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Title: Bank Holiday working
Post by: MonkeyNinja on 02-06-21, 03:25AM
Hi,
I'm a part-time flexible worker. My core hours are 10-4 Sunday, 4-10 Monday, and some core hours on a Wednesday and Thurs. As I work Mondays does that mean I have to work every bank holiday Monday? I was looking through the working hours April 2021 policy and it states....

"If you are a Part time flexible colleague you can have core
hours on a Sunday that are worked each week. You would
not however have an availability window or be required to
flex up on Sundays or Bank Holidays."

Does this mean it's basically tough luck if my core hours are on a Monday so I have to work all the bank holidays?
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Redshoes on 02-06-21, 08:27AM
As you are contracted to Monday's you need to book holiday to be sure of having a bank holiday off.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: MonkeyNinja on 02-06-21, 10:17AM
Ok, thanks. I thought that was the case but wanted to check.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: newguy20 on 08-06-21, 05:48PM
That's intersting at my store there are lots of staff contracted to Mondays who flat out refuse to work bank holidays, as they have been there since 1965 nobody does or says anything and they get away with it... result, others are hammered all day as it's always short staffed. Then the next day they all waltz in and complain that routines haven't been done or things left in a mess... wonder why., some of them don't even speak to the manager about it, they'll just not turn up on the day and send a message saying they decided to have the day off. It's taking the pee how a hardcore of staff do what they like and the remainder get all the work dumped on them, and no action from management
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: forrestgimp on 08-06-21, 06:09PM
They dont have to, its only the recently recruited who are obliged to.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: penguin on 08-06-21, 06:24PM
Those who joined after January 2009 can be made to work a certain amount of bank holidays, anyone who started before that has the right to say no and management can do nothing about it.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Lavender girl on 14-07-21, 08:48PM
Do I have to work Sat 1st January 2022?  I'm contracted for Saturdays but wanted the day off as a BH.  My line manager says I can't as it's the Monday 3rd Jan that is the proper BH...??  I am part time flexi and I know that they're not "obliged" to let me have a BH but I thought 25/12 and 01/01 were considered my choice?
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lackofinterest on 14-07-21, 10:34PM
1st of january is new years day not the 3rd. nobody has to work new years day.the tesco bank holiday is actually the 1st not the 3rd. yes as you say its your choice. your line manager hasnt got a clue like a lot of them in our store
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Rad on 15-07-21, 01:15AM
Quote from: Lavender girl on 14-07-21, 08:48PM
Do I have to work Sat 1st January 2022?  I'm contracted for Saturdays but wanted the day off as a BH.  My line manager says I can't as it's the Monday 3rd Jan that is the proper BH...??  I am part time flexi and I know that they're not "obliged" to let me have a BH but I thought 25/12 and 01/01 were considered my choice?
You do not have to work them. The confusion may be coming from sun 26th and Sun 2nd being moved to Monday 27th and Monday 3rd.
In previous years when this has happened colleagues who are contracted to the Sundays are given the option of booking these days off(like a bank holiday)
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: expressman77 on 15-07-21, 07:08PM
Bank holidays are like your normal holidays in that you have to put in a holiday request
To be off , and like all holidays should all be booked in by end of june
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lackofinterest on 16-07-21, 02:17AM
in almost 20 years i have never put in a holiday request for a bank holiday. i only put in a request if i want to work them which is almost never!!!
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lackofinterest on 16-07-21, 02:21AM
if you started before 2009 you dont have to request bank holidays off. they might want you to  request them but you don't have to
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Rad on 16-07-21, 10:16AM
Quote from: expressman77 on 15-07-21, 07:08PM
Bank holidays are like your normal holidays in that you have to put in a holiday request
To be off , and like all holidays should all be booked in by end of june
This is true for the other bank holidays if the holiday process is being followed correctly.
Even if you have not requested or booked a holiday for Christmas, boxing day or new years day, you cannot be forced to work.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: knowles2 on 22-07-21, 07:28PM
All I know, I have been invited to a massive new year eve party, so I might be able to get in for 12 on Jan the 1st but if they think I will be in a functional state they got another thing coming.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Rubydubydoo on 24-08-21, 01:45PM
So I am contracted to a Sunday. If I put a holiday in for boxing day, can they refuse it?
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lackofinterest on 24-08-21, 04:30PM
no. nobody can be forced to work boxing day! boxing day is 26th december every year, no matter what day tosco choose as their bank holiday.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lackofinterest on 24-08-21, 04:38PM
Quote from: knowles2 on 22-07-21, 07:28PM
All I know, I have been invited to a massive new year eve party, so I might be able to get in for 12 on Jan the 1st but if they think I will be in a functional state they got another thing coming.
nobody can be forced to work january 1st!!!
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: NightAndDay on 24-08-21, 05:01PM
Quote from: lackofinterest on 24-08-21, 04:30PM
no. nobody can be forced to work boxing day! boxing day is 26th december every year, no matter what day tosco choose as their bank holiday.

It's not just Tesco though, The government decrees bank holidays can't fall on a weekend as traditional working hours are Mon-Fri 9am-5.30pm, bank holidays are modelled around Saturday and Sunday being days off and so bank holidays must fall on a working day (when companies say it will be with you in 3 to 5 working days, that doesn't mean Saturday or Sunday.)

The dates are still significant though, the bank holiday isn't logically identical to the actual date so you can still have the dates of significance off.

Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Rubydubydoo on 24-08-21, 05:11PM
Quote from: lackofinterest on 24-08-21, 04:30PM
no. nobody can be forced to work boxing day! boxing day is 26th december every year, no matter what day tosco choose as their bank holiday.

This is what I thought but my union rep is saying I need to work it.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lackofinterest on 24-08-21, 05:30PM
then you need to stop paying union fees. your union rep is useless to you if they're telling you this. don't go in if you don't want to. i know i wouldn't. everybody is allowed 25th, 26th december and 1st january off. contact acas if necessary
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Rubydubydoo on 24-08-21, 05:42PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: forrestgimp on 24-08-21, 06:15PM
Yep go in and tell them Lackofinterest says you don't have to so you aren't.

Don't forget to pop back and let us know how you get on.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: trotter on 21-03-22, 03:41AM
If you are contracted to work on a Bank Holiday, do you have the option to take the day off as unpaid leave?
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: BUY TESLA STOCK on 21-03-22, 08:13PM
Quote from: forrestgimp on 24-08-21, 06:15PM
Yep go in and tell them Lackofinterest says you don't have to so you aren't.

Don't forget to pop back and let us know how you get on.

Wow! Forrest's a smart arse.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: mama_bear2006 on 25-03-22, 11:48AM
I've recently joined Tesco and am doing nights.

One of my nights is Friday into Saturday. How will this work with Good Friday? Will I be paid Bank Holiday premium for it?

Also, Saturday into Sunday will fall into Easter Sunday. My shift is 10pm until 6:15am. Do night staff still work on the Saturday into Sunday when it's Easter Sunday?
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: BUY TESLA STOCK on 25-03-22, 07:16PM
You'll get premium. Best o luck in your new appointment.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lordadmiral on 26-03-22, 07:22PM
Regarding Saturday to Sunday shift, it's Your time off..
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: mama_bear2006 on 03-04-22, 06:28PM
What happens with night shift staff on the Saturday night into Sunday on Easter Sunday. Are we still in working?
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Sarah106 on 03-04-22, 06:36PM
I've been at my store 16 years and we have always worked the sat into Easter Sunday. Never worked Easter sun into Mon. Don't know what other stores do but that is what we have always done .
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: been here forever on 03-04-22, 07:18PM
I work nights and we always have Saturday and Sunday as our Bank Holidays over Easter, Christmas Eve and Christmas Day for Christmas, New Year's Eve, And Sunday for all other Bank Holidays.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: spike_pkh on 03-04-22, 08:24PM
Our store Sat & Sun Bank Holiday, staff working whatever they haven't booked off.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Sparky1221 on 09-04-22, 01:57PM
Bank holiday question; I work in Express, and we're only meant to run 4 CA shifts total on a bank holiday- 2 6am opens and 2 backshifts. My usual shifts on a Monday are a midshift, say 10-6pm, and a "first come, first serve" sign-up sheet has just gone up for the next few bank holidays, without anyone who usually works Mondays being asked first.

Am I able to insist on working my usual hours on those days, and failing that can I at least insist on being given a shift? I seem to recall my union rep in my last store saying that contracted workers should always have first refusal before it goes first come first serve.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 09-04-22, 05:33PM
Is it not still part of the holiday review about bank holidays ?that should of been done before 1st april?
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: expressman77 on 10-04-22, 08:13PM
Quote from: mama_bear2006 on 03-04-22, 06:28PM
What happens with night shift staff on the Saturday night into Sunday on Easter Sunday. Are we still in working?
Saturday and Easter Sunday ate not bank holidays so must work as normal unless
You have requested it off as holiday
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: mama_bear2006 on 13-04-22, 09:19AM
Thank you - I've only just started so wasn't sure how the Saturday into Sunday shift would work as the store won't be open at all that day. So assume we just finish at our normal time on Easter Sunday.

Thank you for helping.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: whatajoke2019 on 13-04-22, 09:41AM
I don't know about other stores but we're asked if we either want to work the Saturday night into Sunday morning or Sunday night into Monday morning based on our primary department as we tend to have a Grocery delivery Saturday night or a Fresh delivery Sunday night.

If we wanted the day off it's either booked as a holiday or we can work the hours elsewhere in the same week.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Gems on 24-04-22, 10:02PM
Hey guys..I'm a newbie to VLH and I don't know how to start a new post so jumping on this post  :-[this is in regard to the queen's jubilee.. i work night-shift..in our store we've been told anyone who is contracted for the Friday is entitled to it off and if they work it they will get double time and a quarter..I work the Thursday night into the Friday and am entitled to nothing..how is this fair?? Does anyone know anything in regards to this??

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Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Armin on 24-04-22, 10:40PM
It's time and a quarter, not double time and a quarter. I believe you'll get the bank holiday rate for your hours from midnight until your finish time
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Gems on 24-04-22, 11:09PM
Ahh right..I must've heard it wrong..time and a quarter is woeful don't know about anybody else's nightshift but I can't see many coming in to work for that!! Place will be empty:/ thankyou for replying:)
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: 5fdp on 24-04-22, 11:57PM
The jubilee for nightshift is the thurs into the fri. The bank holiday which normally lies at the end of May has been moved to the wed night into the Thursday. The Friday night is a normal night.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Gems on 25-04-22, 12:20AM
We have been told its the Friday night for the nightshift..that's why I thought it was unfair for anyone who worked the Thursday night into the Friday as it clearly states the celebrations start from the Thursday🤷‍♀️
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 25-04-22, 01:20AM
Nights it's Wednesday and Thursday, it's the days before for it, for some reason it's the 2 days? But think only Thursday will get the payment, least that's what jj gather, yammer says Wednesday and Thursday anyhow and Friday for day staff.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Gems on 25-04-22, 02:25AM
I'm in Northern Ireland so don't know if it's any different..thanks for the info guys👍
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Hibobhi on 25-04-22, 09:56AM
Has something changed with bank holidays, was speaking to a colleague and apparently last bank holiday after dotcom pick was finished staff weren't allowed to go home and they had to do their contract. It's always been that staff would stay till the pick was finished then go home as it was a bank holiday.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Minnie Mouse on 25-04-22, 12:52PM
For the jubilee bank holiday it is the Thursday night for nightshift, if you work it you get paid for the shift plus time & a quarter as you can't carry this bank holiday over to another time, you can have it off paid or work it but you have to be contracted to the Thursday night to get it
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Hammer10 on 25-04-22, 08:02PM
We have been told if you work the Friday it's double time and a quarter.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Gems on 25-04-22, 08:49PM
Yes that's what we were told.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lackofinterest on 26-04-22, 10:13AM
Quote from: Hammer10 on 25-04-22, 08:02PM
We have been told if you work the Friday it's double time and a quarter.
you will get paid 1.25 for working it as you would a normal bank holiday plus you get paid normal time because its an extra bank holiday. if you don't work it you get paid for the day anyway. just think of it as any normal bank holiday day
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Dkdiablo on 11-05-22, 11:00PM
Quote from: Gems on 24-04-22, 10:02PM
Hey guys..I'm a newbie to VLH and I don't know how to start a new post so jumping on this post  :-[this is in regard to the queen's jubilee.. i work nightshift..in our store we've been told anyone who is contracted for the Friday is intitled to it off and if they work it they will get double time and a quarter..I work the Thursday night into the Friday and am intitled to nothing..how is this fair?? Does anyone know anything in regards to this??
You didn't hear wrong. There was an article on ourtesco about the jubilee Bank Holiday saying this but then went missing the following week. Replaced with normal bank holiday rate.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: barafear on 12-05-22, 06:58PM
Quote from: Hammer10 on 25-04-22, 08:02PM
We have been told if you work the Friday it's double time and a quarter.

This only applies if you are contracted to work Fridays.

Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 12-05-22, 08:29PM
Nobody is paid double time and a quarter,if your contracted on the friday ,you get paid if you take it iff or not,if you opt to work its time and a quarter on top of your friday pay,,,i believe for nights its the thursday night,as per usual its probably a grey area from store to store
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Nomad on 13-05-22, 08:51AM
"if you opt to work it's time and a quarter on top of your Friday pay"

Does that not equate to x2.25 if you work it  :question:
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Staff_1 on 13-05-22, 02:09PM
What night are the night team getting off for the jubilee ?
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 13-05-22, 04:50PM
Nights is Thursday, Days is Friday.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Villager No.6 on 13-05-22, 05:39PM
The phrase "double time and a quarter" is confusing depending on how it's said.

Saying "It's DoubleTime and a quarter" would mean 2.25

"It's Double. Time and a quarter" would mean 2.5

Some in my store are convinced it's the latter including one manager that's been getting people in on that assumption......
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: StinkyPoo on 13-05-22, 06:44PM
In my store Thursday night is the 'Monday ' and Fri night is the free night off. Is this the same for all stores?
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 13-05-22, 08:07PM
shouldn't be, I believe the official thing is "Thursday and Friday" since they are both bank holiday listings, but tesco only recognises Friday,  and w&p recognises nights as the night before... Least with holiday policy anyhow regarding them.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 13-05-22, 10:00PM
@nomad ,it equates to 1.25 if you work it,, you get 1 days pay if your contracted a friday and sat at home
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lackofinterest on 13-05-22, 11:03PM
glad somebody else sees it as it is!!
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Hoover on 14-05-22, 08:35AM
Quote from: oldfashionedplayer on 13-05-22, 04:50PM
Nights is Thursday, Days is Friday.

Do you work in a store on work and pay system ?. Does your store have  an "in store arrangement on nights bank hols"

Is there any other store on work and pay  system who still take there bank holidays on the bank holiday night rather than the night before .

is there anybody else who is off Thursday and Friday night for the Jubilee weekend.
Thanks All .
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 15-05-22, 07:38AM
Our store doesn't have an arrangement, it is on work and pay though.  The answers on yammer are "The email we received with clarification says for night colleagues it is to be Thurs 2nd into Fri 3rd." and there's also a thing of how to code people working Friday who are contracted to it, paid at double time and and a quarter.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Minnie Mouse on 15-05-22, 11:47AM
@Hoover the nights bank holidays are Wednesday & Thursday, The Wednesday night is end of May bank holiday that was moved and Thursday is the extra bank holiday for queens jubilee if contracted to Thursday nights you either take it off or work it and paid for shift plus time and a quarter as can't carry this bank holiday over to another time
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: StinkyPoo on 15-05-22, 05:40PM
Is it definitely weds night and Thurs night for the night crew? We've been told Thurs night and Fri night!
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 16-05-22, 08:20AM
From searching, its Wednesday and Thursday for Nights, as Thursday is a Normal Bank holiday, and Friday is queens jubilee (special), So from the way it works for nights according to colleague helps is:

"it's the Thursday night is the "special bank holiday" as the majority of the hours for Thursdays shift fall on the Friday."

taken from yammer, as i said in a previous one, this is another post about asking and a confirmation.

Thursday being a normal bank holiday comes out of holiday entitlement and follows normal holiday procedures of may be required to work if not enough unless joining before X date, so Wednesday would be that for Nights while Thursday is the day for nights.

annoying if you want to be out all friday etc so become ill people. lol

as for christmas the same information with the paid abscences information said about falling on sunday 25th, so its a "Normal day", and they move it to tuesday 27th.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: thor god of thunder on 21-05-22, 09:27AM
Quote from: StinkyPoo on 15-05-22, 05:40PM
Is it definitely weds night and Thurs night for the night crew? We've been told Thurs night and Fri night!

how I understand it is if your on work and pay its Wednesday and Thursday. the old was would have been Thursday and Friday.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: thor god of thunder on 21-05-22, 09:31AM
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 12-05-22, 08:29PM
Nobody is paid double time and a quarter,if your contracted on the friday ,you get paid if you take it iff or not,if you opt to work its time and a quarter on top of your friday pay,,,i believe for nights its the thursday night,as per usual its probably a grey area from store to store

this whole double time and a quarter irritates the hell out of me...its not its simple as that. how many people actually just work contracted hours...they don't. for example 4 hours contracted on stock control but always work say 8. so that person will get paid 4 hours contract and 8 and 1.25....so thats not double time and a quarter
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Alvor the grear on 23-06-22, 08:24AM
So just got my wage slip and Iam a little puzzled, I was on holiday the week commencing 29th may (jubilee week) and wage slip shows as 30 hours holiday to cover 30 contracted hours. I'm contracted to a Friday should this have come out of my annual leave? Or has this been coded incorrectly? I was under the impression friday was a 'special bank holiday' I'm hoping someone can shed light on the matter.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Nightworker66 on 23-06-22, 08:57AM
My wage slip shows just £40 for the bank holiday which doesn't seem like 2.25 pay. Worked both the Thursday and Friday as contracted so don't know how they can mess that up
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lucgeo on 23-06-22, 09:15AM
Quote from: Alvor the grear on 23-06-22, 08:24AMSo just got my wage slip and Iam a little puzzled, I was on holiday the week commencing 29th may (jubilee week) and wage slip shows as 30 hours holiday to cover 30 contracted hours. I'm contracted to a Friday should this have come out of my annual leave? Or has this been coded incorrectly? I was under the impression friday was a 'special bank holiday' I'm hoping someone can shed light on the matter.

When you booked your annual leave and BH entitlements, was there an extra BH day added to your entitlement allowance? Usually a special event is added as an extra day allowance to your total. If this was the case for the jubilee BH then it could be coded wrongly as AL instead of BH. Check with your manager how it was coded, you should also have an annual BH allowance on your wage slip, is it one extra than usual?
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: whatajoke2019 on 23-06-22, 11:52AM
Anyone contracted to work the Friday who booked it off should have had it coded as 'Paid Absence - Additional Bank Holiday'. This shouldn't be taken out of your allowance if they've coded it correctly.

The Thursday 'Late May Bank Holiday' is the only day/hours that should've been deducted from our allowances.

Several of us who are contracted to work Friday seem to think the incentive to work said day isn't actually in our pay  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Grassman on 23-06-22, 01:43PM
Wage slip showing £37 for working 14 hours jubilee bank holiday. Worked the Thursday and Friday. I work nights but speaking to people on days they have been paid a lot more.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: seraph on 23-06-22, 02:31PM
On work and pay bank holidays show in a different way then you might be used to:

Contracted hours that you work on a bank holiday will just be included in Basic Hours pay (1.0).
And then you will receive the premium as Bank Holiday Premium (0.25).
Any overtime (extra hours above contract or hours on a none contracted day) show as Bank Holiday Overtime day/night (1.25).

In the jubilees friday case: all contracted hours on that day should have been paid in your basic pay (1.0) and if you worked, with a bank holiday premium of 1.25 (instead of 0.25)
All Overtime (extra hours above contract or hours on a none contracted day) on the jubilee was paid (1.25).

Hopefully this will help you to figure out if you have been paid correctly and if not flag it up with the relevant people!

Looking on yammer, it seems alot of night staff are having issues with the payments not being correct.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Nightworker66 on 23-06-22, 03:07PM
So mine worked out as 9.5 hours bank holiday pay total £41.78, so £4.40 per hour extra.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: StinkyPoo on 23-06-22, 03:28PM
One of our managers told us the bank holiday pay for nights doesn't seem to have been done correctly. People who were contracted and didn't work were paid the same as those who were contracted and did work! Shambles as usual!
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lackofinterest on 23-06-22, 03:38PM
if tosco are gonna pay you for having a day off why work it???. i'm not surprised there's c**k ups! some people will just never learn 8-)
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Grassman on 23-06-22, 03:45PM
It seems to be a problem only for night shift workers, not surprising really considering the companies main priority is pride month.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lackofinterest on 23-06-22, 03:56PM
wtf is pride month ???
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Preacherpauly on 23-06-22, 04:07PM
I knew they would mess this up.  Had 15hrs BH and got paid £50 quid. Same with all the night staff in store.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Preacherpauly on 23-06-22, 04:44PM
I read on reddit that some of the jubilee payment was added on to the base pay, anyone can confirm this?
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lucgeo on 23-06-22, 04:55PM
Quote from: lackofinterest on 23-06-22, 03:56PMwtf is pride month ???

Probably where everyone dresses as a rainbow 🌈 and embraces every diversity on the planet, whilst leaving boring old joe bloggs to fend for themselves !
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Alvor the grear on 24-06-22, 02:11PM
Quote from: whatajoke2019 on 23-06-22, 11:52AMAnyone contracted to work the Friday who booked it off should have had it coded as 'Paid Absence - Additional Bank Holiday'. This shouldn't be taken out of your allowance if they've coded it correctly.

The Thursday 'Late May Bank Holiday' is the only day/hours that should've been deducted from our allowances.

Several of us who are contracted to work Friday seem to think the incentive to work said day isn't actually in our pay  :thumbdown:
yes you are spot on should of been coded as 'paid absence- additional bank holiday' this clearly has not happened to me or some others in my store🙁 I wonder how many tesco employees nationwide have been affected? To clarify I work days. I'm sure tesco will make out it was an honest mistake (human error) as is often the case when it financially benefits Tesco
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lackofinterest on 24-06-22, 04:02PM
more than likely mickey mouse managers who havent got a clue and have coded it as a bank holiday :-X
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lackofinterest on 24-06-22, 04:15PM
Quote from: Preacherpauly on 23-06-22, 04:07PMI knew they would mess this up.  Had 15hrs BH and got paid £50 quid. Same with all the night staff in store.
your night manager obviously doesn't know how to do their job properly. no problem with mine because they know what they're doing.coded as paid absence :)
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 24-06-22, 04:26PM
Thry were all supposed to be done automatically according to comms, but according to yammer, Many stores have had night pay paid at 0.25 times instead of the correct amount.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Elly1519 on 24-06-22, 06:50PM
Copied from Yammer
1.
**ISSUE WITH JUBILEE CORE HOUR PAYMENTS FOR NIGHT WORKERS**
We have identified that there has been an underpayment for night colleagues who worked core hours from 2nd June into 3rd June, who will have received x1.25 payment for the hours worked on 3rd June as part of that shift, rather than x2.25.
This issue does not affect core hours worked 3rd June into 4th June, or core hours worked on 3rd June only.
We are centrally identifying which colleagues have been impacted and will be correcting these directly with payroll. No action is required at store level.
Please accept our apologies for this system issue.
2.
For those who like more technical detail, worked contracted hours submitted for this overnight shift were sent as a shift total from TAM to payroll, all dated 2nd (when shift started), but payroll was set to pay the higher premium rate only for hours submitted as being worked on 3rd.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Elly1519 on 24-06-22, 07:00PM
Quote from: lucgeo on 23-06-22, 09:15AM
Quote from: Alvor the grear on 23-06-22, 08:24AMSo just got my wage slip and Iam a little puzzled, I was on holiday the week commencing 29th may (jubilee week) and wage slip shows as 30 hours holiday to cover 30 contracted hours. I'm contracted to a Friday should this have come out of my annual leave? Or has this been coded incorrectly? I was under the impression friday was a 'special bank holiday' I'm hoping someone can shed light on the matter.

When you booked your annual leave and BH entitlements, was there an extra BH day added to your entitlement allowance? Usually a special event is added as an extra day allowance to your total. If this was the case for the jubilee BH then it could be coded wrongly as AL instead of BH. Check with your manager how it was coded, you should also have an annual BH allowance on your wage slip, is it one extra than usual?

There is no such thing as holidays and bank holidays on the Work+Pay system. Both are in one pot and are coded in hours now not days. 
03 June should have been coded as Paid Absence - Additional Bank Holiday and therefore would not have come out of holiday entitlements.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lucgeo on 25-06-22, 09:52AM
Well that's working out a treat then  8-)

Appreciate the update on systems  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: whatajoke2019 on 25-06-22, 10:31AM
Apparently those of us affected will see the payment in July's pay packet according to my TM.

Part of me wishes they'd not bothered now given that HMRC will be the only ones to benefit out of it!
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lackofinterest on 25-06-22, 12:15PM
wouldn't have been a problem if nobody had worked it. they we're paying you to be off! grab it with both hands and take the day off!!!
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Redshoes on 25-06-22, 12:23PM
Quote from: lackofinterest on 24-06-22, 04:02PMmore than likely mickey mouse managers who havent got a clue and have coded it as a bank holiday :-X
Managers don't process wages, not yet anyway. Wages clerk does things like this, in large store formats anyway.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lackofinterest on 25-06-22, 03:09PM
my manager books my hols onto the system :)
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 25-06-22, 04:17PM
Management are supposed to book everything to do with time off, so they go into the system, click, add length, drop down for type of absence etc, comms gave them all the information.. One problem was that comms came down that anyone working didn't have to add anything extra and it would do it automatically... Which ofcourse ends in problems..
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: extrastore on 25-06-22, 05:51PM
I am not contracted for Fridays and was promised by the SM that if I worked Jubilee Friday I would be on double time. Just checked my payslip and I have been paid at time and a quarter. My take home pay is £12 more than last month for a 5.5 hour shift, that is £2 an hour.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 25-06-22, 07:23PM
Id ask them where it is,if you wernt contracted to friday it was time and a quarter,if you was promised then they owe you
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lackofinterest on 25-06-22, 07:44PM
never believe store managers or senior team. my experience is they will lie to you to get what they want >:D
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Teddybonkers on 26-06-22, 05:52PM
You've been scammed extrastore. Nobody on the shop floor gets double time anymore. You'll get an extra 25% p.h for working Bank holidays, so the additional £12 is correct. I bet they all had a good laugh about it afterwards. Despicable management. >:(
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lackofinterest on 26-06-22, 07:56PM
Quote from: extrastore on 25-06-22, 05:51PMI am not contracted for Fridays and was promised by the SM that if I worked Jubilee Friday I would be on double time. Just checked my payslip and I have been paid at time and a quarter. My take home pay is £12 more than last month for a 5.5 hour shift, that is £2 an hour.
best to confide in a long serving colleague next time rather than believe what a manager tells you!!
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: FarmerFred on 27-06-22, 08:38AM
Quote from: extrastore on 25-06-22, 05:51PMI am not contracted for Fridays and was promised by the SM that if I worked Jubilee Friday I would be on double time. Just checked my payslip and I have been paid at time and a quarter. My take home pay is £12 more than last month for a 5.5 hour shift, that is £2 an hour.
Jubilee day was full pay for your contracted hours plus time and a quarter for the hours actually worked. As you are not contracted for the Friday you would only have been eligible for the standard bank holiday rate of time and a quarter. There should have been posters up in store and cards on the tables in your colleague room explaining this, my guess is that when your SM said double time that they weren't aware that you aren't contracted to Friday & therefore ineligible for the extra pay. That said, 5.5 hours at time and a quarter should result in more than £12 extra take home unless there's something else different such as the recent introduction of the increased National Insurance rates.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Preacherpauly on 19-07-22, 03:03PM
Quote from: extrastore on 25-06-22, 05:51PMI am not contracted for Fridays and was promised by the SM that if I worked Jubilee Friday I would be on double time. Just checked my payslip and I have been paid at time and a quarter. My take home pay is £12 more than last month for a 5.5 hour shift, that is £2 an hour.

SM has had your pants down.

Lets see if they have sorted the night workers jubilee money this month.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Poppy123 on 13-09-22, 01:36PM
Does anyone know if large stores are getting Monday off for the queens funeral? And how does this affect nightshift ie sunday into Monday? I believe stores are closing on Monday.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: NightAndDay on 13-09-22, 01:41PM
I heard from my TM friend that large stores will be open til 5pm (In England) on 19th September.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: StinkyPoo on 13-09-22, 01:55PM
Larger stores will be closed Monday. Smaller ones will open from 5pm.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Poppy123 on 13-09-22, 02:05PM
That's what I heard am wondering how that affects night shift workers?
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: spike_pkh on 13-09-22, 04:33PM
Nights should have the option to have Sunday night off if store closed Monday
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: 5fdp on 13-09-22, 04:43PM
Sunday will be a Bank Holiday. If you work it at night, midnight becomes time and a quarter. If you off you get pay your normal wage.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: dairyfresh on 13-09-22, 04:57PM
yes sunday night is voluntary, where shops are open ie convenience stores in central london and windsor those who are scheduled to work and choose to do so will receive time plus time and a quarter for hours worked. those who are not scheduled to work and volunteer to do so will be paid time and a quarter for hours worked, those scheduled to work and choose not to will receive a paid days leave.

 
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: NightWorker2022 on 13-09-22, 05:05PM
Night team screwed over again lol
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Morris999 on 13-09-22, 06:30PM
It's good to see people are stating that Sunday night is the bank holiday before any official Comms have come down :-X

Well official Comms have now come down and the Monday night is the bank holiday for night teams and will be the paid absence.
Sunday night is business as usual for the night teams.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Morris999 on 13-09-22, 06:31PM
Quote from: NightAndDay on 13-09-22, 01:41PMI heard from my TM friend that large stores will be open til 5pm (In England) on 19th September.

Well considering you are really important at HO, I'd have thought you would have known what Tesco were opening, without asking a friend! :D
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 13-09-22, 06:38PM
On ourtesco site in collegue help,search under queens funeral for clarification
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 13-09-22, 06:40PM
Night Colleagues in Stores (Large & Convenience)

Sunday 18th into Monday 19th September will be classed as the bank holiday.  Colleagues who are contracted to work this shift will not be required to come in and will be paid for the entire shift as normal.

Where a night colleague works any hours between midnight on Sunday 18th March and midnight on Monday 19th March they will be paid their normal contractual pay (if Monday is a normal working day), plus time and a quarter for any hours that are worked during that period.

The night of Monday 19th into Tuesday 20th September is classed as a normal working day, although the bank holiday premium will be paid for hours worked until midnight on the Monday as described above
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Morris999 on 13-09-22, 06:52PM
It came down on Comms centre after 17.00, that the Sunday 18th into Monday 19th will continue as normal, and Monday 19th into Tuesday 20th will be classed as the bank holiday.And will be classed as the paid absence.

Where a colleague works on the Monday night into the Tuesday, they will be paid their normal hourly rate and in addition to this from 00.00 Monday 19th September to 23.59 Tuesday 20th September, they will be paid the special bank holiday premium (time + time and a quarter).


Looks like either someone has come to their own conclusion and posted it in our Tesco or they have screwed up!
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 13-09-22, 07:17PM
Ourtesco is tescos official collegue help,im sure it said updated 17,42pm ,so who is right?anyone know?
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: dairyfresh on 13-09-22, 07:37PM
Have seen both guide from communication centre says Monday to Tuesday for nights Bank hol.

Ourtesco.com colleague help says Sunday to Monday https://colleague-help.ourtesco.com/hc/en-us/articles/5940626965788-Her-Majesty-The-Queen-s-Funeral

Usdaw also say Sunday to Monday.

Edit they've took out night shift just now so looks like Monday to Tuesday is correct
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: 5fdp on 13-09-22, 08:14PM
Its Sunday into Monday. New communication coming out tomorrow. Only tesco can c**k a simple thing up. But it is Sunday into Monday. Trust me I'm a doctor.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 13-09-22, 08:21PM
Ourtesco updated 8pm.removed night worker bit,says bhol monday for store collegues,distribution list on thrre also
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: world of their own on 14-09-22, 12:57AM
Monday night into Tuesday night off for our night team.

Confirmed by our management tonight.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: dairyfresh on 14-09-22, 01:42AM
Nights info has been taken out of official briefing pack so expect clarification will come down today.

Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Stitch on 14-09-22, 03:32AM
Does anyone know how pfs that are with an extra store are affected? It doesn't mention in that article that dairyfresh linked above  :(
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Scotch on the rocks on 14-09-22, 04:14AM
Quote from: Stitch on 14-09-22, 03:32AMDoes anyone know how pfs that are with an extra store are affected? It doesn't mention in that article that dairyfresh linked above  :(
PFS staff screwed over AGAIN! Normal trading hours.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: dairyfresh on 14-09-22, 05:18AM
According to briefing pack pfs are to close
If anyone has yammer the briefing pack is in this thread
https://www.yammer.com/uk.tesco.com/threads/1913207866867712?message_id=1913207866867712
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Loki on 14-09-22, 06:32AM
Quote from: 5fdp on 13-09-22, 08:14PMIts Sunday into Monday. New communication coming out tomorrow. Only tesco can c**k a simple thing up. But it is Sunday into Monday. Trust me I'm a doctor.

This is correct. The initial Tesco Comms/briefing pack that came down is to be amended to Sunday night being the Bank Holiday NOT the Monday night. This will be confirmed today.

The communication from the Usdaw National Officer is correct which states the Bank Holiday for nights being the Sunday night.

Typical mistake by Tesco.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Juicylucy on 14-09-22, 07:37AM
Can anyone help with clarification on being paid if you don't work it when scheduled? Work in express and our sm trying to say that if you have it off it's out of your holiday allowance yet everything says it's a paid absence like the jubilee 🤷�♀️
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: 5fdp on 14-09-22, 07:44AM
It will not affect your holiday entitlement.  Its in the pack that came down for mgrs. So he is telling a fib.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Juicylucy on 14-09-22, 08:02AM
Quote from: 5fdp on 14-09-22, 07:44AMIt will not affect your holiday entitlement.  Its in the pack that came down for mgrs. So he is telling a fib.

See im a shift leader and I've seen every document to do with it already so I was convinced I was right, then he comes out with that and you doubt yourself, especially when they're more senior than you you'd like to think they know what the hell they're talking about! Said straight away he's lying or he's thick! Me and a colleague politely pulled him up on it on the group chat and he's still not having it so a bit of a more direct approach now then :)
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: dairyfresh on 14-09-22, 09:35AM
https://colleague-help.ourtesco.com/hc/en-us/articles/5940626965788-Her-Majesty-The-Queen-s-Funeral.

Night Colleagues in Stores (Large & Convenience)
Monday 19th into Tuesday 20th September will be classed as the bank holiday.  Colleagues who are contracted to work this shift will not be required to come in and will be paid for the entire shift as normal.

Where a night colleague works any hours between Midnight on Monday and 23:59 on Monday they will be paid their normal contractual pay (if Monday is a normal working day), plus time and a quarter for any hours that are worked during that period.

The night of Sunday 18th into Monday 19th September is classed as a normal working day, although the bank holiday premium will be paid for hours worked from midnight on the Monday as described above.

updated today 9:30.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Duff McKagan on 14-09-22, 10:53AM
Well that contradicts the previous post stating that Sunday into Monday is the bank holiday
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: 5fdp on 14-09-22, 11:42AM
The company has now said that mon into tues is the bank holiday. Sunday is a normal night. 😁
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Stitch on 14-09-22, 12:15PM
Quote from: dairyfresh on 14-09-22, 05:18AMAccording to briefing pack pfs are to close
If anyone has yammer the briefing pack is in this thread
https://www.yammer.com/uk.tesco.com/threads/1913207866867712?message_id=1913207866867712

Oh I can't see that....apparently I don't have clearance (never got on with yammer lol) but thank you
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: T.C.1 on 14-09-22, 12:31PM
I've been on holiday and work nights reading the posts so is officially Sun/Mon or Mon/Tue? It's just a bit of a mess.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: world of their own on 14-09-22, 01:22PM
Monday into Tuesday.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: T.C.1 on 14-09-22, 01:52PM
It just doesn't make sense to have BH Mon/Tue because if big stores are closed all day Monday then there be no delivery Sunday night? especially fresh.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: world of their own on 14-09-22, 02:16PM
Quote from: T.C.1 on 14-09-22, 01:52PMIt just doesn't make sense to have BH Mon/Tue because if big stores are closed all day Monday then there be no delivery Sunday night? especially fresh.
Sunday night will be a normal working night.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Preacherpauly on 14-09-22, 02:33PM
Its pathetic that the express stores have to open at 5pm.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Bobmay on 14-09-22, 02:52PM
Quote from: dairyfresh on 13-09-22, 04:57PMyes sunday night is voluntary, where shops are open ie convenience stores in central london and windsor those who are scheduled to work and choose to do so will receive time plus time and a quarter for hours worked. those who are not scheduled to work and volunteer to do so will be paid time and a quarter for hours worked, those scheduled to work and choose not to will receive a paid days leave.

 

They will also get extra holiday for working bank holiday
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Poppy123 on 14-09-22, 03:11PM
Quote from: Duff McKagan on 14-09-22, 10:53AMWell that contradicts the previous post stating that Sunday into Monday is the bank holiday

I don't understand how you come home without sleep at 8am Monday morning to watch funeral at 11 then not go to work Monday night. Am I missing something?

The complete opposite of what was said yesterday.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Duff McKagan on 14-09-22, 08:22PM
Does anyone have a definitive answer yet? Nobody seems to know...our store have been told there's no night crew on Sunday into Monday yet several on here are saying the bank holiday is Monday into Tuesday...I've seen 2 'official' notices stating 2 different days so what Shift is the bank holiday? This will end up being an absolute shambles at this rate.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: world of their own on 14-09-22, 08:44PM
Quote from: Duff McKagan on 14-09-22, 08:22PMDoes anyone have a definitive answer yet? Nobody seems to know...our store have been told there's no night crew on Sunday into Monday yet several on here are saying the bank holiday is Monday into Tuesday...I've seen 2 'official' notices stating 2 different days so what Shift is the bank holiday? This will end up being an absolute shambles at this rate.

Monday into Tuesday..

Sunday night is a normal working night.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: kaled78 on 14-09-22, 08:58PM
we were told there will be no deliveries to stores on monday due to distribution closing for the day,stores may experience a delay in getting deliveries on tuesday,if this is the case then our store would have no delivery for nights to work mon into tues,so it makes sense for them not to be in
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: trivi on 15-09-22, 12:28AM
Quote from: Bobmay on 14-09-22, 02:52PMThey will also get extra holiday for working bank holiday

The extra payment is in lieu of an extra holiday
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Duff McKagan on 15-09-22, 06:40AM
Presumably then staff who don't ordinarily work Monday nights will be able to claim a day back in lieu just like regular holidays?
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 15-09-22, 08:04AM
@duff sorry it doesnt work like that,its not a holiday as such,its to give people working on the day of the queens funeral a chance to pay their respects and watch it,if your not contracted you can watch it
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Duff McKagan on 15-09-22, 09:52AM
We've been told that those working the bank holiday will receive the normal pay for their shift plus time and a quarter on top...if that's true then surely those of us not contracted should get something...
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lucgeo on 15-09-22, 10:09AM
And this is why they changed it all years ago...at one time if you weren't contracted to a BH, with the majority being a Monday, you didn't get the extra time allowance. Those not contracted could work for double time and a day in lieu...I used to bank mine and was averaging 8 weeks hol per year!

Then they introduced a fifth of your working week in time allowance, which became complicated in getting the hours back, and some more corrupt managers who had a colleague on a short day due to the allowance, weren't including their allocated breaks as owing, so someone on a 9 hour shift was getting less breaks due to less hours worked in the shift, and not the 1.50 owed! I think the BH allocation is the best idea.

Most of the stores are closed on the Monday, much like Christmas & Easter Sunday, so the same rules should apply.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: whatajoke2019 on 15-09-22, 10:13AM
If you aren't contracted and end up working, you'll get time and a quarter (just like the Platinum Jubilee).

If you've booked the day off as holiday prior, then it's changed to a Paid Absence - Extra Bank Holiday and those colleagues will get to use their day holiday again.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: person7 on 15-09-22, 12:56PM

I have the 19th as a "booked holiday" from months ago -- so im glad get to use it again.

i was off last week due to illness and said to my boss im happy to work 19th if they can swap my holiday to when i was off (only contracted to 7 hours so i get NO sick pay at all even though im covering sundays for almost a year its not on my contract - (as its maternity leave cover  not permanent)

i was worried that now we are closed and its a day off i would LOOSE my holiday as all the managers seem clueless what will happen to people on booked holidays as im the only one in store with that day booked off anyway!
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: person7 on 15-09-22, 01:01PM
Quote from: Duff McKagan on 15-09-22, 09:52AMWe've been told that those working the bank holiday will receive the normal pay for their shift plus time and a quarter on top...if that's true then surely those of us not contracted should get something...

Our store is closed entirely anyway on 19th even managers aren't going in..

BUT one thing that annoyed me was during the queens jubilee.. EVERYONE was getting DOUBLE time and quarter.. but because I wasn't contracted to that day. I just got standard pay! - and I agreed to it BEFORE I found out -- otherwise I would told them to stuff it if I'm getting paid half what everyone else is getting.

No managers were in so I took extra breaks as "compensation" -

I mean why should I do two departments by myself overworking myself on basic time and quarter wage when everyone on the tills or in their own department got to sit and chat with each other not much to do and got paid double time and quarter!! its a quiet store on bank holidays so not many customers but seeing all my colleagues, moving slowly, chatting and having laugh and I'm on my own other side of the store doing 4 peoples jobs with no extra pay!

last time I do that!
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Duff McKagan on 15-09-22, 08:23PM
I worked the Jubilee as it was my contracted shift, I most certainly didn't get double time and a quarter, some of my colleagues have said they did but I didn't see any extra. My manager said they'd look into it, I've asked several times whether I should have had time back or extra pay but as of yet I've still had no answer, no money, and no time back.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: person7 on 15-09-22, 11:09PM
wow! thats poor! every single collegauge who worked that day (except me or anyone who wasn't contracted that day) got it - if it was a contracted shift i would keep nagging them and say you will get the union involved to seek legal action against missing pay (union may be useless half the time but tesco do seem to get some things moving to "avoid" the union being involved)

As i even got it in email that it was double time and quarter (but I didn't qualify due to not contracted day) - if i kept the emails i would have posted it so you can use it as evidence but i delete them after i read them as half of their emails are just boasting about profits
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Bobmay on 16-09-22, 04:01AM
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 15-09-22, 08:04AM@duff sorry it doesnt work like that,its not a holiday as such,its to give people working on the day of the queens funeral a chance to pay their respects and watch it,if your not contracted you can watch it

What about those working nihtj shift on sunday.As they are only there for few hours until it is monday.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Bobmay on 16-09-22, 04:07AM
Quote from: person7 on 15-09-22, 01:01PM
Quote from: Duff McKagan on 15-09-22, 09:52AMWe've been told that those working the bank holiday will receive the normal pay for their shift plus time and a quarter on top...if that's true then surely those of us not contracted should get something...

Our store is closed entirely anyway on 19th even managers aren't going in..

BUT one thing that annoyed me was during the queens jubilee.. EVERYONE was getting DOUBLE time and quarter.. but because I wasn't contracted to that day. I just got standard pay! - and I agreed to it BEFORE I found out -- otherwise I would told them to stuff it if I'm getting paid half what everyone else is getting.

No managers were in so I took extra breaks as "compensation" -

I mean why should I do two departments by myself overworking myself on basic time and quarter wage when everyone on the tills or in their own department got to sit and chat with each other not much to do and got paid double time and quarter!! its a quiet store on bank holidays so not many customers but seeing all my colleagues, moving slowly, chatting and having laugh and I'm on my own other side of the store doing 4 peoples jobs with no extra pay!

last time I do that!

That why I dont break my back when working at Tesco.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: whatajoke2019 on 16-09-22, 10:36AM
Quote from: Duff McKagan on 15-09-22, 08:23PMI worked the Jubilee as it was my contracted shift, I most certainly didn't get double time and a quarter, some of my colleagues have said they did but I didn't see any extra. My manager said they'd look into it, I've asked several times whether I should have had time back or extra pay but as of yet I've still had no answer, no money, and no time back.

You might've received it in August. A fair few of us experienced issues and had to wait for it  ???
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 16-09-22, 02:35PM
@bobmay maybe thats why there trying to get you onto day shift
Title: Stock control
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 16-09-22, 06:07PM
Is stock control broken in your store?i havent seen a grocery osi sticker since july,
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: fscer on 16-09-22, 07:04PM
Stock Control is dead now. Grocery only happens once every 2 weeks now for 3 hours ish.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lucgeo on 16-09-22, 07:30PM
Stock control was on a slippery slope of decline when they went to central control!
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Moneyrice on 16-09-22, 07:53PM
Hi there!  I have off Monday / Tuesday, I work on twighlight (4:00 p.m. -00:30 a.m.).  Am I entitled to an extra day off for the Queen's funeral?
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: SimonF12030 on 16-09-22, 11:16PM
No such thing as Stock Control now, just a job title until October when they will be covering everything else
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 17-09-22, 02:12AM
Quote from: Moneyrice on 16-09-22, 07:53PMHi there!  I have off Monday / Tuesday, I work on twighlight (4:00 p.m. -00:30 a.m.).  Am I entitled to an extra day off for the Queen's funeral?

if your "Contracted" Shift, Not Overtime, is Monday then Yes, and you'll be paid 2.25x premium for 4pm to midnight. it's only the hours inside of 00:00 to 23:59 with Monday that'll count so you won't get 30 minutes of it, and obviously the break entitlement in there too so that's also a factor.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Bobmay on 17-09-22, 03:26PM
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 16-09-22, 02:35PM@bobmay maybe thats why there trying to get you onto day shift

They try to get me to move to morning and evening it will not work.I know their game is to remove as much staff as possible than remove nights and give the remaining two options change to morning evening or redundancy. I will be taking redundancy and not coming back to Tesco.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Duff McKagan on 18-09-22, 08:46AM
Quote from: whatajoke2019 on 16-09-22, 10:36AM
Quote from: Duff McKagan on 15-09-22, 08:23PMI worked the Jubilee as it was my contracted shift, I most certainly didn't get double time and a quarter, some of my colleagues have said they did but I didn't see any extra. My manager said they'd look into it, I've asked several times whether I should have had time back or extra pay but as of yet I've still had no answer, no money, and no time back.

You might've received it in August. A fair few of us experienced issues and had to wait for it  ???

No I've checked my pay right back to June and I never received it, several in my store say they never received it either whilst a few said they did so who knows what's happened. I've asked for it to be investigated because it's not chump change we're taking about here
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 18-09-22, 11:11PM
Yeah make sure you've got let's talks and a wage query form copy in your file, they can do a bacs transfer instantly / have it paid on next payday so its definitely something to investigate and raise a grievance if need be.. They'll soon want someone's head for it.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Preacherpauly on 19-09-22, 04:01PM
Quote from: Duff McKagan on 15-09-22, 08:23PMI worked the Jubilee as it was my contracted shift, I most certainly didn't get double time and a quarter, some of my colleagues have said they did but I didn't see any extra. My manager said they'd look into it, I've asked several times whether I should have had time back or extra pay but as of yet I've still had no answer, no money, and no time back.

If you work nights then you would have got it the month after because they cocked it up.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Preacherpauly on 19-09-22, 04:03PM
Quote from: Bobmay on 16-09-22, 04:07AM
Quote from: person7 on 15-09-22, 01:01PM
Quote from: Duff McKagan on 15-09-22, 09:52AMWe've been told that those working the bank holiday will receive the normal pay for their shift plus time and a quarter on top...if that's true then surely those of us not contracted should get something...

Our store is closed entirely anyway on 19th even managers aren't going in..

BUT one thing that annoyed me was during the queens jubilee.. EVERYONE was getting DOUBLE time and quarter.. but because I wasn't contracted to that day. I just got standard pay! - and I agreed to it BEFORE I found out -- otherwise I would told them to stuff it if I'm getting paid half what everyone else is getting.

No managers were in so I took extra breaks as "compensation" -

I mean why should I do two departments by myself overworking myself on basic time and quarter wage when everyone on the tills or in their own department got to sit and chat with each other not much to do and got paid double time and quarter!! its a quiet store on bank holidays so not many customers but seeing all my colleagues, moving slowly, chatting and having laugh and I'm on my own other side of the store doing 4 peoples jobs with no extra pay!

last time I do that!

That why I dont break my back when working at Tesco.

Yep, doesnt matter if we are down staff or they send in loads of delivery, I don't work any harder than normal. Do these people that do get extra pay or rewards......no they don't so whats the point.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: BritishRacingGreen on 19-09-22, 06:26PM
PreacherPauly - it's called 'job satisfaction'. Some of us actually enjoy what we do and give it our all - #workethic
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lucgeo on 20-09-22, 08:59AM
#mug!  8-)
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: FarmerFred on 20-09-22, 09:50AM
There's a balance to strike between being a lazy do as little as possible type and being taken for a fool. Personally I have found it better to be busy as the time goes by quicker, whereas dragging my heels slows the day right down.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Nomad on 20-09-22, 10:32AM
I always preferred to be occupied to pass the day quicker, BUT only doing what I was paid to do.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lucgeo on 20-09-22, 12:07PM
If you're allowed to do the job you're paid to do, in the time allotted to that task, you will be kept busy your whole shift, you'll get the job satisfaction of having done the job you're paid to do properly :thumbup:
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: BritishRacingGreen on 20-09-22, 01:28PM
Quote from: lucgeo on 20-09-22, 08:59AM#mug!  8-)

Thank you. I shall ensure your description is on my CV for future reference.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lucgeo on 20-09-22, 04:09PM
Edit...#smug

You're thinking of leaving already ??? Why ??? You're doing so well ;)

Don't forget to include in your Curriculum Vitae ...enjoys manipulation, lots of extra unpaid hours, boring home/social life...favourite colour is brown and can jump extra super duper high on demand  :)
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lackofinterest on 20-09-22, 04:52PM
 :thumbup:  :thumbup:  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: BritishRacingGreen on 20-09-22, 05:55PM
Quote from: lucgeo on 20-09-22, 04:09PMEdit...#smug

You're thinking of leaving already ??? Why ??? You're doing so well ;)

Don't forget to include in your Curriculum Vitae ...enjoys manipulation, lots of extra unpaid hours, boring home/social life...favourite colour is brown and can jump extra super duper high on demand  :)

Edit: #HappilyContentedlySmug
Just my own person expressing my own opinion living my own life - but that doesn't seem to be what people like you can accept. Not manipulated, no unpaid extra hours, extremely busy home/social life, favourite colour is red, I don't jump but I do run 5K every morning.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Nomad on 20-09-22, 06:39PM
What's the expression, sod you jack I'm alright.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: lucgeo on 20-09-22, 07:05PM
Quote from: BritishRacingGreen on 20-09-22, 05:55PM
Quote from: lucgeo on 20-09-22, 04:09PMEdit...#smug

You're thinking of leaving already ??? Why ??? You're doing so well ;)

Don't forget to include in your Curriculum Vitae ...enjoys manipulation, lots of extra unpaid hours, boring home/social life...favourite colour is brown and can jump extra super duper high on demand  :)

Edit: #HappilyContentedlySmug
Just my own person expressing my own opinion living my own life - but that doesn't seem to be what people like you can accept. Not manipulated, no unpaid extra hours, extremely busy home/social life, favourite colour is red, I don't jump but I do run 5K every morning.

Wake...wake...wake...and you're back in the room  ;)
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 20-09-22, 07:39PM
There's nothing back breaking in filling a shelf there are dinosaurs in this business though, even though you get less stock, less stock holding, they think an aisle they've always done is their job and that's it, no place within Tesco for those kind of people, unless managers let them.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Bobmay on 21-09-22, 12:23AM
Quote from: BritishRacingGreen on 19-09-22, 06:26PMPreacherPauly - it's called 'job satisfaction'. Some of us actually enjoy what we do and give it our all - #workethic

Job satisfaction for being an donkey good luck. Some love to work as donkeys than complain when others dont accept that.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Bobmay on 21-09-22, 12:26AM
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 20-09-22, 07:39PMThere's nothing back breaking in filling a shelf there are dinosaurs in this business though, even though you get less stock, less stock holding, they think an aisle they've always done is their job and that's it, no place within Tesco for those kind of people, unless managers let them.

Managers can break their own back I will not. Only a donkey would accept breaking their back for peanuts.  Then complain when others don't accept it.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 21-09-22, 07:27AM
What is back breaking about filling a shelf?your not building st pauls, and its monkeys and peanuts not donkeys
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Bobmay on 21-09-22, 10:54AM
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 21-09-22, 07:27AMWhat is back breaking about filling a shelf?your not building st pauls, and its monkeys and peanuts not donkeys

Some people over work themselves like donkeys.Being paid peanuts for the work they do. That is fine by me.If they want to work 30 cages an night four sections cleaning talking delivery that up to them.Just makes them look like an mug.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Teddybonkers on 21-09-22, 11:42AM
 :thumbup:  Tesco love a brainwashed Zombie or two.           
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: newguy20 on 21-09-22, 07:08PM
Quote from: Bobmay on 21-09-22, 10:54AM
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 21-09-22, 07:27AMWhat is back breaking about filling a shelf?your not building st pauls, and its monkeys and peanuts not donkeys

Some people over work themselves like donkeys.Being paid peanuts for the work they do. That is fine by me.If they want to work 30 cages an night four sections cleaning talking delivery that up to them.Just makes them look like an mug.

Thing is. If the company is dedicated to the staff and is generally ok, then people will put their back into it and get the job done... if they are suddenly short staffed they'll push themselves to deliver.
However. When it's a shitstorm from one minute to the next, why bother?? all goodwill has evaporated.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Preacherpauly on 22-09-22, 11:40AM
Quote from: Bobmay on 21-09-22, 10:54AM
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 21-09-22, 07:27AMWhat is back breaking about filling a shelf?your not building st pauls, and its monkeys and peanuts not donkeys

Some people over work themselves like donkeys.Being paid peanuts for the work they do. That is fine by me.If they want to work 30 cages an night four sections cleaning talking delivery that up to them.Just makes them look like an mug.

Them they start moaning to the managers how others are not working hard enough.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 22-09-22, 12:27PM
And there probably right though
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Bobmay on 23-09-22, 06:40AM
Quote from: Preacherpauly on 22-09-22, 11:40AM
Quote from: Bobmay on 21-09-22, 10:54AM
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 21-09-22, 07:27AMWhat is back breaking about filling a shelf?your not building st pauls, and its monkeys and peanuts not donkeys

Some people over work themselves like donkeys.Being paid peanuts for the work they do. That is fine by me.If they want to work 30 cages an night four sections cleaning talking delivery that up to them.Just makes them look like an mug.

Them they start moaning to the managers how others are not working hard enough.

They are mug. Wait until they become old age and complaining about back pain. They want to break their back working like donkeys don't by me don't complain when others won't
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Bobmay on 23-09-22, 06:42AM
Quote from: newguy20 on 21-09-22, 07:08PM
Quote from: Bobmay on 21-09-22, 10:54AM
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 21-09-22, 07:27AMWhat is back breaking about filling a shelf?your not building st pauls, and its monkeys and peanuts not donkeys

Some people over work themselves like donkeys.Being paid peanuts for the work they do. That is fine by me.If they want to work 30 cages an night four sections cleaning talking delivery that up to them.Just makes them look like an mug.

Thing is. If the company is dedicated to the staff and is generally ok, then people will put their back into it and get the job done... if they are suddenly short staffed they'll push themselves to deliver.
However. When it's a shitstorm from one minute to the next, why bother?? all goodwill has evaporated.

Not my problem if Tesco dont hire staff I will not be breaking my back I will do whatever I can do. The managers themselves threaten people who leave than complain about work not being done.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: NightAndDay on 23-09-22, 11:12AM
Only work hard for companies that care about staff and recognises it, Tesco is an employer of attrition, they promote on needs of the business firstly and capability lastly, we are in the midst of an economic downturn very similar to the great depression, there will be more staff chasing fewer management roles. You could be working every day giving it your all for years before you'd get a look in for promotion. It is much more economically viable and easier to just apply for management vacancies at a competitor.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday working
Post by: Bobmay on 23-09-22, 02:48PM
Quote from: NightAndDay on 23-09-22, 11:12AMOnly work hard for companies that care about staff and recognises it, Tesco is an employer of attrition, they promote on needs of the business firstly and capability lastly, we are in the midst of an economic downturn very similar to the great depression, there will be more staff chasing fewer management roles. You could be working every day giving it your all for years before you'd get a look in for promotion. It is much more economically viable and easier to just apply for management vacancies at a competitor.

I agree I worked with people who worked so hard doing 4 people jobs staying behind later 7 hours extra then coming in early missing on sleep.  They did this to get position of manager yet weren't given it.  It doesn't matter how hard they worked they never got the position.