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Drivers leaving.

Started by Modena, 28-10-21, 01:31PM

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Hammer10

So if you can't strike just work slower make it harder for Tesco to get what they want . Collective sickness say all one department go sick at same time but don't talk about it plan it out of work on the quiet.That's if you can afford it .

horatiocain

It's called a  'blue flu' and it's considered an illegal strike.

The first option is much better, working to rule is brutal  because the management have to sit there and watch it happen and are powerless to do anything  because you're following every rule.

Like the rule that you can only carry a single tray at a time  its common place for staff to carry 2-3 to speed up the process.
Actually looking and observing before turning  taking your time and correctly following your pristine training.
Going at the customers pace on the checkout.
Cleaning as you go and putting the equipment back correctly.

For DotCom it's brutal  the drivers risk assessment has to be made dituatilnally and they have the final say  because the unique risks might not be present next time.
I've watched a driver bring back a third of their deliveries because of unacceptable risks.
We saw 4 drivers bring back every drop one winter night a few years ago because they didn't have torches and there was not a single street light where they were sent.
No disciplinary hearing ever took place because no rule was broken.

That's where the power lies  working to rule  and a reasonable pace.

And remember the legal definition of legal applies, which is the average person's opinion, how hard does the average person think they should work for minimum wage?

Modena

Thank you for your reply our place is the same some drivers will miss there lunch just to get a extra delivered, where as the rest of us will stand our ground bring back the job if we have to or come back late have lunch go back out late, there are two types of drivers here some who live for tesco others it's just a job.

horatiocain

We had a group of 7 drivers always got every single drop done
Managers pushed at them so they worked to rule and in 1 day brought back a total of 14 drops,all because they didn't like the way these guys stuck together, working to rule is massively powerful because it isn't breaking any rules.
My place can hold on to drivers at all  its a joke now.

BUY TESLA STOCK

People sticking together  :o

The norm usually is everyone thinks they are grafters in comparison to the other and fire there coworkers in at every opportunity to keep the managers off the shop floor. End result people leave and not replace and the grafters are expected to do more.

hesketh

A week on strike loses you 2% of your year's earnings.

Striking to rectify a wrong decision or action has it's place, if you are prepared to sacrifice money to make your point. As a wage negotiation gambit it is rather counter productive. There are also pension and continuity of service implications if Tesco decide to play nasty (Don't think they won't).

As Horatiocain has pointed out working to rule is the most effective method, and it costs you nothing.

Just take a few minutes to look at your job and all the little things you do that make it simpler or quicker. Every procedure that you shortcut is a gain that the company is making whilst you are the one at risk of injury or disciplinary. Don't forget that all the "heatmaps", schedules  and such nonsense are worked out on current performance levels, which include those "shortcuts".

Simply do your job "By The Book" and their system doesn't work anymore.....

As a distribution driver, it would be easy to find several reasons why your delivery will either be delayed by hours or not made at all. Whilst these "discussions" are taking place your gate will be blocked and no other deliveries will be possible at the backdoor.

You will be told go completely against procedures and unload another vehicle in the carpark without safety shoes, Hi-Vis and training. Will you do it.....NO!

Follow this theme through and it is easy to bring the whole shebang to a shuddering halt......

NightAndDay

#31
If the reason for striking is due to pay and conditions then Tesco could negatively affect continuity of service and pension for the strikers, however if the reason for strike action to begin with is non-competitive pay and benefits then that will only act as a deterrent for potential future applicants, especially in an employee market which we are currently in.

Tesco "playing nasty" will only result in more hgv drivers and striking staff to jump ship to better pay and compensation elsewhere, the cost of losing staff at present, especially staff that fall under sectors with government acknowleged severe worker shortages is many times greater than what it would cost in normal times.

HGV drivers are the backbone of all supply chains. To maintain the picture of market dominance, Tesco can in no way afford to lose hgv drivers to competitors. As it stands at the moment in todays scarcity led economy, whoever has the most availability wins.

BUY TESLA STOCK


gomezz

Quote from: horatiocain on 02-11-21, 12:05PM
We had a group of 7 drivers always got every single drop done
Managers pushed at them so they worked to rule and in 1 day brought back a total of 14 drops
In my experience it usually more work and a more of a hassle to bring drops back.   Unless you leave them on the van to be unloaded by someone else.
"The progress of the kart is more important than its direction"

horatiocain

They rolled all of the drops back in to the debrief desk infront of the store manager  clocked out, said goodbye and walked to the nearby pub, all those unhappy customers because Tesco didn't like these guys working the way they did which might have bent the rules  but always got the job done and the customers always happy.

I think only 1 still works there, and he's now only there occasionally because they behave like spoiled brats.

VladPutin

Quote from: horatiocain on 02-11-21, 09:03AM
It's called a  'blue flu' and it's considered an illegal strike.

The first option is much better, working to rule is brutal  because the management have to sit there and watch it happen and are powerless to do anything  because you're following every rule.

Like the rule that you can only carry a single tray at a time  its common place for staff to carry 2-3 to speed up the process.
Actually looking and observing before turning  taking your time and correctly following your pristine training.
Going at the customers pace on the checkout.
Cleaning as you go and putting the equipment back correctly.

For DotCom it's brutal  the drivers risk assessment has to be made dituatilnally and they have the final say  because the unique risks might not be present next time.
I've watched a driver bring back a third of their deliveries because of unacceptable risks.
We saw 4 drivers bring back every drop one winter night a few years ago because they didn't have torches and there was not a single street light where they were sent.
No disciplinary hearing ever took place because no rule was broken.

That's where the power lies  working to rule  and a reasonable pace.

And remember the legal definition of legal applies, which is the average person's opinion, how hard does the average person think they should work for minimum wage?

Indeed. The term, "Blue Flu" originates from police officers using sick days as a form of protest. But police found out that working to rule is actually much more effective. Years ago, two armed police officers shot dead a man who was carrying a table leg in a plastic bag. When it looked like the officers could be charged with Manslaughter, almost a third of all the Met's Authorised Firearms Officers threatened to hand in their, "tickets". Because police officers cannot be ordered to carry firearms, it's a volunteer role they can withdraw from at any time.

Faced with the horrifying prospect of their not being enough armed police to protect Westminster and the so-called VIP's, the government and senior ranks quickly backed down.

Zx81

Quote from: Hammer10 on 29-10-21, 12:29PM
That's what I like keep going for more money in distribution then when store staff get their back dated compo it will add up to a pretty penny let alone the massive pay rise we will get Tesco won't know what's hit them.
come and work in distribution if you want the money, I'm sure you'd be surprised how difficult it is, give me a warm comfortable store any day, rather than sweating at minus 25 degrees id definitely swap with you if the money was the same, who would work in distribution then😜

Modena

So just a update 3 drivers have been accepted at Ocado 1 has gone to a removal firm at £14.50 a hour they are looking for people long days though and 2 have gone back to the airport.

Modena

I have just seen Aldi pickers earn £11.05 more than our pickers get it surprises me that our girls don't move on unless they don't know.

fatlad

Sainsburys drivers pay going upto £11.50 in March plus minimum pay in store going upto £10.

T.C.1

Experienced shop staff at Sainsbruys will be  on £11.40 an hour making Sainsbury the best paying supermarket.

fatlad

Nah, that's lidl.

T.C.1

My bad read it wrong still be interesting what Tesco will offer at the pay review.

fatlad

Surely they've got to offer something before the pay review is due as from April they will only be paying shop floor workers 5p above minimum wage.

NightAndDay

#44
They've just gave their pay raise in November, Tesco moving their pay rise dates closer to the end of the year saves them money, ca's will be on £9.55 an hour until next November most likely, the later dates saves Tesco on payroll and allows them to see what their competitors pay.

The risk to their strategy of course is the negative press that would ensue if the government raises the national living wage higher than what Tesco sets it as, but Tesco always pays at least 16p above the minimum anyway, but in these high inflation times, who knows what will happen.

fatlad

Tesco won't be paying 16p above nmw as from April it will be £9.55 & Tesco will be paying £9.50.

MerchMan007

Nah , that's the wrong way round Fatlad

fatlad



Modena

So am I right in saying other than Asda we are the second worse payers for drivers that is shameful as we are meant to be the biggest supermarket

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