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Quote from: 1982dave on 07-12-23, 02:12PMAccording to the mirror it's guaranteed 12 but uk wide it's 12.95 a hour for store staff 13.85 a hour inside m25 and salaried staff also getting a decent pay rise aswell .. let's face it tho if we do get near 12£ a hour then there's a huge chance any premium will go to compensate the pay rise

If Tesco does pay 13.85 an hour for store staff in london for those who work nights they would get nearly 16 pound on night shift and on saturday night shift they would get nearly 18 pound and that if they keep the sunday premium.

If they limit the Sunday premo as previously mentioned it reduces those Saturday night shifts.

£18 an hour today is less than the £14 in real terms that I used to get back when Sunday premo was time and a half when ca wage was £8 an hour or so, you have to remember £18 an hour is soon to be 50% up from Tesco floor wages.

And it's only for 5.5 hours a week.

When do we usually find out what the new pay deal will be?

Usdaw and Tesco begin negotiations towards the end of January I think. The previous pay deal was announced at the end of February.

Anyone know if the equal pay claim we will be getting anything? Had to write on here as it won't let me create a new thread...

The one for another supermarket is still being followed up.

Will be a long time before there'll be any significant progress one way or another because the supermarkets will  fight every possible detail and appeal route.

the expected before covid was 2025, they said covid added atleast 5 years so atleast 2030...

Hi Guys and Girls,

Not sure how to use this site as new here so apologies if I have posted in the wrong area, anyways I just wanted to get some advice from colleagues regarding a issue, so recently I have had a injury at work due to a faulty oven at work, I work in a express store and mainly work late shifts so I don't normally bake apart from one day, now I have reason to believe I don't have any formal training on the bake off area and when I searched on click and learn I don't have the bake off training or the food prep area signed off or even a percentage completed, I had just been going by what the shift leaders have told me informally which was basically you press this button and that and that's it wait till the timer runs out, now the other day I went to close the bakery oven and the glass had shattered all over me I sustained some injuries but luckily enough they weren't as bad as they could have potentially been! Anyone know what are the specific requirements for someone to bake in a express store, all advice would be much appreciated

If you've been operating machinery/equipment without the proper training I'm sorry to tell you that the responsibility for any injuries sustained is yours and yours alone. "I was just following orders" has never been an effective excuse I'm afraid.
Hope you're not too badly injured but I have to say it is solely your fault. You need to grow a pair and learn to say "sorry, I haven't had the requisite training to do that" if you are asked to do a job you haven't had training for.

edit - posted in wrong one woops, meant ot reply in the physical

Quote from: Happyguy on 23-12-23, 04:42PMIf you've been operating machinery/equipment without the proper training I'm sorry to tell you that the responsibility for any injuries sustained is yours and yours alone. "I was just following orders" has never been an effective excuse I'm afraid.
Hope you're not too badly injured but I have to say it is solely your fault. You need to grow a pair and learn to say "sorry, I haven't had the requisite training to do that" if you are asked to do a job you haven't had training for.

If the machinery was defective, as is seemingly the case here, a proper Health and Safety assessment wouldn't have been conducted, if this was due to a lack of process the company is responsible, if it's due to audits not being done properly, tbe person doing them is responsible.

There's entries in the safe and legal logbook which highlights such issues and asks for next steps, with phone numbers for helplines to get maintenance or relevent people to look at and repair if necessary.

Now if we can get back to topic, thank you.

Sainsburys going up to £12 an hour for most staff, those in London to get £13.15 an hour.

https://www.about.sainsburys.co.uk/news/latest-news/2023/04-01-2023-sainsburys-makes-200-million-pound-investment-colleague-pay-increase#:~:text=At%20Sainsbury's%20we%20will%20be,500%20million%20over%20three%20years.

today sainsbury,s announces pay rise for all it,s employees from £11.00 to £12.00 in march, if you work in london it will raise from £11.95 to £13.15, lets see what tesco will do.

That pretty much cements a minimum of £12 an hour from Tesco come April, likely even more as historically, they've always paid above Sainsbury's.

If I was a betting man, I reckon it'll go up to between £12.05 - £12.10, in April.

And the final nail in the coffin for Sunday Premiums too no doubt.

Let's face it if we do hit the 12£ a hour mark I'd imagine Sunday and bank holiday premium would go

living wage will be at £11.44, so that means sainsbury staff will only gain by 0.56 pence,so in fact it will not cover  the cost of living, like food bills, and USDAW taking great pleasure they helped,

The real cost of living outside of London according to the living wage foundation is £12 an hour on 40 hours a week (so £480 a week or just under £25k a year).

lets hope they make it matching or more then Sainsburys! although 9/10 times aldi and lidl will pay better as they seem to wait for tesco announcement then they copy us with few pence over lol

but I bet usdaw come to "an agreement" to loose all sunday pay (like new staff dont have anyway) and bank holiday pay. heck they probally lessen actual holiday pay to be 10% below the average hours.. they will do something to screw us over and make us actually financially worse off but LOOK like we getting more

It's not going to be hard to make it "LOOK" good - because we all know the "base" pay will increase by £1 (ish) - so in anyone's language, that looks good.

Of course, we know that none of the retailers are doing this out of the goodness of their hearts - it's purely down to the mandatory NLW. Ok - granted - that's not going up to £12 - but the extra 56p amounts to less than 5% above the NLW - so hardly something to blow their trumpets about.
And didn't I read in the "news article" about Sainsburys that they are also paying it in March - a whole month before they legally have to!!!

I also read that they get 15% discount every Fri and Sat.

after the way usdaw have screwed us over,altering everyone to a scan,pick,fill contract,im sure they have another gem just as good to unleash on us soon

In all honesty, not fussed about the scan pick and fill stuff cause it means that people actually pull their weight rather than thr whole "I can only do checkouts" when there's little or no footfall, if your being paid the same as someone else, should be expected to do the same workload to be honest..

If you have exclusions relating to disabilities and such, fair enough but if not, why should others have to do it?  It was a long overdue one I believe, but I do expect premiums to just go altogether next as a "we are making it equal" whilst usdaw is aiming to add them back in..... So I don't forsee a good one but the last was and I hate to say it, a better deal. Than expected.

 

I can see them scrapping the Sunday premium, Cutting the bank holiday premium but i can't see how they would get away with scrapping the nightshift premium, its hard enough to recruit staff for nightshift as it is.