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Will Tesco follow Asda.....

Started by londoner83, 25-02-21, 11:55AM

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Decco1

Anyone have any idea what’s going to happen to night managers?

lfcni1986

Not great news for any recently signed off managers or anyone nearing their options journey then? Which is strange as our store has really been pushing options as of late.

burningskies

I wonder if they'll offer managers who aren't yet signed off the shift leader roles, instead of a team manager role. Since they technically aren't team managers yet it would make sense.

emma070706

Quote from: lfcni1986 on 02-03-21, 03:45PM
Not great news for any recently signed off managers or anyone nearing their options journey then? Which is strange as our store has really been pushing options as of late.

So that they had ready made shift leaders one could assume.

emma070706

Quote from: trolleyboy96 on 02-03-21, 03:32PM
Been told today the stock / admin manager in our store, goes from 15 staff up to 48 she will pick up produce, csd and dairy....additional to stock/admin...med superstore.

This just indicates how different each store is. Our store is an Extra with very large dot com, would take stock and admin headcount from 27 to 65/70. Going to be very interesting.

2ndtimeround

Redundancy is to expensive to offer as an option now, it’s far cheaper to lean on people using the SYP process and push them out instead. 🤷🏻‍â™,️

Colleague 3000000

Anyone see the amount of people online right now.

Lots of worry and confusion?

With the pandemic on right now. Do you think the union or individual stores are united enough to ballet for strike action?

burningskies

Thought the same. Can see why people are worried though, TL's dropping to GA pay could struggle to cover bills, etc.

dotnochance

why do u think they have done it at this time, no one cou;d trun down a job change they can do what they want

whatajoke2019

Might be mistaken but didn't UselessDaw screw us over so we're unable to strike?

Nothing surprises me any more but surely someone, somewhere, is going to have to take a stand before it's too late... or is that just wishful thinking on my part?

Stubbo

All team support losing jobs should take legal advice. If your role has gone and you will eventually be on lower pay fight for redundancy. It's been done before.

Tosco19

Quote from: emma070706 on 02-03-21, 03:24PM
Quote from: Tosco91 on 02-03-21, 02:51PM
Yes there is a threshold for second manager, SM’s will be told that today and what bracket they fit into. Managers will stay in current structure as example below

Store currently has 12 team managers

Under new bracket / structure they are allowed 6 team managers and 4 shift leaders

There will be no shift leader roles until the number of team managers naturally decreases

How would that work with a GM manager with 8 staff and a Stock and Admin with 27? With them both being "Team Managers" no department....who do they then manage? All a bit confusing.

Our team managers have been told they won’t have departments to manage (same as eventually colleagues won’t have departments either) - the managers are all being given an equal share of the head count (dot com is excluded from this and is separate)

emma070706

Quote from: Tosco91 on 02-03-21, 05:17PM
Quote from: emma070706 on 02-03-21, 03:24PM
Quote from: Tosco91 on 02-03-21, 02:51PM
Yes there is a threshold for second manager, SM’s will be told that today and what bracket they fit into. Managers will stay in current structure as example below

Store currently has 12 team managers

Under new bracket / structure they are allowed 6 team managers and 4 shift leaders

There will be no shift leader roles until the number of team managers naturally decreases

How would that work with a GM manager with 8 staff and a Stock and Admin with 27? With them both being "Team Managers" no department....who do they then manage? All a bit confusing.

Our team managers have been told they won’t have departments to manage (same as eventually colleagues won’t have departments either) - the managers are all being given an equal share of the head count (dot com is excluded from this and is separate)

Yeah it is a similar situation in our store. But if one manager is responsible for all the staff on Fresh food then ther department is fresh food surely? If 2 managers are running fresh food operation then surely they will have a responsibility for those staff?

trolleyboy96

Ours have been told the same but with the added if you have the bulk of colleagues from a dept assigned to you then you will be responsible/accountable for that dept.


Colleague 3000000

Is it time we consider balloting for strike action, simply the thought alone would show that not all Tesco shelf fillers are spineless losers.

It’s time to show that we are more than just a number.

dotnochance

#90
but we wont

King1999

Bullies paradise ....... its the only way they will be able to run stores.

Colleague 3000000

We like our jobs.

We like our customers.

We like our colleagues.

We like it even though it is shelf filling.

We want to be treated with dignity and respect.

We want to have pride and honour again.

We want to talk to our reps, we want to be balloted for strike action.


Davethebave

Let’s face it, the union doesn’t have the balls to strike

barafear

apparently we cannot strike:

Some of the following is a bit irrelevant but does state the no strike agreement Usdaw and Tesco (in their partnership) made.

Usdaw No Strike Agreement
DECEMBER 19, 2020 by ADMIN
The agreement, which encompasses the entire retail sector within Tesco, was signed under the main reason that the union would be able to recruit more members in collaboration with the company. In reality, the agreement is an obstacle to action and calls into question USDAW`s independence from the company. The main reason Tesco proposed this agreement was to stop union activities. So far, it has succeeded in completely halting labour disputes. Heathrow employees will be on strike on 14, 17 and 18 December for redundancy and reinstatement projects… Workers have been stimulated by strikes. The participation rate was 67%, 73% for this. And there was a good atmosphere on the picket line that brought many of the site`s 380 employees together to talk about other topics such as workload, moral harassment and compensation. One worker told the socialist: “We went today for the ridiculous attack on our policy of presence, but it could have been for a whole series of things of which we had a whole series of things. But this strike is a good start. USDAW is the recognized union for workers employed by Tesco; As a result, it has the largest recognition agreement in the private sector and more than 160,000 (more than a third) of its members work for Tesco.

Other companies that have signed partnership agreements with USDAW are Morrisons, Sainsbury`s, The Co-operative Group, Primark, Asda, Argos and Boots. For these reasons, we need a wrestling union, considered totally independent of the company. USDAW must abandon the partnership agreement with Tesco and start fighting, as our colleagues in Dagenham have done. USDAW is the recognized union in sainsbury`s` huge distribution centre in Sherburn-in Elmet, Leeds. They were voluntarily recognized almost five years ago when the site opened. In return for the recognition, the USDAW agreed to disable the 10-hour night shift limit for road drivers, which led truck drivers to work too long at night. USDAW also signed the right to strike for all Workers in Sherburn.

Colleague 3000000

#95
Its is pretty easy to get out of a no-strike agreement its not a legally binding contract.  We just have to say that we want to strike. That's it the agreement is then over.  It becomes void then we can strike.

We just agreed not to, we just have to give them notice that we do want to. That's it.  We can strike if we want to, no court would disagree.

[admin]Please try to put more than a few words on a line and put more lines together.[/admin]

penguin

A court would disagree as by working for Tesco you accept as part of your terms and conditions the agreement between them and Usdaw known as the partnership and that includes a valid no strike clause. The only way to get it removed would be for the Union to ask Tesco to remove the clause or if new laws are passed banning such a clause.
Do not let anyone tell you there is not a decent job and life beyond Tesco.

Gooner83

On a slightly different note, I'm a said driver team support who's been off for a week, had a phone call from the store manager yesterday to explain the changes (vaguely!), anyway my question is how does the lump sum payment work? I'm seriously considering dropping back to a driver as the role looks to be significantly changing for the worse and in my opinion it will be a more hands off role which I won't enjoy in the slightest. As the rate of pay difference between myself and a driver is some £2.14 an hour anybody have an idea how the figure would be calculated?

Colleague 3000000

It’s an agreement.

You can end agreements.

It is legal for us to give notice that we want to end it.

That’s it.

We can strike.

Colleague 3000000

We can strike if we want but we are not protected from dismissal.

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