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Started by Nomad, 21-03-18, 10:49AM

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penguin

You can see it coming a mile off nightandday, it wont just be one store in Wales, that will just be a final test run to ensure it all works in a non head office location, would not surprise me if this is already being planned in for other express stores around the country, and maybe now the plan to change some Metros into Express starts to make sense, all this talk of them being used as convivence stores rather than for large shops leads nicely into converting them into non checkout stores in the coming years.
Do not let anyone tell you there is not a decent job and life beyond Tesco.

The Guvnor

https://news.sky.com/story/tesco-admits-exposure-to-hgv-driver-shortage-as-hauliers-warn-of-supply-crisis-12335508

Well well well? It would seem that the shortage of HGV driver's may have come home to roost?

Successive DC closures making many loyal staff redundant in the process, changes to T&C's, new ways of working using 3rd party hauliers to run DC's and a heavy reliance on imported labour in the mid 2000's have left vacant seats and unmanned lorries?

Contractors being used in some places which I have seen myself whilst out and about.

The Guvnor

Dungivnatoss

T2019sackallmanagers

I have a lorry license and the pay is appalling, so never took it as a career option.. Need to be £15 p/hr at least to get more people to do it.

The Guvnor

It is estimated by the DVLA that there are probably 60,000 to 70,000 holders of Vocational licences who are not using them for the very reason listed above.
The Guvnor

Dungivnatoss

Nomad

It was very short sighted of the major employers of HGV drivers to utilise foreign drivers instead of encouraging and participating in the training of UK persons wishing to become HGV drivers.
Nomad ( Forum Admin )
It's better to be up in arms than down on your knees.

NightAndDay

#480
Not being funny, but HGV driving lessons and tests aren't cheap, they're not easy fo drive, plenty of firms out there paying more than £50k a year for these positions, Tesco needs to be aware that they, just like everyone else are subject to the effects of supply and demand. Driving a lorry should pay more than sitting in Costa playing the big boy manager not doing any work.

gomezz

As a dot com van driver I have the utmost respect for HGV drivers who have to be a lot more skilful and bear a lot more responsibility than we do.  They are are worth at least double if not triple what we earn at least.
"The progress of the kart is more important than its direction"

oldfashionedplayer

Quote from: NightAndDay on 22-06-21, 10:02AM
Not being funny, but HGV driving lessons and tests aren't cheap, they're not easy fo drive, plenty of firms out there paying more than £50k a year for these positions, Tesco needs to be aware that they, just like everyone else are subject to the effects of supply and demand. Driving a lorry should pay more than sitting in Costa playing the big boy manager not doing any work.

We get older grocery drivers who are on like 17 to 21 an hour, and that's only reason thry continue, the ones that come in stobart and tesco now etc are usually all agency non English, the few that we get thst speak it when asked thry get £9 for driving it.... Which is c**p to be honest...

NightAndDay

They'd hire illegal immigrants on 50p per hour if they could get away with it, make no mistake all Tesco cares about are its profit margins.

lol its me

Remember when jobseekers where told to work without pay or lose unemployment benefits and tesco snapped them all up for  free labor for 3 months then dumped them, cant remember how long we did that. managers told normal staff they where told from head office they where not to give jobs to them after the 3 months, tesco had slave labor

NightAndDay

Not surprised, that was called the Workfare scheme by the way, one of the tory parties brilliant ideas bringing back slavery.

penguin

Was not just Tesco, loads of companies went in for Workfare, that does not excuse Tesco taking part of course, just pointing out plenty of other firms also made use of Workfare to get effectively free staff for a few months.
Do not let anyone tell you there is not a decent job and life beyond Tesco.

Nomad

#487
Drivers furious as Tesco starts charging drivers £99 deposit for fuel

QuoteDRIVERS have been left furious after the supermarket chain, Tesco said £99 deposits would be taken when visiting the petrol pump.

The chain has officially replaced a £1 pre-authorisation charge for a Pay at Pump customers.

It means drivers filling up at the supermarket's self-serve pumps, for either petrol and diesel, will now see up to £99 placed onto their card as a "deposit."

Don't use 'Pay at Pump'  :thumbup: Don't use tesco  :)
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Nomad

#488
No, Tesco isn't going to start charging you £99 to fill up with petrol

QuoteTesco says it will never charge you for more than the petrol you buy

They would never charge you twice for your shopping either,  8-)  Oh hang on a minute  8-)
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whatajoke2019

It's been on the cards for a while, wasn't it either Sainsbury's or Asda who tried this a couple of years ago and axed it due to a backlash... even though it's Visa/MasterCard/American Express who are bringing the rules in?

I guess one knock on effect will mean those customers who don't go for their fuel elsewhere might have to wait longer in PFS locations that are having their staffing levels slowly reduced?

grim up north

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/tesco-charge-99-deposit-fuel-20936522 £99 taken before you buy fuel - then refunded after. What could go wrong..?

lackofinterest

Quote from: Nomad on 01-07-21, 02:32PM
No, Tesco isn't going to start charging you £99 to fill up with petrol

QuoteTesco says it will never charge you for more than the petrol you buy

They would never charge you twice for your shopping either,  8-)  Oh hang on a minute  8-)
what tesco say and what tesco do is usually 2 completely different things

Nomad

#492
From link in grim up north's post.
QuoteSome card issuers might not allow partial authorisations below £99 and the advice then is to try another card.

Great, you've got one card, you've got no money on you but £70 in your account, you want £10 of fuel to get home and pumps won't let you have any.  Just the sort of end of day you want at 2345  :'(  >:(

Just the sort of thing that would make you want to use Tesco.   :D
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NightAndDay

This £99 holding baloney is just the banks increasing the amount of money they can use in the interim, they claim it's to help us budget better, but anyone with half a brain can see it's for their own personal gain.

Nomad

#494
I'm confused, quotes from articles.

QuoteIt means drivers filling up will see up to £99 ring fenced in their account.

QuoteA Tesco spokesman said: "Under these changes, the customer's bank will pre-authorise £99, with the unused amount released back to their account within the hour."
within the hour is NOT the same as immediately.
QuoteTesco told Manchester Evening News:

"We're definitely not taking a deposit. An amount up to £99 is ring fenced in the customers' account, with the unused sum released immediately."

So it's not a simple "have they got £99"
It is an "if yes, then take control of it."

Sounds like a deposit to me.
Nomad ( Forum Admin )
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Totot

Asda done that before and it is not end well.

Beside, normally, a transaction is a bind contract exchange between 2 party for goods or service.
When tesco said it is a "ring fence" of someone liquidity over period of time, should be it categorized as freezing someone liquidity that usually only bank can do that with an authorization from higher government body?

Like someone who did money laundry or corruption, and court told to freeze asset let say, bank account, regardless the value or time limit, and if without that, should be it classed as criminal?
As to limit/remove the purpose and right to do whatever you want with your own liquidity in certain amount of value and time? Let say got no access of £89 when only buy £10 worth of petrol for an hour?

If it is classed as a transaction, that mean the money gone from an account and back again as a....refund? So what kind of exchanges those £ 89 for, for goods or service? and which goods or service? And so the refund, what is for?

Nomad

https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/19418201.tesco-sainsburys-explain-need-pay-100-inside-fuel-stations/

Might be £100, might be less.
Should be refunded, maybe not.
Maybe returned immediately, maybe not.

The above article has so many "ifs, could, would and maybes" and no "will".  Makes it all as clear as mud.
Nomad ( Forum Admin )
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OvaSees

Quote from: NightAndDay on 01-07-21, 08:04PM
This £99 holding baloney is just the banks increasing the amount of money they can use in the interim, they claim it's to help us budget better, but anyone with half a brain can see it's for their own personal gain.
Exactly. Debit comes out immediately, refund takes up to 5 working days due to the arrangement with the banks over the use of the BACS system which is itself, allegedly, part of a wider 'fraud prevention' mechanism. They invest the money in the NIKKEI during those 5 days to make a quick return before giving your money back.

Tesco is complicit however by agreeing to this as they know the police hardly consider drive-offs to even be a crime these days so this is Tesco introducing a punitive measure to its honest customers already hard pressed by increasing prices, especially at the pumps. Plus there's bound to be some way they are utilising this to offset handling fees and other charges.

Another anti-consumer, profit-centric decision which incentivises rertailers to move to unmanned kiosks like ASDA with electronic payment only - this may only apply to pay-at-pump (for now) but the problem with this is that unless you have £100 in your account you won't be able to fuel by paying at a kiosk which is becoming increasingly scarce...

Nomad

SHOP CLOSURE Major Glasgow Tesco store set to shut permanently after making losses


QuoteIt emerged that the supermarket firm's east end Parkhead branch is set to close amid claims negotiations with landlords collapsed.
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whatajoke2019

https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/stores/amazon-hires-tesco-veteran-tony-hoggett-to-head-up-physical-stores-operation/657874.article

Wonder how many peope they could employ on the shop floor for whoever replaces him and their annual salary  :D

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