hi i have just recieved bad news this morning that my aunt has died. unsure when the funeral will be but it will fall during my working week. does bereavement leave apply to aunt or will i have to take off as compassionate leave. want to know the facts before i go in as they would tell you anything. thank you
Sorry to hear off your loss Poppy. My understanding is that an Aunt doesn't fall into immediate family; however in my store, management have been really understanding towards colleques bereavement requests. I hope your store will be compassionate and give you the support you require during this difficult time for your family. God bless.
Poppy1
As Red Rock has stated you will not be eligible for bereavement leave for your aunt.
You will be offered compassionate leave, usually with the choice of unpaid, shift swap or holiday entitlement. You will have a welcome back, however your leave with be mitigating and therefor not included in any prior or future percentage calculations for absence.
thank you for your replies. a few years ago this happened when another aunt died manager made me take night off as unpaid, following week a collegue's uncle died same thing he had to use a holiday. a few weeks later after other people telling me i should have got it as bereavement i asked the personel manager who told me i should have got it as bereavment. the following week some union big wig was down on different business and had us all in canteen he asked if there was anything we wanted to ask about and this was brought up. he said it should have been bereavement and he went to my manager and i was given another night off and collegue was given holiday back. thats why i thought it would be bereavemnt leave.
http://www.verylittlehelps.com/wiki/index.php?title=Bereavement (http://www.verylittlehelps.com/wiki/index.php?title=Bereavement)
What should be taken into consideration is how strong the emotional link is between the bereaved and the deceased.
Thank you for all your comments will see manager later.
I lost two relatives this year (well they're all over 80 now) one blood uncle (mum's brother) and one non-blood aunt (dad's brother's wife). One funeral fell on a work day and the other didn't. In the case of the working day the day was taken as unpaid. The link above seems quite clear that this is in line with policy.
Members at the store in which I work receive a minimum of 2 - 3 days paid bereavement leave for an Aunt or Uncle. Again, could be more depending on the individual circumstances.
I once worked with someone who had lost her father-in-law. They came to ask if they were close as her husband had died many years before. I was able to confirm that she saw him daily so full leave was granted. The questions were asked but in a quiet way and the person involved never knew. It's a hard thing as people have asked for leave for a distant relative they have not seen in over twenty years, in that case two weeks is not reasonable to take the extended leave, so can only ever be done on a case by case basis. I have also worked with someone who has wanted time to go to the funeral of anyone she has ever spoken to, or so it seemed to others. I was granted leave when my brother-in-law died. It was granted for me to support my sister as it is known that we are close. I was also grated extended holiday as a follow up to this going down the line to help my sister. I have other sisters but this would not be the same for them as we don't see as much of each other and they have different family support.
Poppy,
Did you get the support you required during this difficult time?
yes red rock thank you got 2 days bereavement. i spoke to my rep who spoke to manager on my behalf and it was not a problem.
Poppy 1
My deepest condolences.
When you are feeling able could you inform us as to whether the bereavement leave was given without question or did you have a meeting to confirm your closeness with your aunt??
i spoke to my rep about the closeness with my aunt and he spoke to manager on my behalf. there was no issue.
Looking for some advice I was due to transfer to another store this week but my mum passed away last Tuesday I phoned my store and told them I would not be in for the rest of the week my mums funeral is tomorrow so I phoned My store yesturday and told them I would not be in for the rest of this week. I was supposed to be on holiday anyway my managers asked how I'm doing but as I was due to be transferred it should be the new store that I tell it I just got a email from the Tesco career Center whith the job that I was starting saying that After careful consideration, unfortunately we will not continue your application to the next stage. What are my options
First of all, my sincere condolences.
I hate to ask the following:
Tesco Career Centre?
Careful consideration?
Yes it where I applied for the job. That's what the email said
After careful consideration, unfortunately we will not continue your application to the next stage.
However, we do consider every application individually so if you find another role that you think would be right for you, please don't hesitate to get in touch again.
Click here to explore some other opportunities.
Best Regards, The Tesco Resourcing team.
The thing is I was told I woul be starting In 2-3 weeks then this happened the managers had agreed to let me go and transfer the new store is 40 minites closer to my home also
After considering what?
That response is automatically sent once you've been rejected on the stores recruitment site
After considering what? That is what I don't know the only thing that has changed is my mums death. Might have to speak to a rep but can't be bothered just now other things more important
The manager at the new store said he wanted me to start within 2-3 weeks whitch is this week so maybe cause what happen they filled the post.
Fr3ddy I know that as I have had the email before for other jobs I went for but this is the job I applied for and got offered and given a start date for.
If it's to do with your loss, then I would certainly speak with your rep.
If you applied through the career centre, and they have verbally or in person offered you the job, then I think you can take it that you have the job.
After a few weeks have passed, the store manager or PM gets an email asking for an update on the vacancies. The chances are, and you will need to clarify this with the new store, is that the selected EVERY applicant and rejected them to "close" the vacancy, not realising that you would get this email too.
I would ask your existing SM to contact your new store to clarify if this is what has happened, or you can reply to the email and it will get to the store via the Career Centre.
not something you should be dealing with this week, sorry for your loss
My condolences, jatbaws. You really don't need to have rubbish from tesco to deal with, at the moment.
Would it be possible to contact your new SM or PM to explain about your bereavement and confirm that you still expect to start at their store?
Definitely speak to a rep if you get further problems with this.
Thanks guys it not something I want to be bothered with at this time just gives me something else to worry about
Jatbaws
My deepest condolences to you and your family.
Give your rep the details and ask them to act on your behalf to ask questions and sort it for you.
Just a wee follow up it was a automated email when the post is filled still got my transfer
That's good to hear.
Not a great system that tesco have got there, tho.
Great news, well done on your transfer
I had that same email weeks after my last transfer.
My nan passed away on Friday morning. I rang duty on Friday afternoon to say I wouldn't be in Sat*rday or Sunday.( my manger is off sick) And that I need some bereavement time. I just want to know what to expect when I go back to work on Tuesday. I've only had 2 shifts off. I know 2 members of staff on a different department were made to make the hour back up or have holiday when there grandad passed away last month. I've work for the company for 7 years never had a days sick or anything in the pass. I just don't want to be given incorrect information when I go back. Being made to take it as unpaid or holiday thank you for your help
hi Sammy sorry for your loss. Nothing will happen. there is no set limit for time off in cases of bereavement as it depends on the individual but as a general rule they will pay up to 5 days. any after that is compassionate leave which is usually unpaid. The leave can be spit into full days or half days so that its as flexible for each person as much as possible. The individuals on other department you mentioned if correct in what you say should not have had it put as holiday or work back which is shocking if this occurred.
we had someone told they had to use holiday or take it unpaid/make time up,when their mother-in-law died,in the end they went sick.
Paid bereavement leave applies to parents of your partner, but may not cover grandparents.
It seems to vary from store to store depending on management
@trolleyboy96 I apologize, I deleted your last post by mistake. :(
They give you the day close relative or not or a sick line will go in. ;)
Grandparents are covered under the bereavement policy, I used it for my grandfather.
My aunt died we were very close, she was the only link we had to our dad who died 20 years ago. Told my line manager we had a bereavement, asked the her the bereavement policy she said it was up to her to decide if I got paid or not. I didn't get paid, I did not get asked how I wanted the time off, as paid/unpaid or could I work the time back.
No offer of condolences just an inconvenience for her to arrange cover, was my observation it's a shocking way to treat grieving people, I would have been better keeping my mouth shut and phoning in sick.
It's all decided by your manager. In theory your manager should know you best so is able to support those that need it and stop those who are working the system. Years ago I knew of someone who took two weeks off for some relative they had not seen in 20 years and they did not even attend the funeral. This was the way it was 20+ years ago. This was why it was given to a manager to decide. It will then depend on where the funeral is and how involved you are in arranging.
I was given a day to travel down, a day for the funeral and a day to travel back. Above and beyond that I was given the option to move my holiday that for me fell within that period. I did not ask for anything as it all fell within my holiday but it was offered to me and I accepted. I only needed to attend funeral and had did not have to do any organising or visiting solicitors etc but it was to support my twin sister, her husband died.
I have recently known of someone get just over two weeks off paid due to being the principle organisor. When they came back they were also supported with changes to shifts if needed.
The short answer is that there is a vast difference to what different people need so there is not a one for all answer. If you are not happy with what your manager has said you need to take it further. It will depend on you and your store, your options are Union or senior team. I would suggest you go to the best person you feel will support you and do battle for you.
My understanding is the bereavement policy is designed to give you time off for people close to you. Some people are closer to grandparents/aunts/uncles and see them daily/weekly as opposed to a father they haven't seen in decades. Therefore it's only right you should have bereavement leave if one sadly passes.
You need to speak open and honestly with your manager on your return and in the highly unlikely event leave is refused speak to your union rep.
So I had my meeting when I returned I was very open and honest with my manager. Was told I would get full pay for the time I was off, and that I didn't need to worry as the bereavement policy in place is 1 week, so I didn't need to worry about.
So today I opened my wages slip and I'm missing he 4 shifts that I had off and it's says unpaid sick hours at bottom of wage slip and the hours I was away. My store also owes me money from May's payment that I was short and still haven't been paid. I've put 3 wages query's in now. Was told it would be sorted and it still hasn't.
Surely bereavement isn't sickness and I should have been pay for it as well. When I went back my manager did also say to me that though I was off sick until 2 days before I went back. So could it just be a case of it was coded wrong? Am I in my right to ask for this money? Many thanks
So sorry to hear off your bereavement you should have been coded under different code in system and it wouldn't have touched your sick pay ect speak to your line manager if still don't get sorted then go higher if you cannot get sorted out in grievance, good luck.
hi can anyone help me I have never used anything like this before but I am totally gob smacked by the way I have been treated by Tesco cafe Manager.
My father-in-law passed away the week before I started at tesco I informed the manager of this started my shift did 2 and then day off on my day off my mother-in-law was admitted in to hospital with pneumonia and various other issues so I called the manager but they had finished for the day so I left a message, then on Thursday morning the manager called me and asked what had happened I explained not once did she ask when I would return to work but TERMINATED my position with immediate, effect how do I stand? I am owed 2 shifts I did also two 4 hour open and close shifts to find out I wont get paid for them.
HELP who do I go to who can help me.
How long have you been with the company?
Personally, I find it disgusting that Tesco have that to you, really is the lowest thing a company can do.
Durng my probation at my current employment (after leaving Tesco), my father was diagnosed with terminal cancer. They gave me the time off I needed to help my father with his treatment and didn't count it against me in any way during or at the end of my probation. I cannot praise them enough.
If only Tesco showed such compassion.
Tesco managers enjoy being k**b ends too much. Only saying!
I hate to ask but I will, was it actually Tesco or is the cafe 3rd party? They have there own rules, if it's tesco and your temp, if you've been there less than 12 weeks it's 7 days notice if longer than 12 weeks but still temp then 4 weeks notice. They can't adjust these rules.
No matter the company you are entitled to be paid for all hours worked, collect and collate your evidence, present them with copies and demand your monies or else.
The else being small claims court, CAB maybe able to help/advise you.
Quote from: trolleyboy96 on 28-03-18, 07:21PM
I hate to ask but I will, was it actually Tesco or is the cafe 3rd party? They have there own rules, if it's tesco and your temp, if you've been there less than 12 weeks it's 7 days notice if longer than 12 weeks but still temp then 4 weeks notice. They can't adjust these rules.
Tesco Cafe is a business owned by Tesco.
What about wife's grandparents...would I be covered for time off or not as when I asked they said I wasn't covered but when I went deeper into finding out some facts it states everyone's circumstances are different and should be dealt with accordingly!!! The policy isn't specific as to who you have time off for but more for who your closest to etc...I had to take time unpaid to be with my wife and kids and then had to work a day back just so I could go to the funeral which I thought was wrong in my opinion
A few years ago a manager came to ask me if a colleague was close to her father-in-law as her husband had died years before. I said yes, she saw him daily. She was given paid bereavement leave.
Families are strange things. I have known people take two weeks off for a relative who has died but did not go away to visit the family or even attend the funeral. It has to be case by case because of this, and as such it may not always be right. You can need more time for a best friend or family member who is not that close on the family tree because you see them daily but the grief might be greater than for a sister you have not seen for 30 years
It's a difficult time for those going through it but the time should be reserved for those grieving and not for those trying to get a few extra paid days off. Sad fact of life is that this does happen.
I'm not saying that you are trying it on, I'm just saying that it has to be case by case and if needed you should never have to fight for the time. It is the wrong time to do battle. Speak to the union or store manager.
I think the point is not everyone has the same family dynamics and managers should make decisions based on their understanding of the closeness of the deceased and bereaved. It's not a one size fits all policy. Although I do think our night manager taking a week off when his dog was put down was excessive. He got paid for a day of it and was complaining he didn't get paid for the full 5!
Quote from: Englands_finest on 29-03-18, 08:10AM
What about wife's grandparents...would I be covered for time off or not as when I asked they said I wasn't covered but when I went deeper into finding out some facts it states everyone's circumstances are different and should be dealt with accordingly!!! The policy isn't specific as to who you have time off for but more for who your closest to etc...I had to take time unpaid to be with my wife and kids and then had to work a day back just so I could go to the funeral which I thought was wrong in my opinion
Everyone's circumstances are different. In over 20 years I've never heard a request for paid leave for a partner's grandparents funeral.
From my experience they look at the overall picture , how close they are , how much contact you would have had with the deceased but also him much time you take off generally. Ie are you the sort of person who uses any excuse to take time off ? (Not aimed at OP just in general) . I do know of someone who got paid when they took a night off for their wife's grandmother's funeral . They arranged it in advance and explained the circumstances but this person didnt expect to get paid and was quite surprised they did however they hadnt had a says absence in 5 yrs .
Quote from: Rad on 04-04-18, 10:12AM
Everyone's circumstances are different. In over 20 years I've never heard a request for paid leave for a partner's grandparents funeral.
Indeed circumstances are different, I have had paid bereavement leave for my wife's Grandfather 3 days, 1 day on the day he passed away, 2 days, one on the funeral and the day after.
I had 5 days off for My Grandmother, and 5 for My Grandfather. I have also Taken 1 day for my Uncle.
To be fair I have always informed them of the Bereavement told them what I needed and never had an issue.
My stance has always been Relatives in law can qualify up to the same as Blood relatives, Especially if you have children because for example what might be my in law is my child's blood relative so while they too are suffering bereavement, Should I really be expected to pack them off to school at such a devastating time or leave them in anyone Else's care.
Bereavements are not just about the person who passes and their relationship to the employee, how bereavement affects the ones you love can compound how bereavement affects you, bereavement in my view is also about consoling and supporting those you love at such a devastating time.
A colleague I work with has just been told they will have to use a days holiday for their mothers funeral,as they have already had their 5 days bereavement (she took a week off prior to the funeral), is this correct?
Unfortunately yes, though having said that, it used to be down to the PM's discretion, to allow longer paid leave up to two weeks ???
If your friend is dealing with her mother's arrangements, estate etc....and is finding it hard to cope, she could go to her G.P. and ask to be signed off due to emotional stress.
That's what I've told her to do, but she is just to dam honest.
Too damn honest to admit that she is grieving for her mother, and finding it all too much ??? :(
Tell the lady that she should be thinking of her own needs, if she's struggling now, then six months down the line, it will catch up with her and the management will have little sympathy, as empathy is not high on tesco management recruitment criteria.
Surely most stores would expect a sick line for at least several weeks after the death of a parent . Maybe a more sympathetic approach by management would have been to suggest this rather than holidays, what complete b##tards !
management and sympathy ;D
Management are not heartless cold people, when susan sicknote is off every fourth friday on payday she will have little sympathy given and be dealt wth usually as severely as possible if she is obviously pulling sickies, but if the same person has a parent or child die you can be damn sure there wouldn't be a manager that doesn't act compasionately.
Check out the latest policy 'time away from work' there is actually a separate bit about paid leave for a funeral which appears to be counted separately to bereavement leave.
QuoteIf you want time off to attend the actual funeral of a friend
or relative, then please talk to your manager about it.
Under normal circumstances the time off will be paid,
although your manager may ask you to make up the time,
or change your hours or shift to accommodate it.
The above is a direct quote. I'd go back to your manager and quote this policy they can pay you on top of the 5 days you've already had.
My understanding is that they could pay you for 5 days, after which if you needed time off then it would be unpaid ,Nothing says they have to pay for anything over 5 days ,
this is what she has been told they would pay you for a relatives funeral,but only if it is part of the 5 days of bereavement pay you are entitled to,this is the maximum bereavement they now pay for full timers.they will give you more time off if required,but it must be unpaid/holiday/shift swap
What about attending a colleagues funeral. Should the management tell the attending colleagues that they MUST make back the hour or take it unpaid ??? ???
Quote from: kaled78 on 10-04-18, 07:30PM
this is what she has been told they would pay you for a relatives funeral,but only if it is part of the 5 days of bereavement pay you are entitled to,this is the maximum bereavement they now pay for full timers.they will give you more time off if required,but it must be unpaid/holiday/shift swap
I think it should stick to what it says in the book ,as to what you get paid for or not , that way we should have no one that can say he /she got paid for this or that .......
When I was at Sainsburys (I know boo hiss) I asked for a day off to go to my friends funeral after they were killed in a car crash, I even said I would take it unpaid.
My manager at the time offered me one hour out of my shift to attend it. I walked out on that shift and never went back. So it wouldn't surprise me if all the Supermarkets were the same.
Quote from: lucgeo on 10-04-18, 08:35PM
What about attending a colleagues funeral. Should the management tell the attending colleagues that they MUST make back the hour or take it unpaid ??? ???
Yes ,since a colleague is not in the list of who you get to take time off for or not ,, after all if the funeral was on a day that someone was off from work on, and they went , would they get time back or paid for it ? if not why ?
Quote from: Equalizer87 on 10-04-18, 08:45PM
When I was at Sainsburys (I know boo hiss) I asked for a day off to go to my friends funeral after they were killed in a car crash, I even said I would take it unpaid.
My manager at the time offered me one hour out of my shift to attend it. I walked out on that shift and never went back. So it wouldn't surprise me if all the Supermarkets were the same.
I think I would have also made the effort on my part to see if I could find someone to cover my shift.
Quote from: kaled78 on 09-04-18, 03:48PM
A colleague I work with has just been told they will have to use a days holiday for their mothers funeral,as they have already had their 5 days bereavement (she took a week off prior to the funeral), is this correct?
Whoever told your colleague this must either be an android or someone with serious mother issues. Tell your friend/colleague to get a line from the doctor covering her/him for as much time off as they need. Losing a parent is a big thing, it affects one deeply. The poster, Lucgeo, who said that if they don't take the time off that they need to now, it will catch up with them, never spoke a truer word - believe me.
And especially if they're the ones running around dealing with funeral costs/house clearances/solicitors, etc. All that's draining in itself, it doesn't half take its toll.
I'm the last person to credit Tesco with much, but in my experience of losing a parent not so long ago, I have to say they were more than good regarding time off, etc. FGS, they've just lost a parent, not a pet gerbil. They'll be all over the place emotionally. And quite rightfully so, it's a tough thing to have to come to terms with.
Who ever told them this is following what the rules are, after all we would all be the first ones to complain that someone got more than the other and it was not fair, If they had been given 1 day extra then What is to say that next time someone would not want or demand the same or more than the one day ?
Quote from: notsofunny on 10-04-18, 08:59PM
Quote from: lucgeo on 10-04-18, 08:35PM
What about attending a colleagues funeral. Should the management tell the attending colleagues that they MUST make back the hour or take it unpaid ??? ???
Yes ,since a colleague is not in the list of who you get to take time off for or not ,, after all if the funeral was on a day that someone was off from work on, and they went , would they get time back or paid for it ? if not why ?
In our store last year 2 colleagues died , staff were brought in from local stores so anyone who wanted to attend the funerals could , this included managers , no one was ask to make up time . There seems to be huge differences from store to store on how these things are handled
so are you saying that to clear up the huge differences no one should get paid ? and store managers should stick to the rules , so that no one gets upset about getting paid or not ?
Not at all , seems to depend on how compassionate the sm is , it's very upsetting flooring a serving colleague . I think it shows great leadership to organise cover in this situation and was very well handled in my store . Maybe other Sam's could follow
Quote from: gomezz on 10-04-18, 09:18PM
Quote from: Equalizer87 on 10-04-18, 08:45PM
When I was at Sainsburys (I know boo hiss) I asked for a day off to go to my friends funeral after they were killed in a car crash, I even said I would take it unpaid.
My manager at the time offered me one hour out of my shift to attend it. I walked out on that shift and never went back. So it wouldn't surprise me if all the Supermarkets were the same.
I think I would have also made the effort on my part to see if I could find someone to cover my shift.
That option had already been exhausted by that point.
so someone I work with has just had their father-in-law die,she works four days a week,is she right in thinking she is only allowed 2 days paid bereavement,then has to go unpaid or use holiday leave if she needs more time off?
Yeh that would be correct. Some Sm allow longer depending on circumstances but in general that's what she would get from company.
Look it up on our Tesco , it's the full working week or whatever it is an employee works in a week , and yes, in-laws are covered under that .
A working week, really ? That has changed a lot then since the start of this topic.
It's not that simple. You can have relatives that live round the corner or hundreds of miles away. You can have relatives that you are in constant contact with or have fallen out with years ago and have not talked to them in 30 years for example.
So, for a father-in-law you have not spoken to in 30 years you may only get the funeral time, if you are going. A father-in-law you were close to you may need more time.
I was given 3 days for my brother-in-law as I am close to my sister but as I had to travel I had two travel days and a day for the funeral and I chose to add holiday to this.
It should be case by case.
Do T*sco management have a list of who you talk to and don't talk to in your family then?
No matter who it is you can have as long off as you want. It can be stressful.
Quote from: grim up north on 14-01-19, 11:03AM
Do T*sco management have a list of who you talk to and don't talk to in your family then?
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Quote from: poppy1 on 07-11-15, 10:31AM
hi i have just recieved bad news this morning that my aunt has died. unsure when the funeral will be but it will fall during my working week. does bereavement leave apply to aunt or will i have to take off as compassionate leave. want to know the facts before i go in as they would tell you anything. thank you
you will be fine dont worry about it.
Err.....you do know that post was over 3 years ago 8-) 8-)
Sorry forrest, couldn't help myself :D :D
I have heard different reps quoting different timescales....2 days 3 days?? I have always understood it to be a week...pro rata, and that week should also include the day of the funeral. My understanding is it covers all 1st relatives, in laws and grandparents. More extended family is at the discretion of the manager as to whether paid or unpaid, as is authorising longer paid bereavement leave up to two weeks.
SM in Express.....I always have a chat with my colleague and ask them how much time they'd like off, be it now or later for the funeral. Grim Up North, yes I am pretty close to my direct team, and at that difficult time, I'd treat them with respect and expect them to do the same to me/their colleagues. Never had an issue so far. Stay honest and treat everyone fairly.
Always worth remembering how you would expect to be treated in a similar circumstance. Families are often no longer small units with many step-parents/kids etc. Bottom line should be if the person who is deceased was in close contact with you, you should get at least a week.
What's the policy regarding an uncle? What's the process of ringing in? And do you get paid?
Quote from: lucgeo on 14-01-19, 06:20PM
Err.....you do know that post was over 3 years ago 8-) 8-)
Sorry forrest, couldn't help myself :D :D
Didnt look sorry, why was it at the top of the listing? perhaps an auto lock of older threads would stop super necros.
Quote from: Mark calloway on 15-01-19, 12:55AM
What's the policy regarding an uncle? What's the process of ringing in? And do you get paid?
Be honest with it. If you were close or a family member really needs your support then tell your manager. If you arn't close and there isnt alot of support needed for someone then don't milk it and the times you actually need time off you will get it.
Is it the same 2/3 days if it was your father, a friend at work who's father has passed away was told 3 days. That does not seem long he was very upset at work is there no compassion from tesco.
Scroll up the page, answer from Ulsterboy #77 8-) 8-)
Having been to a friends funeral and a family members funeral in the last 30 days, it seems at the moment that at least 14 days is passing before funerals take place. Is approx 14 days becoming the norm ?
Can/is the bereavement leave split into two periods?
Nomad yes you can split your bereavement leave it's in the policy
I think about 2 weeks is the norm and can even be longer if its a burial
It was four weeks for a family member for me, leave was split to support. I also moved holiday to extend my time, all arranged before going off.
I am on bereavement leave for a week and my manager has said will ring a few days before to ask how i am . Will i be able to get more time off as its a very difficult time , what are my options
If you need more time you would be best to speak to your doctor and get a fit note. They will put the reason for being unable to work as grief and you won't have any problems with work. Sorry for your loss.
hi it is 5 days pro rata for all close relatives extended if appropiate after consultation with line manager (some people would be gretatly affected according to circumstatnces of death /relationship to deceased),
also i think death of your child is more. leave.
I would go off with stress the company doesn’t give a dam anymore.Look after yourself.
I lost a relative just yesterday, and now being told they may not be considered a ‘close relative’, despite the fact I’ve been this person’s carer for years.
It's shouldn't really be challenged but (from experience in our store) a lot of Asian workers go off with 3 to 4 different elderly relatives / cousins etc, same for friends and such, just explain that it's a relative of yours who's dear to you and to put it down for bereavement, if they don't then you can always challenge it, so don't back down on it, everyone has their interpretation and some are closer to some than others. You've always go equality to fall back on too if anyone else has had any "non" relatives pass and such as you should be also entitled to it.
QuoteUnder normal circumstances we would class immediate family as spouses, partners, parents, in-laws, siblings, children and grandparents, but we understand that not everyone has the same family situation, and therefore bereavement leave will be assessed on a case by case basis depending on your individual circumstances.
I think I heard there was new legislation being planned to be passed through regarding bereavement leave, at the moment, it's a bit lacking though.
Quote from: oldfashionedplayer on 19-06-20, 03:32AM
It's shouldn't really be challenged but (from experience in our store) a lot of Asian workers go off with 3 to 4 different elderly relatives / cousins etc, same for friends and such, just explain that it's a relative of yours who's dear to you and to put it down for bereavement, if they don't then you can always challenge it, so don't back down on it, everyone has their interpretation and some are closer to some than others. You've always go equality to fall back on too if anyone else has had any "non" relatives pass and such as you should be also entitled to it.
QuoteUnder normal circumstances we would class immediate family as spouses, partners, parents, in-laws, siblings, children and grandparents, but we understand that not everyone has the same family situation, and therefore bereavement leave will be assessed on a case by case basis depending on your individual circumstances.
Thank you, I was hoping it would be a case by case basis, and not just a case of where someone sits on your family tree! I have a very small family, only six of us left now that we’ve lost a family member this week, so this death has left a gaping hole, especially as some of us were his carers. I will give my manager a call later and see what information I can get.
I was lead to believe I had been issued compassionate leave for the days I took off in bereavement. I took off one week - three days when we found out the relative was near the end and then passed, and two days around the funeral. I’ve just checked my payslip and discovered all of it was coded as holiday, which I am very unhappy with, was not informed of, and did obviously did not agree with
"Led to believe" was this in writing or verbal and was/was not witnessed by anybody.
Quote from: Cinderella on 23-07-20, 08:44PM
I was lead to believe I had been issued compassionate leave for the days I took off in bereavement. I took off one week - three days when we found out the relative was near the end and then passed, and two days around the funeral. I’ve just checked my payslip and discovered all of it was coded as holiday, which I am very unhappy with, was not informed of, and did obviously did not agree with
In my experience a few years ago with my grandmother dying , any time taken when the person is ill/dying is hol/unpaid but time taken after someone close has died is bereavement the amount of paid bereavement depends on how close a relative and your manager.
Quote from: Cinderella on 23-07-20, 08:44PM
I was lead to believe I had been issued compassionate leave for the days I took off in bereavement. I took off one week - three days when we found out the relative was near the end and then passed, and two days around the funeral. I’ve just checked my payslip and discovered all of it was coded as holiday, which I am very unhappy with, was not informed of, and did obviously did not agree with
How many days do you work??
Was it a close relative that passed, or a friend?
The usual practice around bereavement, is a week off....pro rata.
If it was a close family member, then it's been coded as holiday in error? Speak to your manager.
If not, then compassionate leave is unpaid, holiday or work time back.
Yes, I come from an extremely small family (only six of us left) so we are all close. I was a carer for this particular relative, so it should be obvious to them that we were very close! I work five days a week, which is why I believed I had five days compassionate leave. I wouldn’t have minded them being unpaid, but I don’t appreciate holidays being used without my knowledge. I’ve been advised to submit a pay query form for it
Were you a recognised carer for your relative?
Close relatives, that warrant paid bereavement leave are categorised in being, grandparents, parents,spouse, children and in law/ common law relatives. These should all be listed under the online policies for people bereavement leave. ( I don't have access to these policies anymore ) others or extended paid leave are at the discretion of the PP.
If your deceased relative wasn't under the recognised family bereavement leave category, but you have it noted in your file, that you were their recognised carer, then paid leave should be given.
My sincere condolences for your loss.
Aunts and uncles should really be included in that list! My manager is aware I was one of the carers, as I couldn’t have shifts moved to certain days because of it. Pretty sure nothing was ever noted on my file though, as I found out recently my own health condition hasn’t been recorded, despite being declared at the beginning of my employment. They don’t keep records updated at all
Families and bereavement is not set in stone. You can have a sister you have not seen for 20 years but a cousin you meet weekly. It should be case by case and your situation sounds like it has been coded wrong. A mistake at a time that you don't need a mistake.
Quote from: Cinderella on 24-07-20, 11:52PM
Aunts and uncles should really be included in that list! My manager is aware I was one of the carers, as I couldn’t have shifts moved to certain days because of it. Pretty sure nothing was ever noted on my file though, as I found out recently my own health condition hasn’t been recorded, despite being declared at the beginning of my employment. They don’t keep records updated at all
Then the fact that your manager knew you were a carer, and didn't move your shifts, would be a recognition.
I really think it's a case, that when the exceptions were done, your manager wasn't present, and another has instructed the coding, not knowing the full facts. However you should have been given the choice beforehand, how you wanted to take the leave ( unpaid, holiday, shift swap, time back etc...)
I’m going to submit a pay query, with some details of how close the connection on the form. As we are such a small family, we are all close and in regular contact. There is not a day I don’t hear from them all!
Thank you for the support. This exact situation happened when I had a parent pass away also. I’m starting to wonder whether they code it as holiday, in the hopes you won’t care during a difficult time and will just let it go!
I understand why you think that but it sounds like a mistake. A mistake at a time when it is a bad time to have to deal with it. Some people find it hard to admit they have made a mistake but it happens to all of us. It can be rectified though.
Well, Tesco are refusing to budge on this. It’s lovely when the company you work for decides how close you are to your own family! I didn’t even get the option of any of it being unpaid, and I need those holidays for other things I need to take care of.
Most of my immediate family are already gone, I only have two people remaining that Tesco class as close family. So I guess I better start distancing from everyone else now, for fear of not being allowed leave should anything happen to them!
Tesco have been messing me around my entire employment. Pretty sick of it now.
Hello, I am in a situation at the moment where my Dad is extremely poorly due to cancer. It is a palliative situation and I've been told it's weeks rather than months. I work for Tesco part time alongside my other full time role. I need to take time off on compassionate grounds but with the new holiday period coming up I really don't want to use my holidays. What are my options?
hi cbatt, sorry to hear. you can take compassionate leave for 4-8wks or a lifestyle break upto 1 year if you needed longer off, however both would be unpaid, unless you used holiday. or else see your manager if they're any good they may offer you some alternatives. hope this helps
Doesn't help at all. From al the posts I've seen on here Tesco really couldn't give a monkeys. I could loose a whole months wage from this!
Depending on how much sickness you got , you could get a sick note from the doctor and be paid some at least .
I've seen people who were off for weeks for a bereavement others who came back in a few days.
It depends on where in the hierarchy you are, a CA wont get much sympathy be a senior manager and we are all expected to go into mourning for a few years.
Bereavement is usaly between 3 to 5 days and anymore usaly go through as holiday.
All these comments about Tesco not caring or getting it wrong,
It's not Tesco it's the managers putting in the information people seem to forget that
I've just got 2 weeks holiday and a couple of weeks paid compassionate leave granted
That's good you got sorted . It must be a horrible time and work is the last thing you need to be worrying about .
Evening all,
My Nan recently passed away and I had 4 days off in total (2 each week as I only work 2 days) which included time off for her funeral. I checked my payslip and I'm only getting paid for 1 day? I have contacted my manager who said I am only entitled to 1 day leave? Is this correct as I was made to think it was 5 days for some reason? Thanks
Firstly I'm sorry for the loss of your Nan :(
Always an emotional issue this one, the rule of thumb, as I always understood it, bereavement leave was one week, pro rata.
So on a 2 day week, it would be 2 day paid bereavement, regardless if the funeral was one of your shift days or not!
Paid bereavement leave can be extended, but only at the discretion of the PP.
Thank you for the reply.
I work a Monday and Tuesday and they have paid me my Tuesday shift (4.5 hours)
I asked my manager and they said I am only entitled to the one day? Do you suggest contacting Usdaw regarding this since they are not being much help to me?
Your manager should have discussed all options with you and should always put your well-being first,sounds a very compassionate soul.The policy is on ourtesco help section if you want to check it,your manager needs to do the same by the sound of it.Sorry for your loss I've recently been through this and couldn't fault my manager......and that's a first.
Sorry for your loss, These days it amazes me why stores do
not follow the rules the rules on our tesco are there for a reason that there is uniformity and fairness throughout the company.
@nicolerebecca19
If you're a union member, then by all means ask your rep to assist you with this, as usually an interjection from a rep will sort it out with the wages clerk, (if you still have one?) more quickly, then you arguing the toss with a manager!
Quote from: chris9997 on 15-10-21, 02:49AM
Sorry for your loss, These days it amazes me why stores do
not follow the rules the rules on our tesco are there for a reason that there is uniformity and fairness throughout the company.
Because they employ egotistical oddities as section managers who take great delight in inflicting as much emotional pain on people as they can get away with. This used to be negated by personnel managers who told them the actual policy now they have gone they make it up as they go along.
It's a minimum of 1 week paid leave, 2 if it were a parent.
However they can authorise more if they want to.
"Want to" :D
Not up to them it's about you,just go off sick.Joke of a place.
When my mother died a few months ago I was given 5 days paid (I work 5 days) and I took an extra week unpaid as I was given the choice of unpaid or using up holidays.
Please just read the policies. Everything is in there.
The problem with that is if you ask the average GA they will have no clue where to find them, not their fault its designed to be obscure.
Totally agree how unaccessible it is,just keeping the sense of your just a number and we will treat you as we please.Company and store level.
Nothing changes in this company does it, about five years ago a bloke in our store lost his Grandad, he found out during the shift, response from duty was "are you going to finish your shift as we are already thin on the ground today" not even sorry or are you alright etc, and yes he did go home to be with his family.
I'd love to know when the week off for losing grandparents was introduced. Its going back a few years but I only ever received a day off for the funeral of each of mine.
Now I know people who banked a few days from their leave to use it a few months later for ash scattering, conveniently the same time they'd previously had holiday leave refused for.
I have lost my mother a few days ago and have been signed off sick by my doctor. Can they use this type of absence as part of a disaplinary?
They can but you would hope it would be part of future absences rather than this one.
@BadHairDay
Please accept my condolences, forget Tesco, just concentrate on your own grieving and loss at this sad time.
A lot of managers will take this sickness into consideration, if it exceeds your sickness %...unfortunately a small minority may not!
A disciplinary should only be a next step in absences of a regular reason. A disciplinary based solely on an absence due to bereavement, should be treated with kid gloves, and rather support than discipline.
Your PP can authorise a longer paid absence at times, due to the individual circumstances, but nonetheless, your contracted week, is a paid bereavement absence ( to include funeral date) and not calculated in the absence %.
Can a manager make the decision not to pay me prior to the welcome back meeting? I thought they were supposed to discuss the options with me first regarding paying time back or taking as holiday etc? I've checked my payslip this morning and I've only been paid for one day out of the two days that I had for bereavement (I work two days a week so this was the equivalent of one week)
After I was off for two days with bereavement I was immediately then off for another four days due to catching Covid, When I returned to work I only had a welcome back meeting for the Covid absence and not for the bereavement so the option of taking the other day as unpaid was not ever discussed with me. I rely on my pay being correct every 4 weeks so I'm fuming, not back in until next week now. I can understand not paying somebody without their consent if they have gone AWOL for weeks but with something as sensitive as bereavement I am shocked! I also heard from staff that when I told them I wasn't going to be coming to work due to my grandad passing away he openly said in anger in front of others that he was going to only pay me for one day! I've only had a recent bad spate of absence in the 26 week window but going on years beyond that my attendance has been fine so I am also really annoyed at his decision to not pay it in the first place! I've worked in the company 20 years as well. Is there anything I can do other than just saying "yes ok just give it me in my next pay and I'll take it as holiday" because I don't think he's followed basic process here and also been really unprofessional is it worth reporting?
My sincere condolences on the loss of your grandad :(
Read the previous posts given above on this thread by other posters on answering the rules regarding bereavement.
Your 2 day week should have been paid, with the attendance for the funeral included in this.
Ensure the coding is correct for just the one day payment, as it's not sick leave coding. Check what coding is down for the unpaid day?
You are absolutely correct that you are entitled to a full week off with pay, it isn't included in you absence percentage as it isn't sickness.
As for your managers behaviour I'd complain to his manager informally first then formally if you're still unsatisfied which knowing Tesco you will be.