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Quote from: Gknowsbest on 01-03-23, 03:22PMWhere do I find the minutes of the Usdaw meetings for this process?

Thank you 😊

Colleague help under collective consultation

Been told I'm staying, gutted 

I was told today that I'd contributed zero. No joke. This is a toxic and shameful workplace and business. Despite my distress and despair at being belittled and shamed I will view this as a gift.

Quote from: Realistic on 01-03-23, 02:18PMSo been told not selected to stay but only at risk of redundancy as if anyone hands in their notice before 27th of April next one on the scoring system gets their redundancy withdrawn and is then selected to stay.
Typical of Tesco
Step 1 soft changes to panic as many colleagues as possible to move or leave
Step 2 hard changes dangling redundancy but waiting to see how many selected to stay managers go and pull from pool of managers at risk.
If this was colleagues it would be 28 days from start of consultation to redundancy notice.
This has been going on since January and we wont find out until 27th February if we are going.
Tesco is f****ng managers over and dont give a f***. As for the non union sitting in the corner like nodding dogs, they should be punted and a real union brought in

Aren't the new shift leader roles starting week 10 which is two weeks after the 27th April so how does that work? 

So how with this in mind will those applying for shift leader be told a) if/when they are successful, and b) when they actually start which is down as week 10..

Quote from: ForCryingOutLoud on 01-03-23, 05:42PMI was told today that I'd contributed zero. No joke. This is a toxic and shameful workplace and business. Despite my distress and despair at being belittled and shamed I will view this as a gift.

Shocking to be spoken to like that.

I've got a good idea of who is staying and who isn't from the reactions. Sadly one of the most incompetent appears to have been successful purely off the back of another departments failings making their own look good.

Majority in my store now know but have been told if staying they might not be going to their current department.

Also something interesting I heard today. Checkout Team Support will be reduced from 6pm each evening. This is due to the expansion of self serve. Only two normal tills will be open after 6pm.

I'm an Extra so this is an odd move but it will mean one less Team Support member. Has anyone else heard this?

Well it won't work in the busier periods of the year like November/December but I can see some logic in it. Our self service section is working better than expected and I would imagine the new shift leader will pick up any issues with checkouts on an evening going forward. 

Quote from: ForCryingOutLoud on 01-03-23, 05:42PMI was told today that I'd contributed zero. No joke. This is a toxic and shameful workplace and business. Despite my distress and despair at being belittled and shamed I will view this as a gift.

Just go off sick with work related stress! F##k UM they don't deserve any loyalty the way they treat people! 🤬😡

Quote from: Realistic on 01-03-23, 02:18PMSo been told not selected to stay but only at risk of redundancy as if anyone hands in their notice before 27th of April next one on the scoring system gets their redundancy withdrawn and is then selected to stay.
Typical of Tesco
Step 1 soft changes to panic as many colleagues as possible to move or leave
Step 2 hard changes dangling redundancy but waiting to see how many selected to stay managers go and pull from pool of managers at risk.
If this was colleagues it would be 28 days from start of consultation to redundancy notice.
This has been going on since January and we wont find out until 27th February if we are going.
Tesco is f****ng managers over and dont give a f***. As for the non union sitting in the corner like nodding dogs, they should be punted and a real union brought in

I'm really confused. Are you saying you've been offered a shift leader role? because if so then redundancy is an option in that case. You need your union rep with you asap

Quote from: AlwaysSearching on 01-03-23, 06:25PMAlso something interesting I heard today. Checkout Team Support will be reduced from 6pm each evening. This is due to the expansion of self serve. Only two normal tills will be open after 6pm.

I'm an Extra so this is an odd move but it will mean one less Team Support member. Has anyone else heard this?

This is happening. Will probably be announced soonish. Rather than having Team Support in on an evening there will be an allocated runner to do put backs etc

Aren't heatmaps due in week 4 or 5 too? What Tesco needs is a long period of calm and stability. Enough of more changes before we have time to digest the last lot

Quote from: AlwaysSearching on 01-03-23, 06:25PMAlso something interesting I heard today. Checkout Team Support will be reduced from 6pm each evening. This is due to the expansion of self serve. Only two normal tills will be open after 6pm.

I'm an Extra so this is an odd move but it will mean one less Team Support member. Has anyone else heard this?

It's getting ridiculous now. I hope this isn't the case across the board and will be store specific. Our store is busy into the evening until at least 10pm, we usually have 6-7 tills open until 10. They really seem to want to enhance the split between the mornings and evenings, mornings are quiet but have plenty of staff, evenings are simply left to tide over (then get whinged at the next day by people who never stay a second after 5pm and so don't see the problems).

Can't see how they will get everyone through the list pick fill bend over training when managers are either leaving or playing musical chairs.

Madness- pick. Fill, serve training started in July last year with 1 year to complete.....
If your managers have only just started it could be evidence as to why they have scored poorly in the restructure.

there's been like targets of what 24% or something by this time then like 80% or something by may-ish? then 100% by time it comes in... so plenty will do that to be honest.. ours definitely has done that anyhow, got training that was overdue from october for legal refreshers.. so we are FAR behind, got 0 chance of getting it done at this rate by scheduler time 

Managers didn't score poorly. The scores were falsified dependant on individuals preference. For the majority this worked well. For the rest, it was dependent on whether they socialised with SM outside of work

Does anyone know where I stand regarding lead team position.  There are two of us in our store and my colleague Scored higher. He has been been put in the lead role and I was told I was at risk of redundancy. The one who got the job has found another job and is handing his notice in. Do I have to take the job and lose redundancy if he leaves?

That scenario is covered in one of the collective consultation summaries but I can't recall which. It could be the save to invest q&a that's on the collective consultation page.

Hi. If I am a low score and am at risk of redundancy but a high score wants redundancy can they stop me accepting redundancy and let the high score take it even tho I was low.
Also has anyone seen the criteria score sheet for their own scores. And what the actual criteria questions were the other than what's on the meeting notes. Are we able to challenge our score and see evidence of why/how we scored.

Quote from: Gracepaul on 02-03-23, 10:09AMDoes anyone know where I stand regarding lead team position.  There are two of us in our store and my colleague Scored higher. He has been been put in the lead role and I was told I was at risk of redundancy. The one who got the job has found another job and is handing his notice in. Do I have to take the job and lose redundancy if he leaves?

There was a similar scenario when the team leaders were being made redundant a few years back! One was in consultation for redundancy, but another who wasn't under threat gave in their notice during the consultation period. As their last day was prior to the end of consultation period, the team leader facing redundancy was taken out of consultation, as their position was no longer at risk!

There was a lot of arguing on the technicalities of the situation, but Tesco's stance was the hours had become available prior to the end of consultation date, therefore the colleague's hours were no longer under threat!

I'm hoping the rules are unchanged so...If you want redundancy and the other manager has not formally given his notice, or is able to hold back his resignation to leave  after the end of consultation,  then you could both leave.

He has a start date for his new job in 4 weeks so handing his notice in this weekend.

@gracepaul surely your store manager could answer that question

I wouldn't trust the word of any store manager giving advice on this! Firstly a lot don't have a clue themselves of the rules, secondly they are under pressure to keep redundancies and payoffs to a minimum whilst maintaining all the legalities! How they achieve that is left to their own devices 

You have a designated consultant who deals with all these questions, and is expected to remain neutral in keeping you informed on the rules.

When exactly is the last day of consultation? If it's a later date than the other manager's leaving date, then that should work in your favour, as until they actually leave, they're actively employed in that role, plus there's no guarantee they won't change their mind and retract their notice, after the end date of consultation!  It would seem unfair to expect you to wait in limbo, to find out if you are still employed or not!
Use this scenario when asking your question, and get a definite answer, nothing less!

Mentioned a couple of months ago that some night teams were going has there been any update on this and if so which stores were effected