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Title: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Bobmay on 31-01-23, 11:33AM
Hello as many of you expected Tesco is has decided to cut down staff numbers in the following places. Nights there will be no more nights in an few more stores. Secondly pharmacy workers a few pharmacy will be closing down which is surprising to many. And finally managers. Here is the full texts from our tesco.




Dear colleagues

Today, we're announcing some proposed changes to our UK business to ensure we remain focused and competitive in a fast-changing market.

We continually review the way we operate to make sure we are meeting customers' needs and supporting colleagues in a sustainable way. This means doing more of what works and stopping or simplifying where we need to, so that we're running our business as efficiently as possible.

This also means making some difficult but necessary decisions, but will ensure we can continue to invest in the things that matter most for our customers and business. These proposed changes include:

Management changes

Over the last couple of years, we have started rolling out a new management structure in approximately 350 of our smaller Superstores, which better reflects the needs of our stores.
We have now taken the decision to extend this structure across all our larger Superstores and Extra stores.
We will introduce over 1,800 new Shift Leader roles in these stores, leading on the day-to-day operational duties on the shop floor.
We will also realign our manager roles to ensure they are all of equal size and complexity, focusing on overall store performance and supporting our colleagues to serve their customers, communities and planet a little better every day.
With the introduction of these new Shift Leader roles and realignment of management roles, we have taken the difficult decision to reduce the number of Lead and Team Managers in our large stores, impacting around 1,750 colleagues.
We are supporting colleagues impacted by these changes, who will have the option of moving into Shift Leader vacancies with financial support or taking redundancy.
Counter closures

We first announced changes to our counters back in 2019, and we've been reviewing them on an ongoing basis ever since.
We have seen a significant decrease in demand for our counters over the last few years, and our customers no longer say they are a significant reason for them to come in store and shop with us. Instead, they are choosing to buy from our wide range of great quality products available in our aisles.
The majority of our stores no longer operate any counters. In the small number of stores that do still have them, many are only open with reduced days and times – and we have strengthened our in-aisle ranges to ensure that customers can still find the meat, fish and deli products they want.
We have therefore decided to close our remaining counters and hot delis from 26 February, and the space will be repurposed to better reflect our customers' needs. All affected colleagues will be offered alternatives roles in store.
Where we can work with a third party to offer a counter experience in-store, we will continue to do so.
Our management changes will see us introduce as many roles as we're removing and there will be no redundancies as part of the changes to our counters.

In addition to the changes above, there are a small number of other localised changes across our business that we are talking to colleagues about. In our stores, this will include the closure of eight pharmacies, where there are other pharmacies within one mile of our store, moving overnight roles to the day time in 12 stores and reducing hours within some Post Offices. We are also removing a small number of roles in different functions of our Head Office and closing the Tesco Maintenance National Operating Centre (NOC) in Milton Keynes. Taking into account all the localised changes, we expect this to impact around 350 roles across the business.

Managers in teams that are affected in Head Office have already reached out to impacted colleagues to inform and support them. We will now enter a consultation process with USDAW on these proposals. Our priority is to support colleagues impacted by these changes and help them find alternative roles within our business. We currently have around 2,000 vacancies, in addition to the more than 1,800 new shift leader roles we will be introducing to stores.

These are difficult decisions to make, but they are necessary to ensure we remain focused on delivering value for our customers wherever we can as well as ensuring our store offer reflects what our customers value the most.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Bobmay on 31-01-23, 11:41AM
If you are affected make sure you take redundancy tesco is becoming extremely more difficult place to work.I had one colleague who regreted not taking redundancy and now is working far more harder than before with more pressure. Tesco going forward will resemble how aldi lidl are with less workers and more work to do.Even though some people disagree this is the future of where tesco is heading. Take redundancy and find better job go back to education etc.Tesco is profit driven now.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: jonty on 31-01-23, 11:52AM
Have a day off mate  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: spike_pkh on 31-01-23, 12:01PM
"Tesco is profit driven now"

A company, whose purpose is to sell stuff and make profits, being driven by profit margins.. how dare they!
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Freeatlast on 31-01-23, 12:17PM
Grim reaper strikes again! So sorry for former colleagues who have been affected by this change today. Many who have given most of their lives to dear old Tesco.
I got out earlier last year as saw what was coming along after 26 years service. Have had no regrets, better work life balance, valued for my skills and chance for progression in a growing business.
There is a better life outside of Tesco as many will testify. It still sucks to go through the process though. I had 2 rounds of having to take a different role with re-structures.
All the best to those affected!
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Bobmay on 31-01-23, 12:58PM
Quote from: spike_pkh on 31-01-23, 12:01PM"Tesco is profit driven now"

A company, whose purpose is to sell stuff and make profits, being driven by profit margins.. how dare they!

Before Tesco was flooded with many staff members.  Now it is struggling with no staff members it is far worse than before.  Before it was driven by profit but not extremely driven by it.  Now it is extremely driven by profit no matter what.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: lordadmiral on 31-01-23, 02:51PM
Look for a job in IT, the shortage is huge. I am working as software developer after 15 years at tesco.
Just spend some time learning some basics.
Pressure is way lower and pay is better.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: penguin on 31-01-23, 04:44PM
Quote from: Bobmay on 31-01-23, 12:58PM
Quote from: spike_pkh on 31-01-23, 12:01PM"Tesco is profit driven now"

A company, whose purpose is to sell stuff and make profits, being driven by profit margins.. how dare they!

Before Tesco was flooded with many staff members.  Now it is struggling with no staff members it is far worse than before.  Before it was driven by profit but not extremely driven by it.  Now it is extremely driven by profit no matter what.

It was always all about profit, if you think otherwise stick the names of a few former senior managers and directors into google and read the stories, there in no way made up. The only difference 15 or so years ago was as the good times were rolling money could be found for things like full time hot food in store for staff, decent benefits by the standards of retail work etc etc. The second it all started to go wrong it was the front line staff who lost out on such things first to keep those at the top from missing out.

Anyway it matters not to me anymore I left back in 2020 and not looked back since, work in a factory now earn more than ever did at Tesco for doing less hours and far better chances for promotion as the company I am with are expanding massively at present due to increased demand for its products.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: sunshineman on 31-01-23, 05:02PM
Quote from: lordadmiral on 31-01-23, 02:51PMLook for a job in IT, the shortage is huge. I am working as software developer after 15 years at tesco.
Just spend some time learning some basics.
Pressure is way lower and pay is better.
where did you do your training, this sounds like a great idea
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Ibanker2 on 31-01-23, 06:12PM
I decided to retire early 18 months ago....I worked in a small Superstore....no redundancy offered to Team Managers then ...change was going to be organic...So I missed out on a nice cheque...

If you walk round the store with Shift Leaders in place it's laughable....in my opinion zero leadership....The remaining Team Managers are clerks....paper chasers...Wonder if we can get colleagues to self discipline.....do that and the last Manager can put the lights out as they leave

Tesco has finally dumbed down the entire culture..

As many have said there is life and work outside Tesco....I know I helped talented colleagues take that step....and leave ....

 

Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Redshoes on 31-01-23, 07:40PM
Quote from: Bobmay on 31-01-23, 12:58PM
Quote from: spike_pkh on 31-01-23, 12:01PM"Tesco is profit driven now"

A company, whose purpose is to sell stuff and make profits, being driven by profit margins.. how dare they!

Before Tesco was flooded with many staff members.  Now it is struggling with no staff members it is far worse than before.  Before it was driven by profit but not extremely driven by it.  Now it is extremely driven by profit no matter what.

A private company will always be driven by profit. If it was not it would go out of business. It has just become more difficult to make that profit. It's the same as trying to balance personal finances.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Checkout Superstar on 31-01-23, 07:42PM
For the 3rd year running you can bet colleagues do not recommend Tesco as a great place to work on EVM but Tesco seem to wear that title like a badge of honour now.

 
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Albert on 31-01-23, 08:39PM
How is it that Managers will be offered redundancy and Checkout Team Support weren't, when they were moved to off till activity role??
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: randomworker on 31-01-23, 08:53PM
Quote from: Checkout Superstar on 31-01-23, 07:42PMFor the 3rd year running you can bet colleagues do not recommend Tesco as a great place to work on EVM but Tesco seem to wear that title like a badge of honour now.

 

I did because if I didn't then why the hell Im I still working there if it's a c**p place to work  ;D
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: WhateverTrever on 31-01-23, 09:09PM
Sooo glad I left back in 2020. The changes were always on the cards back then with the natural slimming of management structure, waiting until the most cost efficient time to strike.

As a few have said, its a profit driven decision and Tesco are only as good as the profit they deliver. Only time will tell if this actually drives profit or when compounded with the rest of the changes, has the opposite effect.

Best wishes to those affected. If you can afford the risk, take redundancy. Your life balance will improve.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: londoner83 on 31-01-23, 10:01PM
Whether you should take redundancy is a individual decision.

 If you won't get much of a payout and live in a area of high unemployment you may be better to try and remain in a role. Likewise if you are nearing retirement or are comfortable you can secure alternative employment quickly you may be better of leaving.

However as I understand it as it stands if u are offered a role, and turn it down redundancy isn't a option.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Hammer10 on 31-01-23, 10:32PM
Just think how much profit the company could make if they ran it properly and not like they were playing fantasy shop keeping.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Redshoes on 01-02-23, 12:52AM
It's not a choice thing. It's all done on score. The managers that score highest get the jobs. As they have jobs the redundancy is not on offer. If they don't score enough to get a manager job it's then shift lead or redundancy.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Bobmay on 01-02-23, 12:55AM
Quote from: lordadmiral on 31-01-23, 02:51PMLook for a job in IT, the shortage is huge. I am working as software developer after 15 years at tesco.
Just spend some time learning some basics.
Pressure is way lower and pay is better.

I agree there are so many course you can do now for a few mo ths get an certificate than get an job easily in IT industry and the good thing about it is that it is good pay and there is an shortage of people working in IT in the UK.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Bobmay on 01-02-23, 12:58AM
Quote from: Albert on 31-01-23, 08:39PMHow is it that Managers will be offered redundancy and Checkout Team Support weren't, when they were moved to off till activity role??

There is more cuts coming again soon to more places. So don't be surprised when it comes Tesco stated they will be saving 1 billion by this year and next year.  As less customers spend less money the more Tesco will cut down staff numbers.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Bobmay on 01-02-23, 01:01AM
Quote from: londoner83 on 31-01-23, 10:01PMWhether you should take redundancy is a individual decision.

 If you won't get much of a payout and live in a area of high unemployment you may be better to try and remain in a role. Likewise if you are nearing retirement or are comfortable you can secure alternative employment quickly you may be better of leaving.

However as I understand it as it stands if u are offered a role, and turn it down redundancy isn't a option.

If they offer an role which the individual isn't able to do than ofcourse they won't do it. The tesco will have to pay redundancy. For example if an person isn't able to change their hours thsn Tesco has to pay redundancy
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: randomworker on 01-02-23, 03:36AM
Quote from: Hammer10 on 31-01-23, 10:32PMJust think how much profit the company could make if they ran it properly and not like they were playing fantasy shop keeping.

Are you hidden business guru?

How would you make a company rich in profit in an industry that is cut throat competitive and no innovation is left to generate large amount of wealth?

Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Hammer10 on 01-02-23, 06:03AM
What I was saying I go round different store in a course of a week and see so much more that could be done to benefit the customer like fill more shelves once the dot com has decimated them if more staff were employed to fill those shelves more money could be taken you look on the faces of customers who want something but it's not there also not enough staff on shop floor to do the customer service or put off the shop lifting that is rife now granted it may cost a little bit more but it would be outweighed by the takings and I am not talking about alot of staff just enough to top shelves up from lunchtime onwards for about 4 hours so the customer can get what they want.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: randomworker on 01-02-23, 08:19AM
Very simplistic solutions to a problem that can never be fixed. Free market competition between all the supermarkets will keep prices low and thus put a squeeze on profit margins which are low margin to begin with.

Labour is the biggest drag on the supermarkets and the last thing they will do is throw more bodies at it. Though what Tesco can do and is doing is learning from Aldi and lidli on getting more out of their employees

Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Attilla on 01-02-23, 12:49PM
😂
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: General Thorn on 01-02-23, 01:00PM
Quote from: Hammer10 on 01-02-23, 06:03AMWhat I was saying I go round different store in a course of a week and see so much more that could be done to benefit the customer like fill more shelves once the dot com has decimated them if more staff were employed to fill those shelves more money could be taken you look on the faces of customers who want something but it's not there also not enough staff on shop floor to do the customer service or put off the shop lifting that is rife now granted it may cost a little bit more but it would be outweighed by the takings and I am not talking about alot of staff just enough to top shelves up from lunchtime onwards for about 4 hours so the customer can get what they want.

 :thumbup:  :thumbup:  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: barafear on 01-02-23, 01:02PM
Quote from: randomworker on 01-02-23, 08:19AMVery simplistic solutions to a problem that can never be fixed. Free market competition between all the supermarkets will keep prices low and thus put a squeeze on profit margins which are low margin to begin with.

Labour is the biggest drag on the supermarkets and the last thing they will do is throw more bodies at it. Though what Tesco can do and is doing is learning from Aldi and lidli on getting more out of their employees


Free Competition = Lower Prices?
Did you not read the update from Kantar yesterday showing year on year grocery inflation of nearly 17%?

As we've seen on other threads here, "lower prices/better value" etc. are all just a marketing ploy.

The figures (17% inflation) do not lie.

Even Aldi prices are increasing at this level -



Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: barafear on 01-02-23, 01:09PM
Quote from: General Thorn on 01-02-23, 01:00PM
Quote from: Hammer10 on 01-02-23, 06:03AMWhat I was saying I go round different store in a course of a week and see so much more that could be done to benefit the customer like fill more shelves once the dot com has decimated them if more staff were employed to fill those shelves more money could be taken you look on the faces of customers who want something but it's not there also not enough staff on shop floor to do the customer service or put off the shop lifting that is rife now granted it may cost a little bit more but it would be outweighed by the takings and I am not talking about a lot of staff just enough to top shelves up from lunchtime onwards for about 4 hours so the customer can get what they want.

 :thumbup:  :thumbup:  :thumbup:


I don't know the numbers but I guess there are a number of things to critique:

Dot com = fewer customers coming into store = fewer staff required in store to "serve" such customers. I don't mean just on the tills, I mean to answer questions around the shop etc.
Of course, those customers still need their products, therefore someone still needs to fill the shelves unless we start doing dot com straight from the warehouse!

Cost of Living crisis = in theory this means customers are buying less - so even those that do come in are buying less - and although they might be frustrated by lack of products, they are not as bothered as before because in theory it probably helps to keep them within budget if there are things that they cannot buy!!

Finally I guess that in theory the new ways of working from Oct should mean there are sufficient staff to fill the shelves?
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Mickymouse1962 on 01-02-23, 02:14PM
I would have taken redundancy in a flash if offered security are small department in my store just 1 security 1 manager
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Doggiedoodle on 01-02-23, 10:50PM
Does anyone know which 12 stores are affected by moving nights to days?
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Duff McKagan on 02-02-23, 06:36AM
Yesterday I was informed that our night team was safe, I then learned that the 12 stores losing nights haven't yet been informed so I approached my manager and asked how he can say we are safe when the stores haven't been informed....he couldn't answer.

So is it a case that the 12 stores haven't been named or is it that they haven't even been told yet, in which case there are no safe stores as of yet.

It's wrong to give a false sense of security and say we're safe when we might well not be. Some people in my store are quite anxious about potential redundancy so prematurely telling them they're safe, only to find out in a few weeks that we aren't is a bit cruel, would have been better to just be honest and say I don't know.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Brez on 02-02-23, 08:00AM
If your store has already had meetings with the night managers around losing the lead, moving to a 4 day work week & recruiting shift leaders then your night shift will be safe.

If it's been radio silence then the writing is on the wall.

Pretty easy to deduce if your store is safe from losing the night crew.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Bobmay on 02-02-23, 09:29AM
Quote from: Mickymouse1962 on 01-02-23, 02:14PMI would have taken redundancy in a flash if offered security are small department in my store just 1 security 1 manager

Guarantee you will be getting removed soon especially if your contract isn't part of the new contract.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Bobmay on 02-02-23, 09:41AM
The nights that are going in my opinion are small store like ex metro stores that still have nights and superstores.Those two will be majority of the ones that will remove nights.Espcially the metro stores that espress stores. The remaining will be extra.Also many stores have already been informed if they are removing nights. One person who works espress store former metro has confirmed they are removing night from his store. It makes sense for Tesco to save money by going from filling in night in small stores to filling in morning and evening. For example I work night shift in espress store former metro.I get nearly 14 pound an hour  15.60 an hour right now on Saturday. The store I work at was extremely busy now a days in very quiet I will going into work on friday so will find out wether my store is keeping night or removing them. Good luck to everyone remember to take the redundancy and not look back you will get better elsewhere.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Preacherpauly on 02-02-23, 09:54AM
Looks like the higher ups aren't making enough millions.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Doggiedoodle on 02-02-23, 12:31PM
Quote from: Duff McKagan on 02-02-23, 06:36AMYesterday I was informed that our night team was safe, I then learned that the 12 stores losing nights haven't yet been informed so I approached my manager and asked how he can say we are safe when the stores haven't been informed....he couldn't answer.

So is it a case that the 12 stores haven't been named or is it that they haven't even been told yet, in which case there are no safe stores as of yet.

It's wrong to give a false sense of security and say we're safe when we might well not be. Some people in my store are quite anxious about potential redundancy so prematurely telling them they're safe, only to find out in a few weeks that we aren't is a bit cruel, would have been better to just be honest and say I don't know.

why can't they just let the affected people know instead of leaving them in limbo! Typical Tesco no thought for staff just bothered about profit 😡
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: rockley200 on 05-02-23, 01:18AM
Why are .com managers not in the management cull? It's a joke, in our store they are the most LAZY!!
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: kaled78 on 05-02-23, 08:23AM
Same with ours, she just sits in the office all day and loves to invent extra paperwork/routines that the company does not even say need doing.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: forrestgimp on 05-02-23, 06:00PM
Quote from: Bobmay on 02-02-23, 09:29AM
Quote from: Mickymouse1962 on 01-02-23, 02:14PMI would have taken redundancy in a flash if offered security are small department in my store just 1 security 1 manager

Guarantee you will be getting removed soon especially if your contract isn't part of the new contract.

You cant guarantee anything......
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: filling-machine on 07-02-23, 12:15AM
Quote from: Brez on 02-02-23, 08:00AMIf your store has already had meetings with the night managers around losing the lead, moving to a 4 day work week & recruiting shift leaders then your night shift will be safe.

If it's been radio silence then the writing is on the wall.

Pretty easy to deduce if your store is safe from losing the night crew.

All we were told in the briefing is that night managers will be given the "option" to work 4 nights, which seems to suggest there may be a "price" to pay for taking the option. Maybe 20% cut in night premium? Tesco wouldn't be doing it unless there was a benefit to the bottom line.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Ducking Hell on 09-03-23, 04:22PM
Aren't nights going all together ... I heard a rumour
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Nomad on 09-03-23, 05:15PM
@Ducking Hell, I think this forum has been down that road on more than one occasion.

Have a read around the forum.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: T.C.1 on 09-03-23, 08:19PM
As they have just sorted out the structure for night managers I shouldn't think so but with Tesco you never know.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: kaled78 on 09-03-23, 08:25PM
also I have known stores to have appointed roles only for them to be axed 3 months later,so never assume everyone is 100% safe
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: chris9997 on 09-03-23, 09:43PM
Personally when the app starts allocating roles to all staff and the serve pick and fill is fully operational ,then we may see night staff targeted
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Himynameus on 10-03-23, 12:33AM
It's going to start allocating on the app in week 8 for week 11 for it to start moving people round as you find out 3 week before
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Redshoes on 10-03-23, 11:02AM
Quote from: chris9997 on 09-03-23, 09:43PMPersonally when the app starts allocating roles to all staff and the serve pick and fill is fully operational ,then we may see night staff targeted


This is correct but there is a bit of a difference between stores advertising to fill a vacancy and the company rolling out a structure change. Stores should not have advance knowledge to structure changes so should carry on as normal.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Hammer10 on 11-03-23, 06:18AM
The shift leader role is too big for little money can't see it working in big stores .
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: madness on 11-03-23, 03:20PM
Quote from: Himynameus on 10-03-23, 12:33AMIt's going to start allocating on the app in week 8 for week 11 for it to start moving people round as you find out 3 week before
Can't wait for that poop show to start.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: kaled78 on 11-03-23, 04:52PM
we have a lot of staff that don't even have mobile phones,yet alone use the app,I guess unless the new shift leaders tell them different,they will just work on their existing deptartments as usual
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: lucgeo on 11-03-23, 05:00PM
 8-) think that should come under "tools for the job"  ???

If they want you to use an app, then they need to provide the equipment to access it, can't discipline somebody who doesn't have the means or know how to access work related information!

If it's anything like the PDA farce...there'll be little, if any progress for the foreseeable  :-X
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: King1999 on 11-03-23, 05:22PM
Waiting for the bullying to start to make this shitty system work,that's the only way it will work.  >:D
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 11-03-23, 07:01PM
Quote from: lucgeo on 11-03-23, 05:00PM8-) think that should come under "tools for the job"  ???

If they want you to use an app, then they need to provide the equipment to access it, can't discipline somebody who doesn't have the means or know how to access work related information!

If it's anything like the PDA farce...there'll be little, if any progress for the foreseeable  :-X

Exactly 😂, the aim is to have atleast 80% of colleagues trained up for it around by time it gets near and 90 something in June 😂, ours is sat at about 46% trained, most can't access, there is still the paper sheets about for dot com and for checkout overtime, same for night etc.. So will be interesting to see the farce of it all in play.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: londoner83 on 11-03-23, 07:29PM
Plus can't wait for Jane Doe who has spent years sitting down on a till to be presented with 12 cages of frozen and told they must fill it all b4 they go home.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Redshoes on 12-03-23, 10:45AM
Jane Doe has probably hit her scan targets, has hit her service targets etc. It could well be John Doe on shop floor who ends up on a till who will have to smile and chat with customers. Checkout hours in most stores are very tight. If Jane Doe is needed on shop floor it's as support and unlikely to be for a shift. You would not put someone from the shop floor straight to CSD, even as a second body and you would not put someone from checkouts to a heavy aisle. A bit of reality and less of a vindictive attitude is needed.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: BritishRacingGreen on 12-03-23, 12:21PM
Quote from: Redshoes on 12-03-23, 10:45AMA bit of reality and less of a vindictive attitude is needed.

 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: grim up north on 12-03-23, 01:39PM
Quote from: Redshoes on 12-03-23, 10:45AMJane Doe has probably hit her scan targets, has hit her service targets etc. It could well be John Doe on shop floor who ends up on a till who will have to smile and chat with customers. Checkout hours in most stores are very tight. If Jane Doe is needed on shop floor it's as support and unlikely to be for a shift. You would not put someone from the shop floor straight to CSD, even as a second body and you would not put someone from checkouts to a heavy aisle. A bit of reality and less of a vindictive attitude is needed.

Is it 'you' putting the person on heavy stuff or 'the system'? Reading on here you folks have said how 'the system' just puts people where they are needed and it doesnt worry if so and so doesn't like heavy boxes
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: dizzy_1 on 12-03-23, 02:10PM
How I understood it, if Jane Doe has Freezers on her skills set then she could be scheduled to do a few hours there to cover the shortfall. If John Doe only has checkouts/cds then that's where he would stay or maybe asked to face off or a cardboard run. You should only be moved if you are trained on that dept. How that actually works in practice is anyone's guess.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: kaled78 on 13-03-23, 05:44PM
What's with the rollout of training over 25 people on backdoor, are they planning to make backdoor men redundant or just relaunching tip and fill?
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: 5fdp on 13-03-23, 06:08PM
Can't make backdoor staff redundant as they are ga's just like the rest of you. Try and understand that all staff are ga's and there will be no redundancy unless you work nights. The rest of you will be here until you retire.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: King1999 on 14-03-23, 12:50PM
Understand if it will save them money they will carry on with the self destruction, profit over people.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Voulezvous on 12-04-23, 12:16PM
Any other stores with a nightshift noticed later deliveries than usual? Our store used to get fresh delivery at 1am but the past few weeks its 4am or later, its even on the inform app as 4am now, is this the start of the final cull of nightshift?
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Morris999 on 12-04-23, 12:37PM
I believe it's to do with some fresh distribution centres having to deliver to the PFS's at store's soon instead of Bookers!
Hence the Comms about a month ago telling stores to have about 25% of colleagues backdoor trained, which I believe has been reduced to 15% now.
All PFS's if not already will be visited by someone for distribution to do a risk assessment for the deliveries to happen on the forecourt!
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: 5fdp on 12-04-23, 05:53PM
Distribution in livi has started a new system called hive. Its to make the delivery system more efficient.  At the moment its pushing deliveries to about 4am and also full wagons of stock rather than the balance. This is having a big impact on stores. It will gradually change to earlier times eg 2am but you will still get the full wagon if stock rather than the balance. It might mean that fresh staff go into grocery to help fill in order to get grocery staff out to help later in fresh. It will be at present saving a few quid at the depots but the stores are suffering because of it. Thereby losing sales as the stores are not finished by 7am.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Bobmay on 21-04-23, 12:28AM
Quote from: Voulezvous on 12-04-23, 12:16PMAny other stores with a night shift noticed later deliveries than usual? Our store used to get fresh delivery at 1am but the past few weeks its 4am or later, its even on the inform app as 4am now, is this the start of the final cull of night shift?

Yes in my store we used to receive delivery coming in at 22.00 the earliest and now it is coming at 17.00 to 19.00. One individual has stated that before they removed nights in his store delivery times changed and became earlier.  So I do think that in your store they will cut it either fully or partially.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Bobmay on 21-04-23, 12:31AM
Quote from: Morris999 on 12-04-23, 12:37PMI believe it's to do with some fresh distribution centres having to deliver to the PFS's at store's soon instead of Bookers!
Hence the Comms about a month ago telling stores to have about 25% of colleagues backdoor trained, which I believe has been reduced to 15% now.
All PFS's if not already will be visited by someone for distribution to do a risk assessment for the deliveries to happen on the forecourt!

My store the fresh and delivery are both coming inat early times never happened before ever
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Redshoes on 21-04-23, 07:38AM
We have had someone from distribution visit us about deliveries to pfs. They said they needed to see that a lorry was able to deliver to the pfs or if the drop off would have to be at the store. I pointed out that the pfs was able to have a tanker deliver. The tanker lane has to be kept clear but if tankers were able to deliver and fuel up at a site they should also be able to take deliveries that come off a lorry.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: newguy20 on 23-04-23, 05:00PM
Same here. Our lorry parks in the tanker bay when it arrives.  If there's a tanker there when Bookers arrive, we put Bookers on the far lane (p@p only).
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Bobmay on 30-04-23, 03:22AM
In my store as well they have stated they will be looking to review the nights either cut it or not this year around the summer autumn time. It is strange how delivery is coming in far earlier which is probably a sign they risk cut nights. I also stated before that the main reason Tesco brought in this new system pick fill serve is so that they can remove the nights or cut them and get more people fo fill.Saving them millions in night shift pay and insurance.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: BritishRacingGreen on 30-04-23, 05:28AM
And ... We're off again eh Bob ... ?
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Specialone on 30-04-23, 07:49AM
Anyone else still able to access store apps/ inform etc? Mine still working and made redundant yesterday
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: 5fdp on 30-04-23, 07:59AM
Hope springs eternal bob
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Drastic on 30-04-23, 09:41AM
Quote from: 5fdp on 30-04-23, 07:59AMHope springs eternal bob
;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: whatajoke2019 on 30-04-23, 11:39AM
Quote from: Specialone on 30-04-23, 07:49AMAnyone else still able to access store apps/ inform etc? Mine still working and made redundant yesterday

I wonder if your 'end date' hasn't gone through the system yet? My night lead who left Saturday said the outgoing colleagues in our store were still showing on the scheduler screen for weeks ahead yet.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: 5fdp on 30-04-23, 04:07PM
You will be able to access your details for a week, so make sure you download and print payslips and p60
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: BritishRacingGreen on 30-04-23, 04:58PM
Wouldn't access continue until May playdate 5fdp?
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Joe Lytton on 30-04-23, 08:09PM
Is there such a thing as pre 96 rights in England?.
I am in Ireland and there are very few of us staff left in the country.
They first tried changing our terms and conditions 7 years ago.
They tried in February again but no one went for it thank f***.
They were a few pay rises we were refused as we refused to budge.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Hazelgrif on 01-05-23, 10:58PM
Quote from: newguy20 on 23-04-23, 05:00PMSame here. Our lorry parks in the tanker bay when it arrives.  If there's a tanker there when Bookers arrive, we put Bookers on the far lane (p@p only).


How are you getting away with putting bookers in pay@pump lanes while tanker on site,,as delivery risk assessment states that fuel tankers take priority over any delivery, and other deliveries can not be made while tanker on site.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Bobmay on 04-05-23, 05:58PM
Quote from: 5fdp on 30-04-23, 07:59AMHope springs eternal bob

Considering it is a tesco express and the last few ones that have night shift.I strongly belive they will remove nights. They are already paying us 14.30 an hour per and on Saturdays and bank holidays 16.60 an hour. Plus they stated already they will have a review in spring time. They already change the time of delivery with it coming far earlier it is only time when theh will cut it.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Voulezvous on 17-05-23, 03:09PM
Any other nightshift staffed stores still getting fresh deliveries in 4am instead of 1am? Job14 getting moved to mornings, less checkouts come the summertime too, so more staff free to fill during the day, this is crying out that nightshift will be going soon. Extra in Central Scotland
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Beanny on 17-05-23, 06:53PM
Start of week delivery comes in at around 1am when plenty of drivers. Starts coming in between 3 and 4am towards end of week when a lot less drivers and heavier loads. Bonkers!!😡😡
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Bobmay on 22-05-23, 12:39PM
Quote from: Voulezvous on 17-05-23, 03:09PMAny other nightshift staffed stores still getting fresh deliveries in 4am instead of 1am? Job14 getting moved to mornings, less checkouts come the summertime too, so more staff free to fill during the day, this is crying out that nightshift will be going soon. Extra in Central Scotland

Various times throughout the week we have fresh delivery coming in at 3 and 4 especially the weekends sometimes coming in very late at 4.40. I strongly believe they will remove nights soon.Why people to have night shift and higher insurance when you can have less staff and people filling in twilight hours morning and evening.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: MerchMan007 on 22-05-23, 07:18PM
Still counting down the days eh Bobmay . Hope you don't reach retirement before your dream is realised  :P
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: whatajoke2019 on 24-05-23, 09:52AM
Who knows what the big T have got lined up over the next few months/years - with the new contracts it's going to be harder to get that redundancy.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Bobmay on 25-05-23, 01:24PM
Quote from: whatajoke2019 on 24-05-23, 09:52AMWho knows what the big T have got lined up over the next few months/years - with the new contracts it's going to be harder to get that redundancy.

Agreed however for night staff pharmacy workers phone shop workers delivery drivers they are the only ones who will get redundancy I don't see any one else getting it especually with contract change.
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: lackofinterest on 25-05-23, 03:02PM
just goes to show how s**t the company has become when it seems more people want redundancy than keep their job ???
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Deckard73 on 30-05-23, 07:40AM
Tesco Lost £9bn from our pension!

Already posted in News articles (https://www.verylittlehelps.com/index.php?topic=16460.msg260358#msg260358)
Title: Re: Job cuts including nights Pharmacy workers night workers.
Post by: Bobmay on 30-05-23, 08:50AM
Quote from: lackofinterest on 25-05-23, 03:02PMjust goes to show how s**t the company has become when it seems more people want redundancy than keep their job ???
Considering that tesco wants to model their stores like aldi avd lidl it isn't surprising. No staff more stress no bonus to stay