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Very Little Helps => Stores => Topic started by: Bobmay on 01-09-22, 05:22AM

Title: Premium
Post by: Bobmay on 01-09-22, 05:22AM
I heard from manager that Tesco will be removing premium from night shift for new staff is this true? I think they want to remove the old staff on nights by threatening the remaining night staff and giving the remaining redundancy or hours in the evening or morning while after a few years they bring new staff to do nights on lower wages no premiums.

Is this happening in you store?  this is already happening in my store already where staff in the nights shift are being put under more pressure threatened and more then 15 people leaving and nor being replaced. My store became an express from metro I don't know if they are doing this so staff leave.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: barafear on 01-09-22, 06:08PM
Any nightshift jobs being advertised at the mo?
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: BritishRacingGreen on 01-09-22, 06:34PM
437 according to careers site - just put in 'nights' in the search box and they all come up.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Bobmay on 02-09-22, 02:00AM
In my store they aren't advertising any nights in fact but is even more shocking because more than half the staff left around 20 people.  Not 1 been replaced.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Redshoes on 09-09-22, 03:39AM
Premium payments are additional elements paid to you on top of your basic pay for working on Sundays, during the night, and on bank holidays. This will have been confirmed to you in your offer of employment and is paid per hour for shifts worked at premium times. Where a colleague in stores works Sunday night you would be paid both Sunday and the night premium.

How is my pay made up?

Our non-management colleagues in stores and customer fulfilment centres are paid hourly: this includes some or all of the following elements:   

Basic Pay
Premiums
Market Supplement
Location Pay
Skills Payment (where applicable)
First Aid Pay
Pay Protection
Option placement pay
Deputising Pay
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Andi on 24-09-22, 02:35AM
I work on nightshift in a store in n ireland and we are a dotcom store. I have read that new staff that do nightshift arent getting nightshift premiums or bh or sun premiums either. In our store staff are dropping like flies and arent being replaced and we are expected to get more work done and expected to get finished aswell. I dont knkw about other stores but in our store days dont pack out at all so we are coming in and shelves are empty and our overstock is the same as we left it and we could be coming into e.g yogurts having 13+ overstock cages every night and we are expected to do that and whatever delivery we have aswell. We are at the end of our tether and have heard whispers of our nightshift being cut most of us if not all of us are hoping to get redundancy i for example have 20 years service so id more than happily take mine as would others who have been there as long as me if not more. Suppose to be hearing more about this in oct and our fingers are crossed it does!

Personally i think tesco is a s*** hole and the big wigs couldnt care less about us.

Talking to HGV drivers and they get bonuses left right and centre, they are on a higher wage and they get £10 on top of every shift theu do plus them and distribution staff have a far better union than store staff!
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: 5fdp on 24-09-22, 07:45AM
Where have you read this info from. Please let us know. I think it might have been at the bottom of a beer glass. Please read our tesco on night premiums.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Bobmay on 24-09-22, 11:24AM
Quote from: Andi on 24-09-22, 02:35AMI work on nightshift in a store in n ireland and we are a dotcom store. I have read that new staff that do nightshift arent getting nightshift premiums or bh or sun premiums either. In our store staff are dropping like flies and arent being replaced and we are expected to get more work done and expected to get finished aswell. I dont knkw about other stores but in our store days dont pack out at all so we are coming in and shelves are empty and our overstock is the same as we left it and we could be coming into e.g yogurts having 13+ overstock cages every night and we are expected to do that and whatever delivery we have aswell. We are at the end of our tether and have heard whispers of our nightshift being cut most of us if not all of us are hoping to get redundancy i for example have 20 years service so id more than happily take mine as would others who have been there as long as me if not more. Suppose to be hearing more about this in oct and our fingers are crossed it does!

Personally i think tesco is a s*** hole and the big wigs couldnt care less about us.

Talking to HGV drivers and they get bonuses left right and centre, they are on a higher wage and they get £10 on top of every shift theu do plus them and distribution staff have a far better union than store staff!

The same is in my store cages left undone the fridge always full never empty it never was like this before. We had over 20 staff leave from nights not 1 being replaced and hyst recently another night staff leaving.  I dont break my back for Tesco and do whatever I can do and leave the rest. I dont bother arguing anymore. I also believe theh will cut hours or expect staff to be flexible which I am not and will not accept. I will take the redundancy and not look back and never come to tesco especially at the state it is in.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Bobmay on 24-09-22, 11:25AM
Quote from: 5fdp on 24-09-22, 07:45AMWhere have you read this info from. Please let us know. I think it might have been at the bottom of a beer glass. Please read our tesco on night premiums.

This is an known fact Tesco removing premiums.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: madness on 24-09-22, 11:53AM
Quote from: Andi on 24-09-22, 02:35AMI work on nightshift in a store in n ireland and we are a dotcom store. I have read that new staff that do nightshift arent getting nightshift premiums or bh or sun premiums either. In our store staff are dropping like flies and arent being replaced and we are expected to get more work done and expected to get finished aswell. I dont knkw about other stores but in our store days dont pack out at all so we are coming in and shelves are empty and our overstock is the same as we left it and we could be coming into e.g yogurts having 13+ overstock cages every night and we are expected to do that and whatever delivery we have aswell. We are at the end of our tether and have heard whispers of our nightshift being cut most of us if not all of us are hoping to get redundancy i for example have 20 years service so id more than happily take mine as would others who have been there as long as me if not more. Suppose to be hearing more about this in oct and our fingers are crossed it does!

Personally i think tesco is a s*** hole and the big wigs couldnt care less about us.

Talking to HGV drivers and they get bonuses left right and centre, they are on a higher wage and they get £10 on top of every shift theu do plus them and distribution staff have a far better union than store staff!

So become an HGV driver then? Don't try to make out that shop floor and HGV driving should be the same pay level.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 24-09-22, 12:08PM
13 cages of yoghurt overstocks,thats your managers,day managers,stock control manager and store managers fault,lack of control and yet the whole store just done training on waste and stock overs ,sack them all
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: 5fdp on 24-09-22, 01:34PM
Bobmay, I understand that a company wants to cut premiums. But if you have a nightshift fill then there will be a premium to get staff. If you offer no premium for working nights you wouldn't get anyone applying. If you have "heard from a mgr" keep it to yourself unless you actually know something that is concrete,otherwise, your just talking garbage. 
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: MerchMan007 on 24-09-22, 02:26PM
 :thumbup: 5fdp
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Redshoes on 24-09-22, 11:51PM
Taken from current policy as seen online today.

Basic Pay:

Basic pay for our hourly paid colleagues in stores is based on the B/C grade pay rate.

 

Premiums:

Premium payments are additional elements paid to you on top of your basic pay for working on Sundays, during the night, and on bank holidays. This will have been confirmed to you in your offer of employment and is paid per hour for shifts worked at premium times. Where a colleague in stores works Sunday night you would be paid both Sunday and the night premium.

 
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Bobmay on 25-09-22, 11:31AM
Quote from: 5fdp on 24-09-22, 01:34PMBobmay, I understand that a company wants to cut premiums. But if you have a nightshift fill then there will be a premium to get staff. If you offer no premium for working nights you wouldn't get anyone applying. If you have "heard from a mgr" keep it to yourself unless you actually know something that is concrete,otherwise, your just talking garbage. 

Actually people who are desperate for jobs wouldn't mind to work nights without night premium. There is plently of companies that do that already.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: 5fdp on 25-09-22, 05:15PM
Bobmay , Can you name me 12 big British companies that do not pay night premiums.  Feel free to "hear it from a mgr" for help.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: NightAndDay on 26-09-22, 11:07AM
There's currently a labour shortage of epic proportions which is in part contributing to the record levels of inflation we're currently seeing. Only illegals would work overnight for less than minimum wage, we're currently very much in an employees market where they can pick and choose who to work for. Stores have had to cease their night operation because of lack of candidates applying for the role and that was with a premium of £2.21 extra an hour which is better than some of the competitors, it wouldn't be a good strategic decision to scrap night premiums because of this and therefore is very much the case that night premium is still paid (I asked my flatmate the Store Manager and he confirms it is only sunday premium that new starters don't get).
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: barafear on 26-09-22, 12:55PM
Quick Google search found this job advert for "Central London":

Night Retail Assistant
Location: Primark Oxford Street West
Salary: £10.11-£10.40    :o  :o
Employment type: Permanent
Job type: Part Time
Contracted hours: 16 hours per week
Shift pattern: Friday and Saturday 10:00 PM-7:30 AM – all will be discussed at interview

We're Primark – one of the biggest names in fashion retail with over 400 stores globally and growing. We're all about fun, fashion, and a fabulous career.

As a Night Retail Assistant; you'll be part of a team that ensures that the sales floor is ready for trade the following day. This will involve the replenishments of stock on the shop floor and implementing any product layout changes required by the management team.

Whether you are looking for your first job or you are an experienced retailer who wants to develop their career, Primark has opportunities for you.

Primark offers an excellent pay rate, innovative training and development programmes and a fun, busy environment. Primark is just a great place to work!
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: 5fdp on 26-09-22, 04:11PM
Barafear, primark pay a 20% allowance for working nightshifts. Mgt get £20 extra every shift they work.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: lordadmiral on 26-09-22, 07:01PM
If you looking at retail pay , yesterday my wifes nephew who work for Lidls said with new payrise and night premium they hit £15p/h. Give a take few pennies.
Tesco sucks
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Redshoes on 26-09-22, 07:03PM
Lidls ask a lot for that bit of extra pay. The retention problem they have says it all.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 26-09-22, 08:01PM
Lidl also doesnt have many full timers,
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Bobmay on 27-09-22, 02:58AM
Quote from: 5fdp on 25-09-22, 05:15PMBobmay , Can you name me 12 big British companies that do not pay night premiums.  Feel free to "hear it from a mgr" for help.

NHS is the biggest employer. Police. Train companies and multiple others that don't pay extra for nights.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Bobmay on 27-09-22, 03:00AM
Quote from: NightAndDay on 26-09-22, 11:07AMThere's currently a labour shortage of epic proportions which is in part contributing to the record levels of inflation we're currently seeing. Only illegals would work overnight for less than minimum wage, we're currently very much in an employees market where they can pick and choose who to work for. Stores have had to cease their night operation because of lack of candidates applying for the role and that was with a premium of £2.21 extra an hour which is better than some of the competitors, it wouldn't be a good strategic decision to scrap night premiums because of this and therefore is very much the case that night premium is still paid (I asked my flatmate the Store Manager and he confirms it is only sunday premium that new starters don't get).

That at the moment with prices going up energy going up in prices daily soon they will have to increase their wages but as an result will gave to cut night premium. Just like they do with multiple companies already. Abd desperate people who want jobs will work without night premium.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Bobmay on 27-09-22, 03:03AM
Quote from: lordadmiral on 26-09-22, 07:01PMIf you looking at retail pay , yesterday my wifes nephew who work for Lidls said with new payrise and night premium they hit £15p/h. Give a take few pennies.
Tesco sucks

Tesco will increase their wage soon to 11.50 an hour dont expect they will pay night premium on top of that.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Bobmay on 27-09-22, 03:05AM
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 26-09-22, 08:01PMLidl also doesnt have many full timers,

That what tesco wants to move on flexible contract whee everyweek you do different hours.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: stockcontroller on 27-09-22, 03:35AM
Not sure it's been mentioned on any other thread on here (and not sure if this the right thread for it) but Tesco DC in Livingston officially issued redundancy notices for hundreds of drivers and pickers on old contracts after workers rejected any pay out. Most drivers are now seeing pay outs of £80k+ as many have worked for Tesco for over 20 years. This is after Tesco was taken to court and told they could fire and re-hire these people. The company are offering these people new jobs but at much reduced rates of pay. If only USDAW had the same amount of power with shop floor staff as the unions in the warehouses do.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: 5fdp on 27-09-22, 04:05AM
A lot of the drivers were on about 60k. There new contract takes them down to about 40k. The pickers are somewhat less than that. Many are staying and taking the buy out.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Bobmay on 27-09-22, 11:57AM
Please do not quote immediately prior post(s).  .Admin.

Tesco will either offer payout or redundancy when it comes I will take redundancy
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: StinkyPoo on 27-09-22, 12:04PM
I wouldn't work nights if it wasn't for the extra money 💰
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: grim up north on 27-09-22, 04:54PM
Quote from: stockcontroller on 27-09-22, 03:35AMNot sure it's been mentioned on any other thread on here (and not sure if this the right thread for it) but Tesco DC in Livingston officially issued redundancy notices for hundreds of drivers and pickers on old contracts after workers rejected any pay out. Most drivers are now seeing pay outs of £80k+ as many have worked for Tesco for over 20 years. This is after Tesco was taken to court and told they could fire and re-hire these people. The company are offering these people new jobs but at much reduced rates of pay. If only USDAW had the same amount of power with shop floor staff as the unions in the warehouses do.

@stockcontroller - when were the redundancy notices issued?
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: stockcontroller on 29-09-22, 12:50AM
As far as I'm aware it was around 2 weeks ago around 14th/15th is when the consultation started. I only know through a woman I work with who is married to a driver at the DC in Livingston. Fair to say she says they can retire, or at least cut back massively on working hours, on the money Tesco are paying out.  (and that should say couldn't fire and re-hire in my original post)
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: madness on 30-09-22, 07:39PM
So the drivers are getting 80k payout and can literally jump into any other driving job anyway. Nice.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Grafter on 04-10-22, 08:49PM
I wonder if Tesco will allow the people who signed the new contract to take redundancy as they said if people choose to stay on original contract they wouldn't come back with another offer
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: ihavequestions23 on 06-10-22, 10:49PM
Quote from: NightAndDay on 26-09-22, 11:07AMThere's currently a labour shortage of epic proportions which is in part contributing to the record levels of inflation we're currently seeing. Only illegals would work overnight for less than minimum wage, we're currently very much in an employees market where they can pick and choose who to work for. Stores have had to cease their night operation because of lack of candidates applying for the role and that was with a premium of £2.21 extra an hour which is better than some of the competitors, it wouldn't be a good strategic decision to scrap night premiums because of this and therefore is very much the case that night premium is still paid (I asked my flatmate the Store Manager and he confirms it is only sunday premium that new starters don't get).

Yeah exactly our store are looking to hire a bucket load of people and I've had managers asking me to ask other people if they want jobs and posters up advertising jobs because there's not enough people applying, in fact there's people leaving faster than people applying. They'd be mad to get rid of the one incentive to working nights.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Bobmay on 03-11-22, 06:12AM
They will probably change the hours people work so instead of doing 10 to 7 they will do 2 to 10 or 3 to 11
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 03-11-22, 03:39PM
correct bobmay, our store has the christmas temps not as 10-7 or 9-6 or 11-8, but from 2 onwards.. lol.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Bobmay on 03-11-22, 04:04PM
Please do not quote immediately prior post(s).  .Admin.

People were saying I was crazy for saying they will cut down on nights and instead do twilight so Tesco can save money.  They will see when it happens in the coming year when the next pay raise happens large cuts to managers and nights is coming.  Which is why Tesco is bringing in the new contract so everyone works every where from filling shelves to checkouts.