On nights,is there a specific time where you can and can't go for breaks? Some are being told that they CAN'T go between 4am and 5am due to it being "crucial hours" I've never heard this before in 10yrs of working nights.
When I worked nights I went actually all team went 1am to 1.30am then 4am to 4.30 am.did not cause any problems.
its actually up to your managers for your breaks, as long as it's not close to the start or ending of your shift they can have them anywhere, ours were always the choice of a 30 minute 11:30 to/or midnight to 12:30, then 2:30 to 3:30 / 3:00 to 4:00, there was a bit of leeway for a while and some decided to take whenever or split to 3 30 minutes, now its set at 2, 45 minute breaks where the delivery always arrives... they changed it to avoid that though so just shows they haven't a clue...
if you are up your manager's a*** then you can go whenever, we have a few that don't have to follow the 45 minute one and instead go for break at 6:30am to 7am to do shopping, and as per usual, if you complain its "nothing is happening like that" 8-)
Quote from: Mark calloway on 15-02-22, 12:34AM
On nights,is there a specific time where you can and can't go for breaks? Some are being told that they CAN'T go between 4am and 5am due to it being "crucial hours" I've never heard this before in 10yrs of working nights.
It is very normal to take breaks between 4 and 5am at many stores across the whole business. You need to stand up for yourself.
It is upto the managers when you go,and varies by store,between 4-5 seems late for breaks compared to most stores I've worked in
Quote from: oldfashionedplayer on 15-02-22, 08:18AM
its actually up to your managers for your breaks, as long as it's not close to the start or ending of your shift they can have them anywhere, ours were always the choice of a 30 minute 11:30 to/or midnight to 12:30, then 2:30 to 3:30 / 3:00 to 4:00, there was a bit of leeway for a while and some decided to take whenever or split to 3 30 minutes, now its set at 2, 45 minute breaks where the delivery always arrives... they changed it to avoid that though so just shows they haven't a clue...
if you are up your manager's a*** then you can go whenever, we have a few that don't have to follow the 45 minute one and instead go for break at 6:30am to 7am to do shopping, and as per usual, if you complain its "nothing is happening like that" 8-)
i go when i NEED a break, not when a MANAGER WANTS me to!!! deffo not up their arse!!!
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 15-02-22, 03:43PM
It is upto the managers when you go,and varies by store,between 4-5 seems late for breaks compared to most stores I've worked in
upto managers ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 15-02-22, 03:43PM
It is upto the managers when you go,and varies by store,between 4-5 seems late for breaks compared to most stores I've worked in
When tesco pay me for my breaks, then managers can tell me when to take them. Until then, it's none of their fornicating business. >:D
A manager makes operational decisions; that is why they are employed as managers. It is therefore within their remit to decide when their direct reports can & cannot go for breaks if they are able to justify the rationale behind these decisions.
I couldn't give a toss about, "needs of the business". I take my breaks when it suits me. Any manager who has a problem with that can ram his remit where the sun doesn't shine. ;)
Oh dear
Like your style, Vlad. ;D :thumbup:
Quote from: lackofinterest on 15-02-22, 05:38PM
i go when i NEED a break, not when a MANAGER WANTS me to!!! deffo not up their arse!!!
Most at ours are, thats what im getting at though, it used to be perfectly fine now it's just more stressful to challenge it unless you are up their arse lol, if it wasn't for my medical stuff already allowing me different stuff i'd be taking what im on regardless as i find it better for me in general anyhow, when they can pay correctly every time i'll maybe look at listening to something they say :P
I don't get what's "crucial " between 4 and 5. They're saying we can have 4 till 4.30 or 4.30 till 5 but not 4 till 5. Sadly our managers motto is "if it ain't broke,break it"
When I first started nights almost 13 years ago we could take our breaks as we liked then manager changed it to a hour 12.30 till 1.30 then 4 till 4.30 hate having to take a hour all at once used to do 3 half hour breaks.
Our guys on nights only get 2 x 30 minute breaks. I know they are upaid. Why do some some stores,as mentioned above have 90 minute total break time .Sounds like a money saving thing to me.
Most would rather finish early, hell I'd rather finish at half 5 than have to take breaks and finish at 7... I can just munch and drink on the shop floor... But nope, we all have to have the 90 minutes for a full shift... Checkouts is worse for their overtime, you can pick up multiple on one day, but the breaks are treated as different shifts.... Rather than just connect the shifts together,l and whatnot...
Munch and drink should be allowed it is good advert for our product and the early finish might be half a start to motivate staff. >:D
Quote from: renown on 18-02-22, 10:55PM
Our guys on nights only get 2 x 30 minute breaks. I know they are upaid. Why do some some stores,as mentioned above have 90 minute total break time .Sounds like a money saving thing to me.
Your night team, are they on full shift hours/ full time?? What are the shift times??
my stores night workers work 10pm until 6:30am with 2 half an hour breaks,this was voted for by them and agreed with the store manager as it helps get cages off the shop floor early so .com can pick quicker
Just take up smoking. Fag breaks are still allowed, never been outlawed. Even more so if the managers smoke, they'll never complain if you're out socialising with them.
[gmod]Or vaping (allegedly less harmful). [/gmod]
@lucgeo Shift pattern is 10pm to 7am
And your contracted hours on your payslip are? If you're getting 8 hours per shift, for straight runs of 10-7 then they're paying you for the 8 hours...this may have been agreed with the night team prior to you joining, which is questionable??
If you're getting paid 7.5 hours per shift, then you're being underpaid for 30 mins per shift, which is illegal!
At our store the people who the managers are afraid to approach get to go on breaks whenever they want including having longer breaks and smoke breaks, for the rest of us they decide exactly when our breaks are and how long. It's a joke.
Again...added to your other posts, your breaks can be dictated as to when taken. However it must not exceed four hours between breaks in stores ( not dot.com colleagues )
The length of your breaks, is dictated by the shift you are working, as you're unpaid for that break, no one can alter your breaks to less amount than your entitlement.
If you've got a 30 min unpaid break time allowance per shift, then you/they can ask to take two 15 mins instead, however this must by mutual agreement.
Quote from: lucgeo on 28-02-22, 08:02AM
Again...added to your other posts, your breaks can be dictated as to when taken. However it must not exceed four hours between breaks in stores ( not dot.com colleagues )
The length of your breaks, is dictated by the shift you are working, as you're unpaid for that break, no one can alter your breaks to less amount than your entitlement.
If you've got a 30 min unpaid break time allowance per shift, then you/they can ask to take two 15 mins instead, however this must by mutual agreement.
The issue is those who they won't approach get to have whatever breaks they want. They tell us we are allowed a half hour and an hour and at specific times, but we have people who go for one and a half hours at once, those who have no actual full break but go out for smoke breaks, those who take two 45 minute breaks, those who come in an hour late and have one half hour break, those who leave one hour early and have one half hour break... but they are yet to be pulled up about it.
stop moaning join in instead
There could be numerous reasons why some are taking different break formats and their reasons should remain private.
Some may have medical conditions...diabetes, muscle or skeletal problems which would require shorter regular breaks or a longer resting break.
Regular smoke breaks instead, will never be challenged whilst managers smoke themselves. Sometimes it's more beneficial for the store for someone to just pop out for a quick smoke and snack...their absence in short bursts can keep the momentum going!
For those arriving an hour late, or leaving an hour early? They may have a shorter shift contract to yours, which would explain them only having a 30 min break. If they are contracted to the same hours, then someone is manual clocking them in or out??
Trust me, don't go interfering on this breaks/shift length thing, as it'll come back and bite you hard on the arse!!
If you would prefer a different set of break times, ask! Offer to go different time to others, so there's a continuous presence on the shop floor, to keep on top of the filling or clear cages or cardboard out?
Quote from: lucgeo on 01-03-22, 08:18AMSometimes it's more beneficial for the store for someone to just pop out for a quick smoke and snack...their absence in short bursts can keep the momentum going!
I am tempted to call that twaddle but as a dot com driver a five or ten minute gap parked up at the end of an each hour's deliveries where possible does help with managing energy levels throughout the day.
Quote from: lucgeo on 01-03-22, 08:18AM
There could be numerous reasons why some are taking different break formats and their reasons should remain private.
Some may have medical conditions...diabetes, muscle or skeletal problems which would require shorter regular breaks or a longer resting break.
Regular smoke breaks instead, will never be challenged whilst managers smoke themselves. Sometimes it's more beneficial for the store for someone to just pop out for a quick smoke and snack...their absence in short bursts can keep the momentum going!
For those arriving an hour late, or leaving an hour early? They may have a shorter shift contract to yours, which would explain them only having a 30 min break. If they are contracted to the same hours, then someone is manual clocking them in or out??
Trust me, don't go interfering on this breaks/shift length thing, as it'll come back and bite you hard on the arse!!
If you would prefer a different set of break times, ask! Offer to go different time to others, so there's a continuous presence on the shop floor, to keep on top of the filling or clear cages or cardboard out?
I find the regular smoke breaks can never be challenged comment hilarious, since this is exactly what has been challenged. We are now unable to go out for any smoke breaks unless it is during our set breaks. Oh, but this doesn't stand for
everyone, only those they aren't afraid to tell. I've been told we will be investigated if we divert from our set breaks yet I've always skipped my break and had smoke breaks, and so have others, and suddenly it's an issue. It's a power play and for absolutely no reason.
I work on a department with two colleagues who are regularly taking the p**s when it comes to breaks yet some how its flown under the radar of management. I'm worried if I tell I will be branded a grass but I'm actually now sick of having to do extra work just so they can go off and drink coffees all the time. What should I do?
Do the same, don't fear your manager, if they're lettimg them get away with it he'll have to let you get away with it as well.