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You can build professional relationships with the team across a whole store no matter how large simply by treating everyone equally, most people prefer this.
I'm not sure exactly what sort of special procedures etc you are referring to as everything we do now as managers is about following process and routines, everything is available through the various help systems for any skills gaps and all managers have long since been made accountable for their own training to keep up to date.
As managers in todays company we are simply working as automatons implementing the corporate process. Personality and individuality is no longer required unfortunately as long as the cogs keep turning.

One of the biggest issues with team/line managers is that so many got promoted without proper training. At least that is the case for my store... so it doesn't bode well for a load of new shift leaders given I've already mentioned how one SL in my store doesn't even know how to do the basics yet might soon be expected to duty.

I guess the only sliver lining for managers in Extras is that its going to be store specific rather than company wide. So some might not have much change inflicted onto them.

Quote from: JJH on 26-01-23, 07:21PMWhat a real ar*whole thing to write.

 Nice one

Not great when the boot is on the other foot is it...

Security are going just going to be agency

It will be funny if we have all got ahead of ourselves and the only changes Tesco make are to the nightshift and night managers.

I do think its odd nothing has leaked to the press at all other than the Fish Counters closing. You would have thought that if Tesco were planning a cull of management the press would have covered it by now, we've been discussing this for weeks so its not like the theories have been a secret.

Unfortunately it's happening on Monday all projects will be visible from then including the new management structure which as I've said is a hard change and it's days

Deep dark,
How certain are you that all will be revealed on Monday?
What is your source?

Quote from: randomworker on 27-01-23, 03:43PM

Quote from: madness on 27-01-23, 02:14PM

Quote from: randomworker on 27-01-23, 10:46AMyour comment just highlights one of the biggest problems in Tescos old business model is that they have allowed too many managers to be in one store looking after their own department and not being flexible enough to meet the demands of competition who are more lean, mean and flexible

No one in our store gets to hide away or control one aspect of the store operations like they are a mini business owner.

Take away ownership and pride in running your own department well and you just create a culture of not my problem and why does it matter.

Possible yes but end of the day how much will it matter to the customer who is looking for value in their shop

I always put the colleague first and the customer 2nd. Look after the colleague right and they will look after the customer.  Do it the other way round and you will get short term gain but long term loss/pain

Store managers are getting briefed on Monday

Quote from: Night Owl on 27-01-23, 05:06PMDeep dark,
How certain are you that all will be revealed on Monday?
What is your source?

I can't tell you my source but it is happening and store managers will be briefed on Monday.
Store managers been told to clear there schedule for the day

45min call scheduled for 0900 Monday coming.

Remember the bulk of the management changes are only happening in superstores. Extras won't be hit until next year, they will want to make sure its going to work first so superstores will be the guinea pig.

Quote from: Mickymouse1962 on 27-01-23, 04:19PMSecurity are going just going to be agency

how do u know this

These restructures happen during the same week every year and it is always store specific.
My superstore had the new management restructure a couple of years ago. We now have 3 day managers covering
Grocery ( dry grocery, stock and admin, back door and warehouse)
fresh (dairy,produce,bakery)
Front end ( checkouts, customer service, cash office, pfs)
We now have shift leaders to run the shop covering duty
Not all stores in my group have this structure, it has been rolling out for a few years so I imagine the announcement could be a continuation of this but it will be store specific.
We still have a night team but at this time last year another store on our group lost theirs, this has also been happening for years so I imagine this will also continue.
Store managers won't find out till Monday what, if any, changes will be happening in their store

Quote from: Deep dark on 27-01-23, 04:43PMUnfortunately it's happening on Monday all projects will be visible from then including the new management structure which as I've said is a hard change and it's days

There is a piece of work related to customer colleagues landing on Monday. Something relating to managers is landing week 3. My source is another team manager in another store who was told this on Wednesday.

Quote from: Greygoose on 27-01-23, 06:04PMThese restructures happen during the same week every year and it is always store specific.
My superstore had the new management restructure a couple of years ago. We now have 3 day managers covering
Grocery ( dry grocery, stock and admin, back door and warehouse)
fresh (dairy,produce,bakery)
Front end ( checkouts, customer service, cash office, pfs)
We now have shift leaders to run the shop covering duty
Not all stores in my group have this structure, it has been rolling out for a few years so I imagine the announcement could be a continuation of this but it will be store specific.
We still have a night team but at this time last year another store on our group lost theirs, this has also been happening for years so I imagine this will also continue.
Store managers won't find out till Monday what, if any, changes will be happening in their store

What sales does your store take a week ? Also do you have .com ?

With all these cuts bet there won't be cheaper food in shops .

Quote from: Greygoose on 27-01-23, 06:04PMThese restructures happen during the same week every year and it is always store specific.
My superstore had the new management restructure a couple of years ago. We now have 3 day managers covering
Grocery ( dry grocery, stock and admin, back door and warehouse)
fresh (dairy,produce,bakery)
Front end ( checkouts, customer service, cash office, pfs)
We now have shift leaders to run the shop covering duty
Not all stores in my group have this structure, it has been rolling out for a few years so I imagine the announcement could be a continuation of this but it will be store specific.
We still have a night team but at this time last year another store on our group lost theirs, this has also been happening for years so I imagine this will also continue.
Store managers won't find out till Monday what, if any, changes will be happening in their store

Our structure (superstore) is very similar to this but we are already a twilight store, there are a few stores on our group with this structure. We have shift leaders that run the day to day and twilight fill.
No .com and no pfs.

Quote from: Hammer10 on 27-01-23, 07:10PMWith all these cuts bet there won't be cheaper food in shops .

With all these cuts, customers will be replenishing as they pick. They already serve themselves.
Wonder if they've received their new contract along with their club card vouchers.

Will be some changes this year. Bakery will go to bake off if not this time within 12 months. Also Customer Service desk and Wages. Anyone who can't see this is being extremely naive.
As few salaried colleagues as possible and skill required roles will be paid for the few hrs that is required for said task

Bakery won't go to bake off in stores that are making a profit ,bakery sales in scratch stores are up by 15 % or more on our group as soon as you go to bake off it goes the other way if not worse .

Quote from: rogerthedodger on 27-01-23, 08:24PMWill be some changes this year. Bakery will go to bake off if not this time within 12 months. Also Customer Service desk and Wages. Anyone who can't see this is being extremely naive.
As few salaried colleagues as possible and skill required roles will be paid for the few hrs that is required for said task

what do you mean.these two departments?

Does anyone actually have some facts around the situation of team managers?

Quote from: BenPvfc on 27-01-23, 06:13PM

Quote from: Greygoose on 27-01-23, 06:04PMThese restructures happen during the same week every year and it is always store specific.
My superstore had the new management restructure a couple of years ago. We now have 3 day managers covering
Grocery ( dry grocery, stock and admin, back door and warehouse)
fresh (dairy,produce,bakery)
Front end ( checkouts, customer service, cash office, pfs)
We now have shift leaders to run the shop covering duty
Not all stores in my group have this structure, it has been rolling out for a few years so I imagine the announcement could be a continuation of this but it will be store specific.
We still have a night team but at this time last year another store on our group lost theirs, this has also been happening for years so I imagine this will also continue.
Store managers won't find out till Monday what, if any, changes will be happening in their store

What sales does your store take a week ? Also do you have .com ?

I think it's irrelevant, because there are stores that have dot com that are on the new structure and there are stores without dot com on the old structure, likewise with sales.
The same thing applies with nights and twilight stores.
I don't know what the criteria is but it has been a gradual process taking place over the last few years.

It is store specific and no-one will have definitive answers for any structure changes for your specific store until Monday

Quote from: Davethebave on 27-01-23, 05:31PMStore managers are getting briefed on Monday

Might just be details of the payrise? Time will tell.