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I will has one thing.With the new contract pick and fill they wont be redundancy for staff who work in the morning as they can work mutliple places.The reason it was brought so that when nights was removed completely from an store or reduced the morning people will be filling the shelves this was Tesco plan to save billions within 3 years.I always saw so many staff on checkouts doing nothing as it was quiet this wasnt what tesco wanted so as an result they will be filling shelves. As for nights tesco wants to save money so it is actually better for them to be filling in morning evening and twilight hours which is reduced the amount of money they give to staff on nights. Which is why I believe they will cuts nights completely out of small store first.I dont belibe they will cut nights straight away in extra stores but we will see.What saves Tesco money they will do it.If they want to remove nights and do an trial where they can have no nights they will do so.

They removed nights in one go at our store and we are an extra. Have been filling it on twighlights for nearly a year now.

Wouldn't be surprised if they cut the opening hours of main bank tills. With all the investment in trolley self serve in the larger stores why do we need for example Doris sitting idle at 6am until a customer comes to her. Likewise in the evening once the rush hour passes do we need cashiers sat around on the off chance someone refuses to use self service?

@bobmay 2 extras in a few miles radius from my extra lost night teams a few years ago, plus serve, pick & fill training was to reduce overtime spend not to get rid of nights, keep dreaming though.

Quote from: londoner83 on 18-01-23, 06:28AMWouldn't be surprised if they cut the opening hours of main bank tills. With all the investment in trolley self serve in the larger stores why do we need for example Doris sitting idle at 6am until a customer comes to her. Likewise in the evening once the rush hour passes do we need cashiers sat around on the off chance someone refuses to use self service?

This might be it. What ever restructure they are planning for the front end it must be connected to filling.

Some stores last year have already had the mainbank opening hours in the morning and evening changed, so it will depend on your store if this happens.
2 extras near me both had this done last year yet my store which is busy first thing and all the way till close, would not cope with this happening hence why it did not happen.
For example in the last hour we take more than them both combined in their last 3 hours.

As for nights being removed, this debate happens every year.
All I know is again 1 of the extras has a massive dot com operation yet went to twilights, yet again my store didn't!
It just wouldn't be feasible to replenish the shop currently with our trade.
Yet is easier in a quite extra.

Bobmay has repeatedly changed his story, yet claims to only have 12 night colleagues left and that's why his store will lose the Night operation, well that is exactly the same amount as my store has which takes more money than his, and we have had round about that number for years!
We have no ban on recruitment and are currently recruiting for nights.
Even after the secret meeting yesterday.

We are also as busy as ever with no down turn after the new year!

Speculate as much as you want, however don't come on hear claiming things as fact with absolutely no evidence to back it up!

The changes will be announced soon, they always are, we will just have to wait and see what happens on top of the continuation of project river!

My store has reduced checkout hours. It works ok. We don't have a main bank open until 8am but if a customer with a big trolley a till is opened. Same for the end of the day. We only have self service for the last two hours of trade. If a main bank is required for the odd trolley someone from the shop floor pops on a till. If customer pays by card, no problem. If they pay by ash the till drawer requires unlocking but just needs to be locked again after.
When we have reduced main bank checkout hours, it does not mean self service only it means we will not be paying someone to sit doing nothing but if a customer needs serving we will get someone for you.
Shop floor and checkouts need to flow together. I totally agree that some checkout colleagues are unfit for most of shop floor but in my store we get them to fill light areas but mostly just rumble and face. If there are idle tills it affects overtime so the longer a till is sat doing nothing between customers the more overtime will be cut out of checkouts as the system just registers colleagues in at wrong times. It's in the interest of checkouts to get colleagues off checkouts and onto the shop floor.
Checkouts are monitored to death. It's scan rate, transaction times, Clubcard penetration, idle time, IDQ or wait time etc. Checkouts can't go for breaks as the want, there is a break list that must be followed. There are cameras trained onto smart till drawers and money is tracked to within an inch of its life. What the smart till drawer can't tell us the cctv can. I'm not complaining about this. It's only people who try and pull a fast one that would complain. I'm just saying that the rest of the store is not monitored to performance at the same level as checkouts. Everybody moans about the unfit checkout person but if they are passing all the performance measures that are in place they are a fantastic colleague, just saying.

Redshoes I agree re store attitude to tills in general, Store and lead managers avoid like the plague, and its measured and managed far more than any other department apart from Dotcom, constantly sneered at by the rest of the store.

Since the reorganisation at our large store in oct 2019 the checkouts is just like all other areas of the store as in it's not anyone's little kingdom. Managers, shift leaders and shop floor colleagues all work as a team and no one gets to just focus or stay in that area

Has anyone heard of new management structure on way?

Quote from: Goldielocks on 18-01-23, 06:18AMThey removed nights in one go at our store and we are an extra. Have been filling it on twighlights for nearly a year now.

How has it been has it worked? And was the store extremly busy before they cut nights? Is delivery worked on?

Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 18-01-23, 06:30AM@bobmay 2 extras in a few miles radius from my extra lost night teams a few years ago, plus serve, pick & fill training was to reduce overtime spend not to get rid of nights, keep dreaming though.

You dont have departments now because tesco expect colleagues to work every section. Do you think this new contract was brought in for no reason expect overtime no. They brought in this so people can fill shelves instead of staying on checkouts.  Tesco will soon cuts nights in small tesco.

Lol my department (dotcom) has 4 managers 1 senior manager and 4 team leaders. More managers than staff

Any news thus morning instores??

Quote from: Sizzle1968 on 19-01-23, 09:29AMAny news thus morning instores??

Of course not...where's the person who quoted this? Talking nonsense as per usual

Yep, week of Viewpoint starting and they'll announce something? Highly unlikely!

They are waiting until after viewpoint.
Remember last year or the year before when they made bakers redundant and a load of other changes they did it before viewpoint and got terrible results.

Quote from: Hibobhi on 19-01-23, 06:56AMLol my department (dotcom) has 4 managers 1 senior manager and 4 team leaders. More managers than staff

Managers are costing to much, Tesco wants to save money not have lots of mangers instead they prefer part time workers.

Never mind Bob, just keep your fingers crossed for what you wish for.

Sadly this was meant to happen before covid but was put on hold. I worked in H/o as part of the restructure team and then moved to store and now after creating opportunities outside of Tesco am now able to totter along as a GA with no worries in the world. Managers will be paid out with redundancy or given option to step down to shift leader with 18mth protected pay, new senior role (re structuring of seniors) will go into store to carry out formal/ disciplinary actions and act in SM absence. Shift leaders will do all the jobs managers did and in some stores are anyway. Been a long time coming but as I say was held off due to lock down. With massive profits this year company has enough to get rid of manager headcount.

looks like a lot of dead wood will take redundancy and run then!

Quote from: Harry_houdini on 20-01-23, 02:38PMSadly this was meant to happen before covid but was put on hold. I worked in H/o as part of the restructure team and then moved to store and now after creating opportunities outside of Tesco am now able to totter along as a GA with no worries in the world. Managers will be paid out with redundancy or given option to step down to shift leader with 18mth protected pay, new senior role (re structuring of seniors) will go into store to carry out formal/ disciplinary actions and act in SM absence. Shift leaders will do all the jobs managers did and in some stores are anyway. Been a long time coming but as I say was held off due to lock down. With massive profits this year company has enough to get rid of manager headcount.

Please point to the massive profits that you talk about?

Quote from: Harry_houdini on 20-01-23, 02:38PMSadly this was meant to happen before covid but was put on hold. I worked in H/o as part of the restructure team and then moved to store and now after creating opportunities outside of Tesco am now able to totter along as a GA with no worries in the world. Managers will be paid out with redundancy or given option to step down to shift leader with 18mth protected pay, new senior role (re structuring of seniors) will go into store to carry out formal/ disciplinary actions and act in SM absence. Shift leaders will do all the jobs managers did and in some stores are anyway. Been a long time coming but as I say was held off due to lock down. With massive profits this year company has enough to get rid of manager headcount.

Bit drastic ain't it ? Surely store specific

Can't see a large extra losing every manager barring the store manager and 1 senior.

Many stores have Next to no shift leaders. There is no way the business would effectively let developing GAs manage the day to day operations in £1m a week store whilst they learned the role.

Will be store and/or format specific. I can see them getting reducing but not getting rid of but it could account for lack of pay rise in the last couple of years.