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Quote from: Pmjd84 on 30-01-23, 08:33PM

Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 30-01-23, 08:19PM@Pmjd84 surely a night manager who works sat/sun wouldnt save anything as extra day hours will be on sunday

You mean Tesco wouldn't save anything? Yeah in that situation they probably wouldn't. Neither of the managers in my store work both a Saturday & a Sunday so doesn't apply to them. Think they're still losing money overall but happy to do that for the extra day off.

Wouldn't be surprised if going to 4 nights involves a 20% reduction in night premium

Got to lose a night TM and two from days in our SS.

Needless to say morale is rock bottom right now.

Exactly where the share price should go...

Just hope the 🤡 who came up with this dross go from drinking Möet to Stockie lemonade now 🤣

Quote from: whatajoke2019 on 31-01-23, 12:25AMGot to lose a night TM and two from days in our SS.

Needless to say morale is rock bottom right now.

Exactly where the share price should go...

Just hope the 🤡 who came up with this dross go from drinking Möet to Stockie lemonade now 🤣

What's the issue? Most management tasks are now redundant, or will be very soon with simplification of processes and digital advances. Why pay for a salaried colleague who isn't needed. Also, I'm a Store Manager, it's just not hard to see the bigger picture here.

People don't like change. Never have, never will. Don't like it? Leave. Tesco won't miss you, just remember they pay your bills.

essentially managers just glorified shelf stacker, least for nights currently, they just have to receive a sick call, and then take the abuse in the morning / stay behind a few extra hours... better for them to just go to GA's and for the company to fall more apart to be honest.. company so out of touch with stores.. but store managers are non existant, now that's a role you could definitely share the responsibilities out on ! 

Quote from: SpudChucker1970 on 31-01-23, 01:06AM

Quote from: whatajoke2019 on 31-01-23, 12:25AMGot to lose a night TM and two from days in our SS.

Needless to say morale is rock bottom right now.

Exactly where the share price should go...

Just hope the 🤡 who came up with this dross go from drinking Möet to Stockie lemonade now 🤣

What's the issue? Most management tasks are now redundant, or will be very soon with simplification of processes and digital advances. Why pay for a salaried colleague who isn't needed. Also, I'm a Store Manager, it's just not hard to see the bigger picture here.

People don't like change. Never have, never will. Don't like it? Leave. Tesco won't miss you, just remember they pay your bills.

i'm alright jack!!! my job's safe!!! by the way tesco don't pay my bills, i do. they pay me.

Quote from: SpudChucker1970 on 31-01-23, 01:06AM

Quote from: whatajoke2019 on 31-01-23, 12:25AMGot to lose a night TM and two from days in our SS.

Needless to say morale is rock bottom right now.

Exactly where the share price should go...

Just hope the 🤡 who came up with this dross go from drinking Möet to Stockie lemonade now 🤣

What's the issue? Most management tasks are now redundant, or will be very soon with simplification of processes and digital advances. Why pay for a salaried colleague who isn't needed. Also, I'm a Store Manager, it's just not hard to see the bigger picture here.

People don't like change. Never have, never will. Don't like it? Leave. Tesco won't miss you, just remember they pay your bills.

The issue is that tesco always looks from bottom up rather than bottom down, tell me something, as a store manager, what exactly do you do? If it wasn't for all the people below you, you wouldn't have a job! Do you think you could keep your store full, clean and priced by yourself??
What is the point of store managers anyway? I bet you my bottom dollar that if you take out all management levels and just left a store manager to run the show, that store manager would have a breakdown within a week!!!😄

This store manager is evidently Tesco's finest and clearly leads by example. I'm alright Jack. Shameful.

I would like to say that this person isn't a store manager as their attitude is far too arrogant to hold that role. Then I remember literally every store manager is an ar**h*le who has no clue what GA's have to go through on a daily basis let alone managers. Clearly he is perfect for Tesco directors as he doesn't give a s*** about anyone under them. If they are actually a store manager then I give my condolences to every colleague and manager who are under them.

The only good news from my view as a current night manager is the option to do my contracted hours over 4 days to give me 3 nights off which is perfect for me and my life and I don't mind losing about £50 a month in night rate to gain 4 days of my life back a month as my life and health is worth far more than £50.And I suspect if the offer is ever opened to the night CA's alot would also welcome it.

It's sad that in some cases the company is going to loose alot of good people but on the flip side clear alot of deadwood out also.

In my eyes this is just the start and all the team managers will be training up the new team support roles to eventually replace them in reality.

So there are barely any changes? I highly doubt it tesco stated they wanted to save 1 billion pound in three years. The only thing I heard was few managers being cut. Has anyone heard about anything regarding premium for night staff or anything affecting nights?

Quote from: whatajoke2019 on 30-01-23, 09:33PMTesco has today announced plans to close their remaining in-store counter services, restructuring store management roles and some head office functions, and making some store specific operational changes.

Clearly there is no good time to receive news like this, but it is especially difficult in the midst of a cost of living crisis and will be devastating for those who may be affected. Usdaw will be entering into collective consultation with Tesco immediately to interrogate these proposals.

We will be doing all we can to support members throughout the process with a view to protecting jobs and, where this is not possible, securing the best possible deal for those affected.

If you are impacted by these proposals, you are entitled to representation in your individual consultation meetings when they take place. If you have an Usdaw Rep in your workplace, you can speak to them about representation, alternatively you can contact your local Usdaw Office on 0800 030 80 30 to arrange representation.

Please bear in mind that, at this point in time, there is very little information available other than what has been announced by Tesco. The collective consultation process between Tesco and Usdaw will last several weeks, during which the Union will be seeking the best possible terms for our members, therefore it won't be possible for Reps to answer all of your questions immediately. The Union will be keeping Reps up to date on the progress of the collective consultation, and meeting notes will also be published on Colleague Help, which all Tesco staff can access.

News like this from the Company is never welcome, but the Union wanted to ensure all members knew about the proposals and try to provide some degree of reassurance that we will be doing all we can to support those impacted through this difficult time.

Roughly translates into: we don't give a flying fig 😒

And Usdaw would have agreed to this

For all remaining night mgrs...you will be offered to go to 4 nights instead of 5. You will not lose any pay from this change. This will happen week 10. No need to speculate on this info its in the pack. Read the pack that your boss has , all is explained in it.

USDAW don't get an option of wether they agree to a change, they simply get notified of the business plan then work through it with the company to try to mitigate the changes and make it as painless as possible for the colleagues.
Change is inevitable and there is nothing any Union can do to halt that, if truth be told there is little the company can do to avoid these changes, it's either adapt to the current retail conditions or go the way of several other retailers over the last decade.

Quote from: 5fdp on 31-01-23, 05:17AMFor all remaining night mgrs...you will be offered to go to 4 nights instead of 5. You will not lose any pay from this change. This will happen week 10. No need to speculate on this info its in the pack. Read the pack that your boss has , all is explained in it.

Bit unfair that the general nightshift assistants don't get the same offer of doing 4day working week though.

Quote from: Happyshopper on 30-01-23, 07:49PMAny news on express stores ?

Large Express stores to lose more hours

Quote from: Towers45 on 30-01-23, 08:40PM

Quote from: Generaldogsbody1 on 30-01-23, 08:28PM@Towers45 what size extra are you? How much do you take?

We have one of the biggest dot com operations on our group and are a Cat B

What is a Cat B plse??
We have 3 TMs in Dot Com with 200 + staff and take about 4.5-5 milliom

In my extra

Dot com stays as it is, however TM there are being offered the chance at redundancy, I guess this is to move other managers who would like to stay into there.

Taking dot com out of the picture  we have 9 managers and have to go down to 5. One daytime lead, no night lead.

Grocery - 1
Fresh - 1
CSD/PFS/Checkouts etc - 1
Stock/admin/wages/cash - 1
non food/clothing - 1

So four have to go. One is defo taking redundancy, I can see one of them accepting to drop down to shift lead but hard to call with the other two. I will be surprised if Grocery and Stock managers are moved because they are the only one's currently capable of doing those roles so it leaves Fresh, Non Food and Frontend to sort out.

Its not as bas as I was expecting providing the shift leaders who the SM chooses are decent. One of his previous picks for shift lead leaves a lot to be desired but if the right people are in the right place this should work. 

Over a decade ago they made majority of Team Leaders redundant... now they are streamlining managers and bringing back Team Leaders under a different name... "Shift Leaders" with far more responsibility without a proper hourly rate due to the basic rate being topped up by a "skills rate" that, much like the night premium, isn't subject to automatic pay increase during pay negotiations.

It's an absolute disgrace and exploitative beyond measure. Less Team Managers working alongside a handful of shift leaders... more responsibilities for less pay.

As for the remaining counters that will be closing... redundancies not being offered is something the Union should fight... the roles will be completely removed, loss of grade and completely new roles offered. Some affected may not be able to do other roles. Once again the company making every attempt to mask fire and rehire by stating that every colleague has the same title so redundancy not required. Absolute bovine.

I feel for all affected by this latest cull. But what infuriates me is that the company are adding more responsibilities on Team managers for less pay and the same goes for shift leaders.

The company also doing their utmost to screw over Lead Managers. Putting aside our gripes at times with management... they are employees that have been totally screwed year on year by this heartless company.

So much for the gratitude for all employees who worked through the pandemic... some of whom lost fellow colleagues during that time.

Quote from: Mikoo on 31-01-23, 07:38AMIn my extra

Dot com stays as it is, however TM there are being offered the chance at redundancy, I guess this is to move other managers who would like to stay into there.

Taking dot com out of the picture  we have 9 managers and have to go down to 5. One daytime lead, no night lead.

Grocery - 1
Fresh - 1
CSD/PFS/Checkouts etc - 1
Stock/admin/wages/cash - 1
non food/clothing - 1

So four have to go. One is defo taking redundancy, I can see one of them accepting to drop down to shift lead but hard to call with the other two. I will be surprised if Grocery and Stock managers are moved because they are the only one's currently capable of doing those roles so it leaves Fresh, Non Food and Frontend to sort out.

Its not as bas as I was expecting providing the shift leaders who the SM chooses are decent. One of his previous picks for shift lead leaves a lot to be desired but if the right people are in the right place this should work. 

Sounds the same as mine. 5 daytime managers, 1 lead and 3 new shift leads. Shift leads are getting the short straw though, sounds like they will be doing the bulk of duty.

Has anyone heard if night staff will be effected by these changes what is happening with  regards to premium payments avd payrise

Quote from: Mikoo on 31-01-23, 07:38AMIn my extra

Dot com stays as it is, however TM there are being offered the chance at redundancy, I guess this is to move other managers who would like to stay into there.

Taking dot com out of the picture  we have 9 managers and have to go down to 5. One daytime lead, no night lead.

Grocery - 1
Fresh - 1
CSD/PFS/Checkouts etc - 1
Stock/admin/wages/cash - 1
non food/clothing - 1

So four have to go. One is defo taking redundancy, I can see one of them accepting to drop down to shift lead but hard to call with the other two. I will be surprised if Grocery and Stock managers are moved because they are the only one's currently capable of doing those roles so it leaves Fresh, Non Food and Frontend to sort out.

Its not as bas as I was expecting providing the shift leaders who the SM chooses are decent. One of his previous picks for shift lead leaves a lot to be desired but if the right people are in the right place this should work. 

We've been told there is no voluntary redundancy.
So how is one of yours definitely taking it?

Quote from: Loki on 31-01-23, 07:59AMOver a decade ago they made majority of Team Leaders redundant... now they are streamlining managers and bringing back Team Leaders under a different name... "Shift Leaders" with far more responsibility without a proper hourly rate due to the basic rate being topped up by a "skills rate" that, much like the night premium, isn't subject to automatic pay increase during pay negotiations.

It's an absolute disgrace and exploitative beyond measure. Less Team Managers working alongside a handful of shift leaders... more responsibilities for less pay.

As for the remaining counters that will be closing... redundancies not being offered is something the Union should fight... the roles will be completely removed, loss of grade and completely new roles offered. Some affected may not be able to do other roles. Once again the company making every attempt to mask fire and rehire by stating that every colleague has the same title so redundancy not required. Absolute bovine.

I feel for all affected by this latest cull. But what infuriates me is that the company are adding more responsibilities on Team managers for less pay and the same goes for shift leaders.

The company also doing their utmost to screw over Lead Managers. Putting aside our gripes at times with management... they are employees that have been totally screwed year on year by this heartless company.

So much for the gratitude for all employees who worked through the pandemic... some of whom lost fellow colleagues during that time.

Never liked it when the pandemic was used in society as some sort of pecking order of merit. End of day everyone was dealt a different set of cards and had to get on with it.

As for doing a job with more responsibility and less pay. It's definitely c**p if someone finds themselves in that job position. But business is business and younger and more hungry people will come into the role. How long they stay in that role is a different matter and might move on after a few years through burn out. Be interesting what the turn over is in a Aldi store as I would say their management team are under more pressure than Tesco. Though I might be wrong on that assumption.

Dear colleagues

Today, we're announcing some proposed changes to our UK business to ensure we remain focused and competitive in a fast-changing market.

We continually review the way we operate to make sure we are meeting customers' needs and supporting colleagues in a sustainable way. This means doing more of what works and stopping or simplifying where we need to, so that we're running our business as efficiently as possible.

This also means making some difficult but necessary decisions, but will ensure we can continue to invest in the things that matter most for our customers and business. These proposed changes include:

Management changes

Over the last couple of years, we have started rolling out a new management structure in approximately 350 of our smaller Superstores, which better reflects the needs of our stores.
We have now taken the decision to extend this structure across all our larger Superstores and Extra stores.
We will introduce over 1,800 new Shift Leader roles in these stores, leading on the day-to-day operational duties on the shop floor.
We will also realign our manager roles to ensure they are all of equal size and complexity, focusing on overall store performance and supporting our colleagues to serve their customers, communities and planet a little better every day.
With the introduction of these new Shift Leader roles and realignment of management roles, we have taken the difficult decision to reduce the number of Lead and Team Managers in our large stores, impacting around 1,750 colleagues.
We are supporting colleagues impacted by these changes, who will have the option of moving into Shift Leader vacancies with financial support or taking redundancy.
Counter closures

We first announced changes to our counters back in 2019, and we've been reviewing them on an ongoing basis ever since.
We have seen a significant decrease in demand for our counters over the last few years, and our customers no longer say they are a significant reason for them to come in store and shop with us. Instead, they are choosing to buy from our wide range of great quality products available in our aisles.
The majority of our stores no longer operate any counters. In the small number of stores that do still have them, many are only open with reduced days and times – and we have strengthened our in-aisle ranges to ensure that customers can still find the meat, fish and deli products they want.
We have therefore decided to close our remaining counters and hot delis from 26 February, and the space will be repurposed to better reflect our customers' needs. All affected colleagues will be offered alternatives roles in store.
Where we can work with a third party to offer a counter experience in-store, we will continue to do so.
Our management changes will see us introduce as many roles as we're removing and there will be no redundancies as part of the changes to our counters.

In addition to the changes above, there are a small number of other localised changes across our business that we are talking to colleagues about. In our stores, this will include the closure of eight pharmacies, where there are other pharmacies within one mile of our store, moving overnight roles to the day time in 12 stores and reducing hours within some Post Offices. We are also removing a small number of roles in different functions of our Head Office and closing the Tesco Maintenance National Operating Centre (NOC) in Milton Keynes. Taking into account all the localised changes, we expect this to impact around 350 roles across the business.

Managers in teams that are affected in Head Office have already reached out to impacted colleagues to inform and support them. We will now enter a consultation process with USDAW on these proposals. Our priority is to support colleagues impacted by these changes and help them find alternative roles within our business. We currently have around 2,000 vacancies, in addition to the more than 1,800 new shift leader roles we will be introducing to stores.

These are difficult decisions to make, but they are necessary to ensure we remain focused on delivering value for our customers wherever we can as well as ensuring our store offer reflects what our customers value the most.

Quote from: SpudChucker1970 on 31-01-23, 01:06AM

Quote from: whatajoke2019 on 31-01-23, 12:25AMGot to lose a night TM and two from days in our SS.

Needless to say morale is rock bottom right now.

Exactly where the share price should go...

Just hope the 🤡 who came up with this dross go from drinking Möet to Stockie lemonade now 🤣

What's the issue? Most management tasks are now redundant, or will be very soon with simplification of processes and digital advances. Why pay for a salaried colleague who isn't needed. Also, I'm a Store Manager, it's just not hard to see the bigger picture here.

People don't like change. Never have, never will. Don't like it? Leave. Tesco won't miss you, just remember they pay your bills.

I would suggest you read your post again  you have just outlined your own future demise!

I recall the People Partners lack of empathy and compassion during previous culls of GA's facing redundancy, either accepting unfavourable/ unworkable changes or leave..."you know where the door is!"
The same ones who were crying and expecting support and compassion when they later faced the same fate!

As a store manager you are far from safe my friend! As you say simplification of processes and digital advances will make single store managers surplus to requirements! Looking at the bigger picture here, it will become commonplace to have just one store manager oversee and manage several stores in the area.
Meetings between teams in different stores will be on zoom.

Only the ones who can adapt and change will survive. All will be monitored on performance to deliver! What they get away with now in their own little sanctuaries, hiding behind their "yes boss" team will be removed, as other stores will not be so loyal or happy take the bullet to save your arse at the risk of a bad annual review!

The tiers of higher management, on big salaries and bonus's is definitely on their radar, then it will be..."Don't like it? Leave. Tesco won't miss you, just remember they pay YOUR bills."

Is this a voluntary or compulsory redundancy situation?

If there are only 4 TM roles available but 11 managers on site what happens if no one wants the shift keader role or redundancy? Will all managers have to reapply for remaining roles?

Has anyone had their 1-1 yet that can shed some light?