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Team Managers about to get demoted-lose pay!

Started by markwinters, 29-12-22, 11:06AM

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SpudChucker1970

#1400
Quote from: Jamesowhiteo on 28-03-23, 07:39PMLarge pilot stores - Monday 27 February (Week 1)
We have been trialling some changes to the potential reduction scan (PRS) and review process.
This trial will now be extended to include Groups 7, 24, 43 and store 2202. Group 23 and store 3213 will continue this trial.
Why are we doing this?
It is our responsibility to ensure we never sell a product which is out of date and harmful to health. 'Use by dates are used to protect food safety, they are generally found on high-risk foods which require refrigeration, such as fish, meat, prepared foods and dairy. This change will reduce the risk of displaying out of code
products.
What does this mean for my store?
Operational Impact
• Timing changes:
First reduction scan will move from 5pm on the evening before product expiry to 6am on the morning of expiry
Complete removal of first and second reviews
FIna review wi move trom om to bm
• PRS window will be extended so products can be scanned until 8pm on day of expiry
All products will receive a reduction label at PRS apart from Fresh Bakery
All products should be moved to the reduction cabinet at PRS
People impact
The responsibility for the PRS routine will move from stock control to the fresh departments
All colleagues should complete the 'preventing out of code training and validation on Click & Learn

This is great, thank you. I wonder if any of the CAs and Shifties that think they know everything will now say that got it wrong and apologise  :D 

Donahue, GotAClubcard and FirstLady, where you at? What do you have to say to this? Looks like your extra special store manager is so in the loop doesn't it? Either that or he's lying to you. Either way, thanks

SpudChucker1970

#1401
How stupid do you look now?

SpudChucker1970

Quote from: CaramelBunny on 28-03-23, 08:54PMThey were always going to move job14 onto the fresh departments at some point and I had been told it was coming but my understanding was the trial hasn't given any sort of impact results yet.

 Problem is  in my opinion, if the heatmap's saying Bread is only supposed to have one person on from 6am to 1pm who will do the filling while Wendy spends two hours pulling all out of codes off? (bare in mind Bread delivery usually doesn't land until 6.30) then dot com availability is effected and targets don't get hit.

by the way Stock Control are not losing any staff over this. There is going to be an increase in counts and other routines. So rather than 30 odd provisions everyday there will now be 70 etc. 

I suspect Stock colleagues will be thrilled to see the back of date scan.

Stock control won't be a department as such anymore. They are just Tesco Colleagues, who will spend about 1-2 hours a day at most to do some counts, and then they will be replen or tills. Most primary skilled replen staff will be up skilled on stock routines as a secondary task to aid with this. No more stock controllers thinking they can evade doing some work.

Checkout Superstar

Quote from: SpudChucker1970 on 28-03-23, 09:50PMHow stupid do you look now?

I don't look stupid. My store manager said its not being rolled out in Extras.

If this was a long plan the stock control managers would have been taken out in the upcoming restructure. They haven't been
..

SpudChucker1970

Quote from: First Lady on 28-03-23, 10:09PM
Quote from: SpudChucker1970 on 28-03-23, 09:50PMHow stupid do you look now?

I don't look stupid. My store manager said its not being rolled out in Extras.

If this was a long plan the stock control managers would have been taken out in the upcoming restructure. They haven't been
..

They won't be stock managers. They will go to pure headcount and team managers. Read through all of my historic posts and see how accurate I've been with everything in the past. You have no idea who I am.

It will 100% be rolled out in extras.

Checkout Superstar

Quote from: SpudChucker1970 on 28-03-23, 10:24PM
Quote from: First Lady on 28-03-23, 10:09PM
Quote from: SpudChucker1970 on 28-03-23, 09:50PMHow stupid do you look now?

I don't look stupid. My store manager said its not being rolled out in Extras.

If this was a long plan the stock control managers would have been taken out in the upcoming restructure. They haven't been
..

They won't be stock managers. They will go to pure headcount and team managers. Read through all of my historic posts and see how accurate I've been with everything in the past. You have no idea who I am.

It will 100% be rolled out in extras.

 :D You have only made a handful of posts and all have been on the last few pages.

If you really believe that Tesco who have just gone through manager consultations which has seen them keep stock control managers in superstores and extras are now planning to ditch them in September I'll call you out as deluded.

CaramelBunny

#1406
Quote from: SpudChucker1970 on 28-03-23, 09:57PM
Quote from: CaramelBunny on 28-03-23, 08:54PMThey were always going to move job14 onto the fresh departments at some point and I had been told it was coming but my understanding was the trial hasn't given any sort of impact results yet.

 Problem is  in my opinion, if the heatmap's saying Bread is only supposed to have one person on from 6am to 1pm who will do the filling while Wendy spends two hours pulling all out of codes off? (bare in mind Bread delivery usually doesn't land until 6.30) then dot com availability is effected and targets don't get hit.

by the way Stock Control are not losing any staff over this. There is going to be an increase in counts and other routines. So rather than 30 odd provisions everyday there will now be 70 etc. 

I suspect Stock colleagues will be thrilled to see the back of date scan.

Stock control won't be a department as such anymore. They are just Tesco Colleagues, who will spend about 1-2 hours a day at most to do some counts, and then they will be replen or tills. Most primary skilled replen staff will be up skilled on stock routines as a secondary task to aid with this. No more stock controllers thinking they can evade doing some work.

Not sure what your beef with stock colleagues is but their job is usually a thankless task. Like I said, I suspect these ''bone idol'' lay abouts will be more than happy to see fresh take on all the date scanning. No more spending hours raking through smelly cheeses and split yogurts.  ;)

CaramelBunny

Quote from: First Lady on 28-03-23, 10:09PM
Quote from: SpudChucker1970 on 28-03-23, 09:50PMHow stupid do you look now?

I don't look stupid. My store manager said its not being rolled out in Extras.

If this was a long plan the stock control managers would have been taken out in the upcoming restructure. They haven't been
..

Agree. If the stock/admin managers were at risk of losing their jobs they would have gone in the consultations.

In my Extra we have managers for the following under the restructer

1 stock/admin/cash office
1 Front end/csd/pfs/trolleys
1 non food
1 meat/dairy/bread
1 produce/bakery
1 dry grocery/bws/backdoor

Speaking of Trolleys. If Tesco really wanted to save money why haven't they put the pounds back into the trolleys. It would save them 90 hours a week.

madness

Quote from: SpudChucker1970 on 28-03-23, 09:46PM
Quote from: Jamesowhiteo on 28-03-23, 07:39PMLarge pilot stores - Monday 27 February (Week 1)
We have been trialling some changes to the potential reduction scan (PRS) and review process.
This trial will now be extended to include Groups 7, 24, 43 and store 2202. Group 23 and store 3213 will continue this trial.
Why are we doing this?
It is our responsibility to ensure we never sell a product which is out of date and harmful to health. 'Use by dates are used to protect food safety, they are generally found on high-risk foods which require refrigeration, such as fish, meat, prepared foods and dairy. This change will reduce the risk of displaying out of code
products.
What does this mean for my store?
Operational Impact
• Timing changes:
First reduction scan will move from 5pm on the evening before product expiry to 6am on the morning of expiry
Complete removal of first and second reviews
FIna review wi move trom om to bm
• PRS window will be extended so products can be scanned until 8pm on day of expiry
All products will receive a reduction label at PRS apart from Fresh Bakery
All products should be moved to the reduction cabinet at PRS
People impact
The responsibility for the PRS routine will move from stock control to the fresh departments
All colleagues should complete the 'preventing out of code training and validation on Click & Learn

This is great, thank you. I wonder if any of the CAs and Shifties that think they know everything will now say that got it wrong and apologise  :D 

Donahue, GotAClubcard and FirstLady, where you at? What do you have to say to this? Looks like your extra special store manager is so in the loop doesn't it? Either that or he's lying to you. Either way, thanks

Head office finally learning that no one buys celery with a 1 or 2p reduction. Go big once and get rid of it and clear the decks.

Vivienne

#1409
Quote from: SpudChucker1970 on 28-03-23, 09:57PMNo more stock controllers thinking they can evade doing some work.


Excuse me!!! I work on stock control and the very idea that I 'evade' doing any work is so rude. If anything I don't have the time to do everything. I do 4 hour shifts and in those shifts I will have 150 counts, gap scans - which have to be done before Team 5 at 9.30am, lows/overs - depending on the days as well as all the non food stock chasing up. On top of all that I am expected to date scan cooked meats, bacon, eggs, cheese, yogurts and dry grocery. So you want the truth from a stock controller? I am more than happy to wave good bye to date checks. They are the most draining jobs in the store. Good luck to the  fresh colleagues who will have to take all this on as well as still managing all their other tasks. I feel for you.

lucgeo

You forgot the first in line for red calls, all hands and any other department that calls for support! Then once they're all on track, back to trying to catch up on your own routines with zero support as no one available who's trained to do it  :-X

oldfashionedplayer

with the date checking bit, do you mean just like nights and days with filling and checking? if so this should be done anyhow,they've just made it so that nothing gets taken off at night and instead take off same day and day ahead (if more on shelf), to be reduced to reduce waste, least at ours under new trial lol.

Ours don't touch checkouts still so far, but even with this change we're still finding still ours not reducing stuff and just letting it go to waste or throwing it back out instead  8-)  even when ours have had a task stripped from them and given to nights, they aren't reducing it (their first job of the day), and instead just throw it back out to end up on waste.. (or a week out of date)  ???

Vivienne

#1412
@lucgeo - exactly!

@oldfashionedplayer - our neighbouring store is involved in the trial they have had similar results. Their waste has increased and they went from being one of the better one's in the group to now being one of the worst. Out of code items are constantly finding its way back onto the shelf days out of date. So much so I believe they are now under investigation.

 One of the issues in my Extra is that the Fresh Manager will always blame Job14 lot for her own departments failures to do reductions correctly or work out of date stock in time. With Job14 potentially being removed and it all being on her own staff she will quickly find out her scapegoats have disappeared. That is one positive.

londoner83

Agree moving the routine solely onto one area should end the constant blame game between departments.

 However my worry is with schedule to workload you could end up with random colleagues tasked with code checking rather than being a consistent colleague. If you are normally a cashier would you really do a full front to back code check in the single hour you are scheduled to Fresh for?

ForCryingOutLoud

Quote from: SpudChucker1970 on 28-03-23, 10:24PM
Quote from: First Lady on 28-03-23, 10:09PM
Quote from: SpudChucker1970 on 28-03-23, 09:50PMHow stupid do you look now?

I don't look stupid. My store manager said its not being rolled out in Extras.

If this was a long plan the stock control managers would have been taken out in the upcoming restructure. They haven't been
..

They won't be stock managers. They will go to pure headcount and team managers. Read through all of my historic posts and see how accurate I've been with everything in the past. You have no idea who I am.

It will 100% be rolled out in extras.
You're Ronnie Pickering ;)

Vitascope


5fdp


FarmerFred

Quote from: londoner83 on 29-03-23, 09:35AMAgree moving the routine solely onto one area should end the constant blame game between departments.

 However my worry is with schedule to workload you could end up with random colleagues tasked with code checking rather than being a consistent colleague. If you are normally a cashier would you really do a full front to back code check in the single hour you are scheduled to Fresh for?
As I understand it, department routines will still be scheduled for someone on their primary department. Those being scheduled in for an hour or two would normally just be filling.

6xpl89

To whoever updates the redundancy calculator. It's wrong because it's calculating pilon as 8 weeks, when in reality Tesco pay up to 12 weeks notice if you have that many years in service

Oscar Manchester

Hi I hear 78% of tesco workers are 25 years old or younger..what hope us oldies..any advice

madness

Got any more of a question than a partial rant?

Redshoes

#1421
Quote from: Oscar Manchester on 30-03-23, 07:43PMHi I hear 78% of tesco workers are 25 years old or younger..what hope us oldies..any advice

I think that may depend on format and it could also be the area you live in. A random fact like that does not help. I have two people who work for me that are 70 years old, one male and one female. I have others that have retired from another career and just want a part time job into late retirement. I do however have mostly women in my team. Every single time I recruit I say we need more males within the team but the majority that apply are women. When you look at the shop floor workers that is more mixed. I would say 50/50 male female mix. Again, some younger but also some past retirement age. Very mixed experience. Some ex-managers from other companies. An ex-teacher, an ex-nurse, an ex-police officer. A lot of off shore that were made redundant. All mixed in with students that will pass through or stay.

Nomad

Quote from: 6xpl89 on 30-03-23, 02:12PMTo whoever updates the redundancy calculator. It's wrong because it's calculating pilon as 8 weeks, when in reality Tesco pay up to 12 weeks notice if you have that many years in service

Can anybody enlighten me as to the criteria for how many weeks notice/PILON that is given per service years ?
Nomad ( Forum Admin )
It's better to be up in arms than down on your knees.

6xpl89

#1423
Policy of notice that Tesco has to give you is as follows:

6 months to 4 years service = 4 weeks pay
5 years service = 5 weeks pay
6 years service = 6 weeks pay

Etc, up to a maximum of 12 weeks pay for 12 years service and above.

QuoteAdmin, thank you.

KELTIKKING

Does anyone know what is the latest date I can tell my manager that I want to take redundancy payment

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