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Very Little Helps => Corona (temp) => Topic started by: Nomad on 03-02-21, 12:15PM

Title: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Nomad on 03-02-21, 12:15PM
Sorry bit of a rant but I just had to post this.

A member of my family is seriously CEV on account of multiple (CEV qualifying) medical conditions and age (70+).

Monday 01/02/21 BBC news, new jab centre opens 8 miles away, a very physically active TV personality of 70+ gets their jab, I'm happy for them.

Same day late post, I and family invited to make appointment on line or phone, I use phone as I want to get both on same day and as close as possible.  Best they can offer, regardless of day or time is 26 miles away (round trip of 52 mile and approx 2 hour driving time), desperate to get jab for CEV person the days & times offered are accepted, even though not really acceptable.

Late the same day text to me asking me to go online and make appointment for JUST myself at a venue only 6 miles away, no mention of the person who is seriously CEV, I am not.

Is anybody actually running the vaccination program  :question:

What experiences have you, family or friends had  :question:
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Ravvers on 03-02-21, 01:10PM
I haven't heard of any family or friends having to go that far , 26 miles is a joke ! Everyone I know have only had to go no more than 2 miles , in most cases just to their local GP .
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Nomad on 03-02-21, 02:21PM
I still can't get my head around the thinking that healthy 70+ year olds are the same priority as 70+ Clinically Extremely Vulnerable.
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: BUY TESLA STOCK on 03-02-21, 02:53PM
Let the professionals do the work.
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Nomad on 03-02-21, 04:26PM
Is that what you call them.
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: BUY TESLA STOCK on 03-02-21, 05:27PM
Maybe not then Nomad why are vaccines being hidden in fridges, vaccine centres not operating 24/7 and the army not brought in to speed up the process. Sturgeons answer just blame a few chemists and GPs.  £s for the few is all it is at the risk to everyone’s Health and safety.
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Katarn2000 on 03-02-21, 05:28PM
I don't trust the vaccines. Letting others test them out and see if there are too many risks of problems first. Good luck.
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Welshie on 03-02-21, 05:30PM
Where I am GPS are currently on 75-79 yr olds and vaccine centres have opened and 65-69yr olds can go on and book both doses in them . Which means perfectly healthy 65-69yr olds are getting vaccine before 70-74 yr old and the CEV and no word on second doses for the 80+ age group . 
It's all very well for people to say let the professionals do their job but if you already have limited life expectancy, spending the time you have not leaving the house or seeing family and friends is very sad .
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: londoner83 on 03-02-21, 07:01PM
Sadly even if you get both doses you still have to abide by the current locldown rules.
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: 80377494 on 03-02-21, 07:26PM
I have relatives in South Yorkshire. All over 70 years old have had their vaccination in their home town with the exception of my mother in law who has been told she must travel to Sheffield which is about 33 miles away.
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Welshie on 03-02-21, 10:45PM
Quote from: londoner83 on 03-02-21, 07:01PM
Sadly even if you get both doses you still have to abide by the current locldown rules.

Yes but at least they could go for a walk , go to the shop etc which currently they are advised not to do by consultant. 
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: notsofunny on 04-02-21, 12:59AM
Quote from: 80377494 on 03-02-21, 07:26PM
I have relatives in South Yorkshire. All over 70 years old have had their vaccination in their home town with the exception of my mother in law who has been told she must travel to Sheffield which is about 33 miles away.

I have a Uncle that refused to leave the house he is 84 and  Active After speaking to the Doctor it was decided that they would come out to his house to give him the Jab , so you could try and give the surgery a call to see if they will come out to your mother in law ,,
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: 80377494 on 04-02-21, 04:37AM
notsofunny

She has refused to go and is waiting to hear further from her GP.
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Redshoes on 04-02-21, 04:55AM
My son had vaccine last week and my daughter-in-law has her date 1 mile from where they live. My son because of his job and my daughter-in-law because she is CEV. There is no need to make an appointment. People are being contacted directly. My daughter in law had text first to say mid feb but had letter to say exact date and time along with where to go.
For our area there is a vaccine centre that just happens to be close to where we live. Pure chance.
First off, I would check that contact details are up to date. Was she invited to flu vaccine? We live in a small city.
My friend who lives in a major city has her date for vaccine this week, both her and husband are in early 70’s.
The local vaccine centres have dates and times sorted. If you go round the system you may be taking an appointment off someone else. I don’t know why you have not heard, questions do need to be asked but if appointments have already been issued in the local centres there may not be any other choice but to travel. It has been like that for people being tested. Some have gone local but others have been offered tests at a very long distance or by post. It seems to be different all the time so it’s going by availability on that day.
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Rogerbodger on 04-02-21, 08:00AM
I’m CEV and on the shielding list.

Still haven’t been offered my vaccination  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Ravvers on 04-02-21, 01:37PM
my lodgers dad had the vaccine at a GP's on 21 January , I think he was 80 - he was in a bad way health wise - cancer,lung disease & had a aneurysm & as he was so frail they couldn't operate to sort that out , anyway he had the vaccine at 12pm & at 2pm he dropped dead in front of her ! He had spent practically a whole year in lockdown knowing if he caught Covid -19 it would kill him & I think he must of been so anxious to get this jab so he could perhaps have some freedom again but it proved too much for him , 2 hours after having the jab though ! Broke my heart to hear my lodger come home - she was sobbing her heart out in my kitchen , I knew it had to be something to do with her dad so came downstairs to see if she was ok , just awful day that was  :(
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Welshie on 04-02-21, 04:42PM
That is very sad , have they related it to the jab . The anxiety about going out could have affected his blood pressure or so many variables that could have caused this .
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Ravvers on 04-02-21, 06:24PM
That was her  first reaction - that it was the vaccine - that mortified me as my sister in law was the nurse that gave the jab as she is a nurse at his GP's  but it was very likely the aneurysm as we was warned this was the way he most likely die , no post mortem is being done & the family have accepted that . I agree he must of been very anxious that day , it's a great shame as he was a lovely man , he used to look after my house whilst we was at work & look after the dog & other pets but because of Covid I hadn't seen him for a year . It's tragic he spent much of his last year indoors but this is happening to a lot of other families too obviously .
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Welshie on 04-02-21, 10:34PM
Yes it's very tough , my husband is CEV but at least we have each other , for people who live alone it must be hell .
I also think that as the top priority groups are elderly , extremely vulnerable or both , there will be lots of horror stories about the affect of the vaccine as by their definition these groups are going to die sooner . I hope it doesn't deter people from getting it .
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Ravvers on 05-02-21, 01:58PM
The medicine watchdog said today that a total of 143 Brits have died shortly after having their covid jab but the medicines & healthcare regulatory agency insisted the vaccines are safe & didn't play a role in the deaths. Officials say the majority of reported fatalities were in elderly people or people with underlying illness .Investigators said there is no suggestion the jab played a role in the deaths .Over 10 million Brits have now had their first dose of the jab so it is a very small number who have died shortly after, as in my lodgers dads case all would of been seriously ill beforehand .
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Nomad on 05-02-21, 04:04PM
Had vaccination today, 26 miles away.  Had to fill in a form, highly amused at one of the questions:

"Are you allergic to any of the ingredients  in Covid 19 vaccine ?", problem being at this point I don't know which of the approved vaccines I am to get, and even if I did I would not know what the ingredients are.  I very much doubt the staff were aware either, asking the question brought the reply "it's a stupid question".
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: grim up north on 05-02-21, 05:06PM
Has anyone had to take any time off for a Covid jab? Do you get paid?
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Pathfinder on 05-02-21, 06:57PM
When you have an appointment for the covid jab, your manger and you can agree to move your hours around for you to attend the jab .
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: notsofunny on 05-02-21, 11:40PM
When I got my call they asked me when I wanted it as did everyone that I know that has had it including frontline  line workers, so you should be booking it when your not working.  Unless you think you should get paid to help save yourself and others  8-)
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: adamski26 on 12-02-21, 12:58PM

2.24 What do I do if a colleague needs time off to attend a vaccination appointment?

Unpaid leave or Where the colleague chooses as a lifestyle break subject to the normal lifestyle break policy. The government’s programme of vaccination against Covid-19 is soon anticipated to extend to the next set of priority groups. If colleagues in these and all subsequent priority groups are required to attend a vaccination appointment during scheduled working hours, please support them to do this by rearranging their shifts and working hours as needed. In the limited cases where this is not possible, colleagues should be paid for time off needed to attend their appointment, with the approval of their
manager.
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: fannybawsthe3rd on 01-06-21, 06:11PM
Anyone know what the actual truth is surrounding time off for a bad reaction to the vaccine?  There's an argument in our store that you have to book the time off as either unpaid, holiday or work it back.  I understood that colleagues wouldn't be penalised for time off "sick" following a vaccine bad reaction and that this even applied to those who don't normally get paid for the 1st 3 days.  I and another colleague do get paid when off sick, but others are concerned that they are being told they will not get paid.
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: fscer on 01-06-21, 06:18PM
Its Covid related so free time off.
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: fannybawsthe3rd on 01-06-21, 06:35PM
Yep, as I thought but our managers are telling colleagues that they will not be paid and urging them to book it off as holiday, unpaid time off or work it back.  think the store manager is taking the proverbial!
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: penguin on 01-06-21, 06:43PM
Think you need to contact your people partner as we have a clear breach of company coronavirus policy here.
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Redshoes on 02-06-21, 08:30AM
A reaction to the vaccine is sick but from day one and not three. To get the vaccine done it's shift swap, holiday or unpaid. Most just pop out to get vaccine done and then come back to work.
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: SimonF12003 on 02-06-21, 07:55PM
Thats what I'm planning to do if I can't book my second jab on a day off
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 03-06-21, 08:24AM
Quote from: fannybawsthe3rd on 01-06-21, 06:35PM
Yep, as I thought but our managers are telling colleagues that they will not be paid and urging them to book it off as holiday, unpaid time off or work it back.  think the store manager is taking the proverbial!

This is what ours did too, was only after challenging it and taking to far higher past even useless pm that they said its paid, so ours has a back payment for a lot of colleagues who were forced unpaid.
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Baba_G on 22-06-21, 04:58AM
Hello. In our store the managers have demanded that we inform them when our jab is planned so they can make adjustments in case we call sick.  When challenged due to privacy policy and disclosing personal data and medical records we where informed that is a new Tesco policy.
Has anyone heard of this new policy as I can't find it on Ourtesco in any of the coronavirus updates or any other part ?

Thank you
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 22-06-21, 11:07AM
It would fall under the data policy as far as I know... But you don't have to actually tell them when your appointment is if its outside working hours, "they encourage you" to "to work with them" so to speak, on telling them so they can put you down as unpaid for hours or make you give time back for it... So if need be put it down to personal information violation and discrimination since they are only targeted people who are actively getting the vaccine  :D
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: NightAndDay on 22-06-21, 04:42PM
I would say there's a line beteeen reasonable request and GDPR violations, your manager asking when you're getting your jab is a very reasonable thing to ask. As much as managers break policy and the law, this is an example where you shouldn't try fight it.
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Baba_G on 23-06-21, 12:30AM
Managed to talk to my union area rep and he also knows nothing about a new policy regarding informing them so as far as them demanding well they can do that all they want  .  They tend to remember about policies when in suits them but i rememeberd that we are all employees and all have to follow policies. I'm not going to fight them on this it would be a loosing battle . Thank you
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Batmanjo on 23-06-21, 10:37AM
How on earth would they know if you hadn't contracted Covid whilst you were having your jab? as you could be sat next to someone with the virus whilst you are waiting and the point here would be do they want to break the Law forcing staff into work or is it they will not be paid, Policy seems to be the buzz word at the moment but they can never show you "Policy" no matter how much you ask.
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Baba_G on 16-12-21, 06:23PM
Hello

Has there been any update on the policy for the booster jab ? Is it still paid sick if you are unwell ? Does it still count towards your sickness absence % ? I tried looking but there seems to be no update
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 16-12-21, 06:37PM
should still be same as October 20th feedback thing -

"Feedback: is absence following the booster jab to be coded as sickness or using the COVID Code?
Response: if a colleague is unwell following a covid vaccination (including booster jabs), they should follow the normal absence process and notify the store they are absent. On returning to work they are required to have a RTW meeting, at which point the manager can choose to pay (at their discretion) the absence as COVID related sickness. Managers should fully understand the details of the symptoms, look a the colleagues absence history and make a reasonable judgement given the circumstances.

nothing else so far seems to of been mentioned with it or come down in the policies since on the update... Recommendations apart from that across yammer etc is that you speak to your manager apparently and try to arrange a shift swap or different days to work..  ???
Title: Re: Vaccination planning/progress
Post by: Baba_G on 16-12-21, 06:42PM
Thank you . Yeah they where asking for the same with the first booster jab it goes against sickness policy and doing a swap shift during xmas is out of the question .