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Money off frozen veg voucher !

Are frozen crinkle chips a vegetable  :question: , if not why not  :question:

No , because there is a ton of added ingredients so it has changed from being a pure vegetable

Agree with Ravvers, those chips have a load of additives added to them, there far from a pure vegetable.

But the voucher did not contain the word 'pure', it just said spend £x or more on frozen vegetable.

I hate to think how much we buy that is advertised as such and such, and it has been messed about and added to more than a frozen chip.

So if its been added to it is different to that which they are advertising, therefore it follows that it is false advertising which is a crime.

Potato chips, potatos are a vegetable, you/they can't have it both ways  8-)

I don't know a lot about these matters but I would assume as long as the ingredients are clearly labelled on the back of the pack then there is no real case of false advertising to answer.

It does beg the question to what extent could a product be considered a veg, for example if you had a voucher saying save £1 on veg could you argue a bag of crisps were a veg considering of course there made from spuds, or a bag of frozen onion rings, this could really open up a real can of worms.

I bet it causes arguments at the checkouts if the voucher does not work , I guess front end just agree to let them have it cheaper .

penguin, I agree 'a can of worms'    :)

So if main ingredient is finest British potatos then chips & crisps,etc are a  vegetable (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetable) .

@Nomad. A vegetable is a vegetable no matter what pre-p-reparation is done to it (to a certain degree) 🤣). In this case potatoes are vegetables even though they are carbohydrates, they are still classified scientifically as vegetables. 😀

What if the potato is "prepared" by adding some meat and putting it in a pie?   :D

Now you're being silly  :D  ;D  ;)

Incidentally I did get my voucher accepted for my frozen oven chips.  8)

The devil in me hoped you would be refused your bag of discount chips Nomad!!
I know how much you enjoy the fight, especially when you is right!

Remember also that the way Tosco can bend and break Employment law, Accounting law, Elf and safety law etc I'm sure they can break the laws of nature and proclaim a potato is not a veg, if they so decree!
:D

Ah, you know me so well  ;D  :thumbup:

I’d say as the NHS and food nutritionists don’t class chips as part of your 5 a day there’s your answer🙂.

They don't class dauphinoise potatoes either.  I would hate to try and count how many vegetables they don't class as veg.  :)

i.e. Fiddleheads. Ramps. Dulse. Jicama. Kohlrabi.  :o

Quote from: Nomad on 01-02-21, 09:23PM
penguin, I agree 'a can of worms'    :)

So if main ingredient is finest British potatos then chips & crisps,etc are a  vegetable (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetable) .

I have a voucher for water. Could I use it for beer then since it's about 95% water, using that argument..?

You could use it for Bud Light as that is 100 percent water

Lol!

Give it a go, if you've got the 'bottle'  ;D nothing ventured nothing gained  :thumbup:

So, a roast potato and carrot cannot be counted as two of your five a day.

Is cider part of your 5 a day?? It's made of apples after all.

If roast potato/carrot are not veg because they're cooked then a very large number of veg are no longer veg because they are boiled or blanched etc, moreover a large number of veg are frozen when bought.

I fail to see the logic that frozen chips (cut up potato) are not veg, but packets of frozen (sliced) carrots are.  They are both cooked in some way before they are consumed.

https://www.sharecare.com/health/health-value-of-foods/are-french-fries-vegetable (https://www.sharecare.com/health/health-value-of-foods/are-french-fries-vegetable)

QuoteAs French fries come from potatoes, they are technically a vegetable.

Potatoes are not considered part of your 5 a day regardless of them being processed or unprocessed.

Are frozen/oven chips a potato, personally I say no, it's a foodstuff prepared/processed from potato and other ingredients.

So cabbage in bubble and squeak is not a veg.

Chips/fries/roast potatoes/boiled potatoes/mash potatoes or any other way you want your potatoes are not part of your 5 a day as they mainly contribute to your Starch intake.
Yes potatoes are technically a vegetable however as they are classed as a starch they do not count.

Carrots on the other hand do count as 1 of your 5 a day.
As for cooking them it makes no difference.

So cabbage in bubble and squeak is a veg, one of your 5 a day, I love bubble.  :)

As long as there’s enough of it yes, just like the veg with your kebab on a Saturday night is classed as part of your 5 a day as long as there’s enough of each veg.

Quote from: Nomad on 25-02-21, 08:45PM
So cabbage in bubble and squeak is not a veg.

Sure, but the combination of ingredients and/or the preparation of ingredients fundamentaly changes the ingredients.

A simple example toast, literally one ingredient and you simply heat it, but that simple act of heating chemically changes the bread (Maillard reaction for anyone who also googled it).

And as a side note, if you ordered your favourite bubbles and squeak and they handed you a raw cabbage and raw potato, I highly doubt you'd accept that as bubbles and squeak.

I think you'll find that nutritionists concede that most forms of cooking seriously deplete the goodness derived from many forms of food, also in many cases some of the additives are added to reduce/replace the detrimental effect of the cooking.

Good debate, good 'fun'.   8)

What forms of cooking demote a veg from being a veg, i.e. is cabbage in a stir fry not a veg as it is mixed and covered in many other ingredients and sauce ?

I think the acid test would be to place the item in front of a person and ask then what it is.

As the poll shows you won't get a tidy answer of course, so we may all draw our own lines in  the sand.

I just know I won't be ordering fish and potatoes for dinner.

touché  :)

Nothing ventured nothing gained.  I did chance it and my veg voucher was accepted for frozen oven chips.  :thumbup:

No they are not.
While frozen chips are indeed made from potatoes, they would not be classed as a vegetable.
Would you consider a packet of crisps to be vegetables?

rematch in 3..2...1...

Food for thought  :)

Frozen veg comes in green boxes
Frozen potato chips come in yellow boxes
This, to me, tells me that Tesco sees them differently :-[

What Tesco see them as is not what matters.

https://www.sharecare.com/health/health-value-of-foods/are-french-fries-vegetable (https://www.sharecare.com/health/health-value-of-foods/are-french-fries-vegetable)

QuoteAs French fries come from potatoes, they are technically a vegetable.

Round 2.5  :D