they were free there is nothing we can do. There is no Covid pay now, it just normal sick pay so we simply can't ask them to buy tests and then tell them the normal sick pay policy kicks in.

Preacherpauly

#110
A colleague got told they could come back to work after 48rs after testing positive for covid if they feel well enough and don't need a negative test. Says all you need to know about how seriously the higher ups take the policy on infectious diseases.

Lets be honest how many staff do you see with colds etc in the winter, coughing and sniffling, do they get sent home when they're clearly infectious? No, because they don't want people off.


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