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Pay review 2023

Started by person7, 05-02-23, 02:55PM

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stewright90

Quote from: Cocktail on 05-03-24, 10:28AM
Quote from: stewright90 on 05-03-24, 10:24AMSo a 6.6% pay rise less so if you work Sundays, the union can get f****d we gave up our bonus for higher hourly pay increases, and we are below what asda will be, come July.

I am out of that s*** show union!
Asda have be paying £11.11 since July 2023 which is about the 11.02 tesco have been paying so what are you ranting about?
Exactly what

1982dave

Right says on notice from 28 April so are we getting 11.44 till then

stewright90

Quote from: Cocktail on 05-03-24, 10:28AM
Quote from: stewright90 on 05-03-24, 10:24AMSo a 6.6% pay rise less so if you work Sundays, the union can get f****d we gave up our bonus for higher hourly pay increases, and we are below what asda will be, come July.

I am out of that s*** show union!
Asda have be paying £11.11 since July 2023 which is about the 11.02 tesco have been paying so what are you ranting about?
Exactly what I am ranting about, the union and Tesco had the chance to give us what we gave our bonus away to receive, yet again we get stiffed.

Cocktail

I'm disappointed that there were no increase in night premium considering the managers had one. :(

stewright90

Quote from: 1982dave on 05-03-24, 10:32AMRight says on notice from 28 April so are we getting 11.44 till then
No due to the way our pay cycle falls, Tesco do not legally have to give us the increase till the pay period after the NLW increase so we lose a month of it.

1982dave

Quote from: stewright90 on 05-03-24, 10:35AM
Quote from: 1982dave on 05-03-24, 10:32AMRight says on notice from 28 April so are we getting 11.44 till then
No due to the way our pay cycle falls, Tesco do not legally have to give us the increase till the pay period after the NLW increase so we lose a month of it.
lol how wonderful

Littlemissanxious

Are skills payments increasing by a % as well? Location pay staying?

Cocktail

Quote from: stewright90 on 05-03-24, 10:33AM
Quote from: Cocktail on 05-03-24, 10:28AM
Quote from: stewright90 on 05-03-24, 10:24AMSo a 6.6% pay rise less so if you work Sundays, the union can get f****d we gave up our bonus for higher hourly pay increases, and we are below what asda will be, come July.

I am out of that s*** show union!
Asda have be paying £11.11 since July 2023 which is about the 11.02 tesco have been paying so what are you ranting about?
Exactly what I am ranting about, the union and Tesco had the chance to give us what we gave our bonus away to receive, yet again we get stiffed.
I understand that but it's time we get over that, its been years now and all we're gonna get is a competitive wage rather than a market leading one, the few pence more Asda is paying is not worth stressing over.

1982dave

Quote from: Littlemissanxious on 05-03-24, 10:37AMAre skills payments increasing by a % as well? Location pay staying?
apparently no skills payments increase

Cocktail

Quote from: 1982dave on 05-03-24, 10:36AM
Quote from: stewright90 on 05-03-24, 10:35AM
Quote from: 1982dave on 05-03-24, 10:32AMRight says on notice from 28 April so are we getting 11.44 till then
No due to the way our pay cycle falls, Tesco do not legally have to give us the increase till the pay period after the NLW increase so we lose a month of it.
lol how wonderful
that is incorrect...any hours worked in April will be paid at the NLW of £11,44 until the £12.02 kicks in on the 28th

NightAndDay

#960
Quote from: stewright90 on 05-03-24, 10:24AMSo a 6.6% pay rise less so if you work Sundays, the union can get f****d we gave up our bonus for higher hourly pay increases, and we are below what asda will be, come July.

I am out of that s*** show union!
I think the majority would rather the 2p less per hour now than the 2p more per hour in a few months.

Tbf, this payrise isn't bad at all, the fact they are still the only retailer offering Sunday premium and paying above the real living wage is also not to be sniffed at, though there's not a lot in it between the competition (As I've predicted for a long time now), I'd say all things considered Tesco is offering one of the better remuneration packages.

It is also Retail, there really should be a certain level of expectation management when it comes to pay.

Itiswhatitis40

I wonder if skills payment will be described in the full pay briefing to store managers at lunchtime then in the pay briefing pack.  The union call may have been to just a general description of the changes.

Mersey1

Any update on shift leader pay rate?

stewright90

Quote from: Cocktail on 05-03-24, 10:42AM
Quote from: 1982dave on 05-03-24, 10:36AM
Quote from: stewright90 on 05-03-24, 10:35AM
Quote from: 1982dave on 05-03-24, 10:32AMRight says on notice from 28 April so are we getting 11.44 till then
No due to the way our pay cycle falls, Tesco do not legally have to give us the increase till the pay period after the NLW increase so we lose a month of it.
lol how wonderful
that is incorrect...any hours worked in April will be paid at the NLW of £11,44 until the £12.02 kicks in on the 28th
No they won't, do not believe me that's fine wait till you get a shock on the 26th, or you can google the legislation on NLW increases and when they must be paid from.

jm876546886

I'm pretty frustrated, they need to get rid of the forum process for pay it just doesnt work for anyone

Cocktail

Quote from: stewright90 on 05-03-24, 10:46AM
Quote from: Cocktail on 05-03-24, 10:42AM
Quote from: 1982dave on 05-03-24, 10:36AM
Quote from: stewright90 on 05-03-24, 10:35AM
Quote from: 1982dave on 05-03-24, 10:32AMRight says on notice from 28 April so are we getting 11.44 till then
No due to the way our pay cycle falls, Tesco do not legally have to give us the increase till the pay period after the NLW increase so we lose a month of it.
lol how wonderful
that is incorrect...any hours worked in April will be paid at the NLW of £11,44 until the £12.02 kicks in on the 28th
No they won't, do not believe me that's fine wait till you get a shock on the 26th, or you can google the legislation on NLW increases and when they must be paid from.
it must be paid from April 1st and it will be paid from April 1st.

1982dave

I just asked and was told when we get paid on 28th it's covered up untill the Saturday the 30th the next pay cycle starts 31st so yea according to managers in my store we will get 11.02 till the Sunday 28 when the next pay cycle finishes

1982dave

I was under the assumption it would be 11.44 from first April but after hearing what I've just been told it seems correct

SAMCRO

It's quite clear. The £12.02 pay increase starts on April 28th. So that means you will get the money in May pay packet

stewright90

Quote from: Cocktail on 05-03-24, 10:52AM
Quote from: stewright90 on 05-03-24, 10:46AM
Quote from: Cocktail on 05-03-24, 10:42AM
Quote from: 1982dave on 05-03-24, 10:36AM
Quote from: stewright90 on 05-03-24, 10:35AM
Quote from: 1982dave on 05-03-24, 10:32AMRight says on notice from 28 April so are we getting 11.44 till then
No due to the way our pay cycle falls, Tesco do not legally have to give us the increase till the pay period after the NLW increase so we lose a month of it.
lol how wonderful
that is incorrect...any hours worked in April will be paid at the NLW of £11,44 until the £12.02 kicks in on the 28th
No they won't, do not believe me that's fine wait till you get a shock on the 26th, or you can google the legislation on NLW increases and when they must be paid from.
it must be paid from April 1st and it will be paid from April 1st.
Nope, the legislation states it must be paid "from the next pay cycle after" the NLW increase. As I said, you will get a shock on the 26th.

Raven

#970
Quote from: Cocktail on 05-03-24, 10:52AM
Quote from: stewright90 on 05-03-24, 10:46AM
Quote from: Cocktail on 05-03-24, 10:42AM
Quote from: 1982dave on 05-03-24, 10:36AM
Quote from: stewright90 on 05-03-24, 10:35AM
Quote from: 1982dave on 05-03-24, 10:32AMRight says on notice from 28 April so are we getting 11.44 till then
No due to the way our pay cycle falls, Tesco do not legally have to give us the increase till the pay period after the NLW increase so we lose a month of it.
lol how wonderful
that is incorrect...any hours worked in April will be paid at the NLW of £11,44 until the £12.02 kicks in on the 28th
No they won't, do not believe me that's fine wait till you get a shock on the 26th, or you can google the legislation on NLW increases and when they must be paid from.
it must be paid from April 1st and it will be paid from April 1st.
It doesn't quite work like that.From the ACAS website.

The higher rate starts to apply from the next pay reference period after the increase. This means someone's pay might not go up straight away.

For example, there's a minimum wage rate increase on 1 April.

Sam gets paid monthly on the 15th of the month. The old rate will apply until Sam's next pay reference period starts on 16 April.

As a minimum, Sam should get paid:

the old rate for 1 April to 15 April
the new rate for 16 April to 15 May.

So 31st March - 27th April will still be paid at £11.02.

AsdaBeBetter

People failing to realise that if it wasn't for the Union then there may not even be a payrise

Duff McKagan

Quote from: NightAndDay on 05-03-24, 10:43AM
Quote from: stewright90 on 05-03-24, 10:24AMSo a 6.6% pay rise less so if you work Sundays, the union can get f****d we gave up our bonus for higher hourly pay increases, and we are below what asda will be, come July.

I am out of that s*** show union!
I think the majority would rather the 2p less per hour now than the 2p more per hour in a few months.

Tbf, this payrise isn't bad at all, the fact they are still the only retailer offering Sunday premium and paying above the real living wage is also not to be sniffed at, though there's not a lot in it between the competition (As I've predicted for a long time now), I'd say all things considered Tesco is offering one of the better remuneration packages.

It is also Retail, there really should be a certain level of expectation management when it comes to pay.
Yeah the actual hourly rate increase isn't my issue, its the lack of night premium increase that's annoyed me, night managers getting an extra £1000 a year while those of us working the same hours as them get no increase at all.

1982dave

Quote from: AsdaBeBetter on 05-03-24, 11:02AMPeople failing to realise that if it wasn't for the Union then there may not even be a payrise
how do you work that out you have to have one by law with the national living wage increase lol

stewright90

Quote from: AsdaBeBetter on 05-03-24, 11:02AMPeople failing to realise that if it wasn't for the Union then there may not even be a payrise
Yes there would, if one of the large retailers in the UK decided to not give a pay rise and all others did, what would happen if it were a substantial enough difference?

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