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Team Managers about to get demoted-lose pay!

Started by markwinters, 29-12-22, 11:06AM

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NorthbyNorthwest

I did notice that my PILON was based on basic weekly wage though. I have brought this up with my SM. Anyone else had this?

Jeff123

Quote from: MAI on 09-04-23, 11:54AM
Quote from: NightAndDay on 08-04-23, 11:21PMExpress SMs get bonuses, peak salary outside of London in a non-fuel site express is apparently capped at £45k with average salary being around £36k a year, this is to be uprated in May.

Lead Team still exists, but next progression from TM tends to be Express SM, then Express SM to lead team.

TM salary is now at a minimum of £26k a year, suspect it to go up to £28k a year minimum from May seeing as SLs are now basically on £26k a year (with premium payments and normal amount of overtime.)

There are accounts of Team Managers being on around £50k a year maximum, but not verified, I believe the range is now £26k-£41k a year with average earnings being around £32k a year.


Interesting.

So its Team Manager then Express SM then Extra/Superstore Lead Team and finally a WL3 Store Manager.

How does this work if there is practically no Lead Team, or does every store have about 1 left in them?

Progression seems non existent then to Lead team (too many people, too little roles)

Lol there is no set path to progression u get promoted if you fit diversity targets or your face fits and in some cases if your sleeping with some above I have witnessed all of these things and people jump levels with next to no experience I've seen people go from shift leader to lead team bypassing the team manager level and team manager go to store manager bypassing the lead team role all in the name of improving diversity statistics the company is corrupt

5fdp

Yes . My PILON is the same as before. Mine has went by 4k. Bonus is not included in the figure. So need to add that on.

6xpl89

SRP is calculated at the average pay over the 12 weeks prior to consultation

ASP is calculated at the average pay over the 52 weeks prior to consultation

PILON is calculated at your contractual weekly pay as they are just paying you your contractual notice

Forgetmenot

Quote from: 6xpl89 on 18-04-23, 01:16PMSRP is calculated at the average pay over the 12 weeks prior to consultation

ASP is calculated at the average pay over the 52 weeks prior to consultation

PILON is calculated at your contractual weekly pay as they are just paying you your contractual notice

Quick question with regards to the asp aspect my weekly average is considerably lower than my contractual based on the fact I was on maternity leave for a period within the last 52weeks. I've been working the overtime to increase my average to above my contractual thinking that would increase my weekly average and have only today seen that maternity has affected - is this correct that you average is impacted my maternity leave? Or can anyone direct me to any info on this please

5fdp

I take it that you took sometime on maternity as unpaid leave.  If so this would reduce your average weekly pay up to the year end. So if you took 1 week unpaid you would have needed to work about 4 shifts ot to make it up. Remember that year end was back in February.  So doing lots of ot since then has not helped your average weekly wage for last year.
If you didn't take anytime on maternity as unpaid time off, then I would speak to your mgr.

Forgetmenot

#1531
No I didn't have any unpaid it was just normal maternity pay followed by holiday.  I have asked the question but no response as yet so let's see.

6xpl89

Quote from: Forgetmenot on 18-04-23, 02:24PM
Quote from: 6xpl89 on 18-04-23, 01:16PMSRP is calculated at the average pay over the 12 weeks prior to consultation

ASP is calculated at the average pay over the 52 weeks prior to consultation

PILON is calculated at your contractual weekly pay as they are just paying you your contractual notice

Quick question with regards to the asp aspect my weekly average is considerably lower than my contractual based on the fact I was on maternity leave for a period within the last 52weeks. I've been working the overtime to increase my average to above my contractual thinking that would increase my weekly average and have only today seen that maternity has affected - is this correct that you average is impacted my maternity leave? Or can anyone direct me to any info on this please

I would imagine it's because maternity leave is paid 14 weeks at full pay, and then 25 weeks at a lower rate if I remember correctly. It will be the fact that you've had 25 weeks at a lower rate that will make your average lower over the previous 52 weeks

They will pay whatever is higher, average or contractual so you won't lose out

Redshoes

Quote from: Nightworker on 17-04-23, 07:35PM
Quote from: Redshoes on 17-04-23, 03:57PMYou need to do this quickly. I did mine last week and was told it was time sensitive then.

Can you post the address to send to on here please Red
Thank you

You email it to the pension team and copy in your store manager and group pm.

Vitascope

Any idea if get our bonus and any banked holiday owed?
When would this be paid?

5fdp


Vitascope

Will the colleague discount card run out April or May's payday?

5fdp

You leave the company at the end of April. So April it is.

Gknowsbest

For those poor souls staying put..... is the pay rise really only 4.5%

Morris999

Heard it's even less than 4.5%, however will have to wait and see come May.

lucgeo

Quote from: Vitascope on 19-04-23, 03:41PMWill the colleague discount card run out April or May's payday?

It will cease to operate the day after your last day on the payroll...so if you're final pay/redundancy etc is paid in May, whilst you're still on the books, you're still an employee with an employee number awaiting your final pay and therefore eligible for the discount.
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Leavingonajetplane

I have my last meeting on the 27th and work into the 28th , I'm being told I have to work the 28th into the 29th too is this correct as I'm sure I read new roles start the 28th

JJH

Quote from: Gknowsbest on 19-04-23, 05:34PMFor those poor souls staying put..... is the pay rise really only 4.5%

Non performance related?

Mrs sparrow

Quote from: Leavingonajetplane on 20-04-23, 09:21AMI have my last meeting on the 27th and work into the 28th , I'm being told I have to work the 28th into the 29th too is this correct as I'm sure I read new roles start the 28th
My last day is Saturday 29th so that would be correct as long as you are usually contracted to work Friday nights.

Leavingonajetplane

#1544
👍👍👍 thanks

Iamgrute

Quote from: Gknowsbest on 19-04-23, 05:34PMFor those poor souls staying put..... is the pay rise really only 4.5%
where have you heard this

Nightowl25

#1546
The pay rise will depend upon where you are in the new pay bandings.
Anywhere from 5% to 21% for newly appointed team managers.

NorthbyNorthwest

....which probably means if you're at the top of the payscale you'll get 5% and if you're at the bottom 6% ( as your performance wasn't enough for the bigger pay rise ).

Whatoncewas

Has anything been mentioned about the 4 day working week for night managers yet. The original comms made it sound like it would be live in week 10 but we still haven't had any more information or had the option put to us.

Smiley1327

Quote from: Whatoncewas on 23-04-23, 09:19AMHas anything been mentioned about the 4 day working week for night managers yet. The original comms made it sound like it would be live in week 10 but we still haven't had any more information or had the option put to us.


In the collective consultation notes (Meeting 4) they mention that they are going to trail it across 4 large format groups it goes on to say the following "Feedback from the trial will be reviewed, with the hope that if the trial has been positive, 4-
night working will be implemented across all large format night operations from Week 26." Week 26 is wc 20th August so looks like few more months of 5 nights weeks  ???

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