Frozen chips a veg.

[Morris999]

As long as there’s enough of it yes, just like the veg with your kebab on a Saturday night is classed as part of your 5 a day as long as there’s enough of each veg.

[alf]

So cabbage in bubble and squeak is not a veg.

Sure, but the combination of ingredients and/or the preparation of ingredients fundamentaly changes the ingredients.

A simple example toast, literally one ingredient and you simply heat it, but that simple act of heating chemically changes the bread (Maillard reaction for anyone who also googled it).

And as a side note, if you ordered your favourite bubbles and squeak and they handed you a raw cabbage and raw potato, I highly doubt you'd accept that as bubbles and squeak.

[Nomad]

I think you'll find that nutritionists concede that most forms of cooking seriously deplete the goodness derived from many forms of food, also in many cases some of the additives are added to reduce/replace the detrimental effect of the cooking.

Good debate, good 'fun'.   

What forms of cooking demote a veg from being a veg, i.e. is cabbage in a stir fry not a veg as it is mixed and covered in many other ingredients and sauce ?

[alf]

I think the acid test would be to place the item in front of a person and ask then what it is.

As the poll shows you won't get a tidy answer of course, so we may all draw our own lines in  the sand.

I just know I won't be ordering fish and potatoes for dinner.

[Nomad]

touché 

Nothing ventured nothing gained.  I did chance it and my veg voucher was accepted for frozen oven chips. 

[TheGreatArtiste]

No they are not.
While frozen chips are indeed made from potatoes, they would not be classed as a vegetable.
Would you consider a packet of crisps to be vegetables?

[alf]

rematch in 3..2...1...

[Nomad]

Food for thought 

[epsilonred]

Frozen veg comes in green boxes
Frozen potato chips come in yellow boxes
This, to me, tells me that Tesco sees them differently

[Nomad]

What Tesco see them as is not what matters.

https://www.sharecare.com/health/health-value-of-foods/are-french-fries-vegetable

As French fries come from potatoes, they are technically a vegetable.

Round 2.5