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Title: Social distancing for workers
Post by: dfl on 16-04-20, 05:14PM
Comments welcomed on what it's like in your department. I seen what happens in picking dept and to be honest all workers far to close to each other and even when not constant pass each other in close proximity often.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: dfl on 16-04-20, 06:11PM
Found same in vans, 1 driver, 1 learner, hardly 6-9 feet apart
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: gomezz on 16-04-20, 08:37PM
I had a falling out with a long time colleague over this.  Now he and everyone else who heard me explode at him keep their distance from me.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: Mark calloway on 17-04-20, 12:48PM
No such thing on our store, especially when dot com come in. 3 or 4 of them on 1 aisle right next to you.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: dirty-donkey on 17-04-20, 01:56PM
Our Dolt.Com aim to get double figures to an aisle, especially fresh meat, produce and homebake.
Newer ones are the worst, sure no-one has explained it to them -Not that it should need to be explained.
Also mob handed at the split. Four to a cage as usual.
Managers just turn a blind eye to it, and their hand-over pow-wows are almost comical to watch.
Between colleagues, there is a strange phenomena that if you 'know' them it seems OK for them to encroach the 2m area.
Usual tales of spineless managers backing down to shouty customers and not backing up checkout staff.
To be fair also a few stories also of customers being ejected.
Don't forget folks, after this we will go back from being 'valued respected key workers' to the dirt beneath the SMs shoes
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: Nomad on 17-04-20, 02:08PM
Your last sentence has a very large ring of truth, sadly humankind has a history of not learning from its mistakes.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: Hollyhock75 on 17-04-20, 03:54PM
Dot com- Renaming as lambs sent to slaughter
The last few weeks have been an absolute shambles
You can’t move in our store due to the amount of pickers, even after night staff have gone it’s still crammed and it’s almost impossible to have any space some of us are just waiting for aisles to clear before we even attempt to pick anything
My managers are constantly reminding everyone about social distancing but no one listens
Some of us have very vulnerable family members at home and are terrified of going into work now, we try our best to keep space but when you have another 60 pickers all charging into your space it’s enough to make you cry, I put myself between the trolley and the shelving but people still get in that space aswell it’s just a joke
The colleague room is full of morons all sitting next to each other cramming up the tables, other staff are still stood right next to each other like there’s no such thing as covid 19
It’s disgusting I’ve lost respect for some of my colleagues I thought they knew better I can’t even blame my dotcom managers they’re trying but how do you control almost an entire workforce of what seems to be complete idiots
The demand is high but putting it’s staff into this position is irresponsible and where it seems to the media that Tesco is doing everything it can to help the country it’s hiding the fact it’s placing its staff in jeopardy and is ignoring health and safety and government advice

Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: dfl on 17-04-20, 04:09PM
Hollyhock75, I totally agree with your sentiments, that's what I've seen in store, company turning a blind eye, I mean how can any reasonable employer expect to run a picking and despatch system whilst at the same time keeping the safe distance, the two are mutually exclusive and therefore these departments shouldn't be running.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: Bluemoon on 17-04-20, 04:27PM
No such thing in our store as social distancing. Working in the aisles and customers reaching across me to get items. Not following the arrows. It’s an absolute farce. I have spoken to my manager and he said they can’t make customers follow the rules. We are not safe.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: StinkyPoo on 17-04-20, 09:34PM
Dot com everywhere whilst us night crew try and fill. No social distancing even when you say something to them, it's a joke. No wonder customers are complaining, managers do nothing when you say you're concerned.  I'd rather be at home earning 80% than at work earning an extra 10%.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: King1999 on 17-04-20, 09:46PM
Depends how forceful you are with customers and staff,at the end of the day it’s your health and your families I’m more than happy to p**s off colleagues and customers who don’t follow the social distancing rules and one way systems and your managers should be enforcing it aswell. It’s life and death.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: captain on 18-04-20, 11:13AM
Firstly my management team are really trying their best to implement social distancing apart from break and lunch where they still are all in staff room.
Secondly if any customer comes within 2 metres of me I just glare at them and walk off that aisle completely, it slows down the work but my health is far more important than a few more bits on the shelf
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: Duff McKagan on 18-04-20, 04:05PM
Social distancing is non existent in our store also...we aren’t a large store but we do have dot com...things were going fine because we don’t have a large night crew...1 person per aisle with the exception of fresh so we were able to keep our distance very well....the management then decided to bring dot com in at 3am and from there on in it’s a s*** show....they don’t respect anyone’s space...they reach over you as you try to fill, they squeeze past and just go where they feel like. They even have the cheek to complain about us being in their way and moan that the shelves aren’t full....yes, because it’s 3am, we’re halfway through the grocery delivery and the fresh delivery isn’t even in the building yet!
It’s caused such a problem in our store that several night crew have actually taken themselves out of work to protect themselves, they would have carried on working had it not been for the decision to bring dot com in at 3am.
So now we are down on experienced staff, we have increasing delivery sizes and can’t work them efficiently because we’re having to dodge dot com pickers left right and center.
The whole point of closing the store between 10pm and 8pm was to give us time to replenish, or at least that’s what we’re told...so why then bring in pickers 3 hours earlier than normal to strip the shelves?
To me this also flies in the face of the hours set aside in store for vulnerable customers and NHS customers...we are supposedly giving them priority with an hour at 9am but what good is that if dot com have been stripping the shelves for 6 hours previously? Not really prioritising key workers at all are we!
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: HelpME23 on 18-04-20, 05:54PM
We are exactly the same! 1 person to an aisle to fill, but. Now dot com are in in the early hours and they don’t/can’t really social distance! At one count I saw 16(!!!) down the meat aisle! I’m lucky in my role that I can move and do another job if necessary which I did but I mean, this is unacceptable. Also had management strong arming people on to dot com who have had breakdowns over it, crying on the shop floor
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: captain on 18-04-20, 08:39PM
It seems, from the comments, that dot com is the main problem, I am glad I don't work ina dot com store.
So what are the unions/health and safety reps doing about it??
You should walk off the aisle if dot com pickers invade your 2 metres space and not go back until you feel safe
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: Duff McKagan on 18-04-20, 09:14PM
There are so many pickers in our store you’d never get your aisle filled if you did that....life is more important than work for sure but we still have jobs to do.

Health and safety rep in our store works in dot com...so...
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: BarryZola on 18-04-20, 11:57PM
As long as you carry on doing the job without refusing they will keep on making Dotcom the absolute priority.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: Bread to on 19-04-20, 01:55AM
Got to say I. Our store it’s  pretty much personal choice yeah customers and staff have no clue over the 2m distance rule and if you wait for there to be 2m before you fill then your gap has been taken. But on the other hand I have stood for 5 minutes waiting for a gap to appear without a comment and have picked at half the speed I normally do and no manager has even made comment.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: biggguy on 21-04-20, 03:00AM
Good bit is we miss the customers at 10pm but get the hoards at 6am lol,but our lead manager has told us to leave the aisle if too busy
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: Hoover on 21-04-20, 02:30PM
its bad in our store have reported to our night manager ,senior lead night manager, dotcom manager, store manager ,
wife came home in tears this morning and nobody in dotcom take the government advice seriously .
Have now reported it to @davelewis and contacted tesco via twtter who told me they would be in touch with store manager lets all message tesco through twitter or message @davelewis just to tell them how bad it is and change it for the better .. please ........
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: King1999 on 21-04-20, 03:39PM
Let your local press know the company love to look good nationally but in reality,you’ve got toss pots who don’t give a s*** about staff they need to be shamed for it.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: lucgeo on 21-04-20, 05:39PM
Better still, covert recording with your phone, cover your tracks...get a mate...to get a mate...to get a mate ( all unconnected to Tesco) to post it on social media.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: Twinkletoes on 21-04-20, 06:53PM
At silverburn Scotland it seems as if social dusbtancing is a joke amongst management and certain staff.   Facebook group has numerous pics of them standing next to each other for recognition, staff huddling together for chatd, dot com invading aisles by the dozen and standing next to each other or reaching over staff of they work.   If you ask management to do something about it they laugh,  tell you to keep working or say if you don't like it then go home.   No attempt made to make staff safety priority! Disgusting
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: dotnochance on 21-04-20, 07:59PM
if they say "if you dont like it and go home", do what lucgeo said "record them on your phone"say your going to report them to head office, see how funny they find it then
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: King1999 on 21-04-20, 09:48PM
Phone the protector line,be funny when they are the ones going home seriously how f***ed up is this company now.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: lucgeo on 21-04-20, 10:04PM
Quote from: Twinkletoes on 21-04-20, 06:53PM
At silverburn Scotland it seems as if social dusbtancing is a joke amongst management and certain staff.   Facebook group has numerous pics of them standing next to each other for recognition, staff huddling together for chatd, dot com invading aisles by the dozen and standing next to each other or reaching over staff of they work.   If you ask management to do something about it they laugh,  tell you to keep working or say if you don't like it then go home.   No attempt made to make staff safety priority! Disgusting

Then you reply...."no I don't like it, I don't like the fact that you are failing in your duty of care, failing to comply with government guidelines regarding social distancing in the workplace, and failing to react to my genuine concerns presented to you as to my wellbeing, therefore I intend to remove myself from the situation, and will be in the restroom until you can either provide a safe environment for me to continue to fulfill my contract, or instruct me to leave the building."
If you are a union member, request a union rep to be immediately sent to the restroom for you to speak to. If not, request the H&S rep be sent. If a manager sends you home, they must pay you in full, whether it be suspension or not!
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: darklighter on 21-04-20, 11:31PM
Unfortunatley, Tesco are becoming a joke on social media with people posting pictures of staff huddled together like there is no pandemic.

Either take it seriously and start motivating certain staff as to how serious a situation the UK is in or shut the shops that are not adhering to Government guidelines and by default bringing the Tesco name into disrepute as if it needs anymore bad publicity!.

Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: Mark calloway on 22-04-20, 01:42AM
Some from our store are posting videos of themselves dancing together in the warehouse. Idiots
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: darklighter on 22-04-20, 09:50AM
They should be dancing to a disciplinary and yes, I know it is a difficult time for everyone and takes some getting used to, but surely now they understand how dire the situation is at the moment and realise they are putting themselves and others at risk by their actions.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: hesketh on 22-04-20, 07:05PM
I visited my local Express yesterday and the woman outside, exhorting people to queue 2m apart, was leaning on the door frame. When I suggested that she stand back to allow people to pass more than a foot from her she said "There are other shops you know".

I, politely, spoke to the manager who seemed to recognise my concern and he said he would speak to her. When I left the shop a few minutes later I almost had to squeeze past her. I'm afraid to say that I was a little rude, not aggressive or offensive, but she still didn't get it......
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: Twinkletoes on 22-04-20, 07:30PM
Some staff it seems are as mentally unbalanced as the management.   Beat part are the dot com sporting social distancing tshirts.   The irony...
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: Crazy Caz on 23-04-20, 01:42AM
Quote from: lucgeo on 21-04-20, 10:04PM
Quote from: Twinkletoes on 21-04-20, 06:53PM
At silverburn Scotland it seems as if social dusbtancing is a joke amongst management and certain staff.   Facebook group has numerous pics of them standing next to each other for recognition, staff huddling together for chatd, dot com invading aisles by the dozen and standing next to each other or reaching over staff of they work.   If you ask management to do something about it they laugh,  tell you to keep working or say if you don't like it then go home.   No attempt made to make staff safety priority! Disgusting
silverburn in general is a joke anyway. Managers never listen to the staff at the best of times.
I fear for my colleagues. No understanding of social distancing at all. 🙈🙉🙊

Then you reply...."no I don't like it, I don't like the fact that you are failing in your duty of care, failing to comply with government guidelines regarding social distancing in the workplace, and failing to react to my genuine concerns presented to you as to my wellbeing, therefore I intend to remove myself from the situation, and will be in the restroom until you can either provide a safe environment for me to continue to fulfill my contract, or instruct me to leave the building."
If you are a union member, request a union rep to be immediately sent to the restroom for you to speak to. If not, request the H&S rep be sent. If a manager sends you home, they must pay you in full, whether it be suspension or not!
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: Jondoe2016 on 23-04-20, 06:39AM
I have had to visit 2 stores lately and I think it’s an absolute joke. Managers are defo the worst. They aren’t staying 2 metres apart, they all jump into the confidential office which is small as it is and 5 managers going in to gossip is ridiculous. They also have a second set of stairs to go to the colleague areas and offices but the second set is sealed off for no practical reason. If they opened them up, there could be a one way system. Safety is a joke at the minute
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: londoner83 on 23-04-20, 07:36AM
I think all colleagues need to rethink their approach to social distancing. The worst at my store are the self serve/SAYS cashiers who constantly rightly raise concerns about customers getting too close,  but think nothing about standing side by side with their colleagues during quiet spells.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: lucgeo on 23-04-20, 10:50AM
I have taken to wearing a mask and gloves for my weekly shop now...it seems the local Tesco is becoming more lax. Last week, a colleague sneezed in the aisle I was in, without any attempt to cover his mouth!
Yesterday, there was no queuing when I arrived at 10.30, the store was quiet but I did note more customers per aisle, and no barrier at CSD. More filling and cages, but I was able to purchase two bottles of handwash YAY! (We've been using washing up liquid for the last three weeks!)
The checkouts are still being protected with customers waiting for an allocation, however I did notice two guys at the front end work station, literally shoulder to shoulder, one collecting print offs and the other using the screen and keyboard ...they stood chatting together, their heads closer than my partner's and I have been since lockdown :o they then swapped sides for the other to use the keyboard  :-X
As I left the store, I did note that queuing was again in place and being monitored!
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: NightAndDay on 23-04-20, 01:59PM
Sneezing isn't a symptom of Coronavirus so hopefully you'll be fine, stores are still implementing social distancing so if it was complied with, you should be fine.

Express stores have extended opening hours from 8pm to 10pm and relaxed the customer limit per store, I haven't been to a superstore since the the lockdown so can't say what it's like there, but in Express, everything seems to be quite well ordered and maintained.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: almostlost on 23-04-20, 03:19PM
Which express have you been in ?

Mine hasn't extended hours, we close an hour early still, customer limit in store is still the same as it was 2 weeks ago.

There is also zero social distancing as far as colleagues are concerned. 2 behind a till when both need to be opened, spirits/lottery/cigarettes/paypoint are all behind the tills.  The gap between the till drawer and the cigarette gantry is way less than 2m.  Nothing has been said about that.  Staff room isn't big enough to have more than one person in, management/other staff are still strolling on while others are sat on a break. 

But hey, as long as the public see plastic screens and think Tesco are concerned ...
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: King1999 on 23-04-20, 07:04PM
Good job we're not being made redundant like the bakers ........ it's lovely to see how little value these greedy twats put on staff now......So why would they give a f*** about your health at work they've  washed their hands of it......hide behind emails and helplines and put inept managers in charge of these processes.Health mental or physical they don't care.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: gomezz on 23-04-20, 09:43PM
Quote from: NightAndDay on 23-04-20, 01:59PM
Sneezing isn't a symptom of Coronavirus so hopefully you'll be fine
Neither is sneezing proof of not having the virus.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: darklighter on 23-04-20, 10:00PM
Precisely, gomezz, someone could either have mild symptoms or be a carrier, walk through the household aisle and take a bout of sneezing, infecting products and possibly transmitting it to someone who may take more severe symtoms.
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: Mark calloway on 24-04-20, 09:33AM
Quote from: londoner83 on 23-04-20, 07:36AM
I think all colleagues need to rethink their approach to social distancing. The worst at my store are the self serve/SAYS cashiers who constantly rightly raise concerns about customers getting too close,  but think nothing about standing side by side with their colleagues during quiet spells.
correct. Don't get me started about the stupid plebs dancing in the warehouse together then posting it on Facebook to lift spirits. Bulls**t
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: Jedi4.20 on 10-06-20, 01:54AM
So I work on the night shift 💤💤
And there still making us do team fills I’m talking like 13/16 people down one isle
I have told them I am not taking part and now I’m seen as the trouble maker how is this right. 
Anyone else having this trouble
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: lucgeo on 10-06-20, 08:34AM
You do right...suprised the rest of the shift hasn't taken your stance  ???

Tell 'em you'd rather be KNOWN as a trouble maker, than be REMEMBERED as a Lemming  >:(
Title: Re: Social distancing for workers
Post by: Redshoes on 11-06-20, 03:41AM
Quote from: Mark calloway on 24-04-20, 09:33AM
Quote from: londoner83 on 23-04-20, 07:36AM
I think all colleagues need to rethink their approach to social distancing. The worst at my store are the self serve/SAYS cashiers who constantly rightly raise concerns about customers getting too close,  but think nothing about standing side by side with their colleagues during quiet spells.
correct. Don't get me started about the stupid plebs dancing in the warehouse together then posting it on Facebook to lift spirits. Bulls**t
Sometimes we spend more time with colleagues than we do with our own family. I know I do. We do try to do the social distancing. We work hard at it but it goes from becoming a natural thing to do now to forgetting about it for a moment and not realising had closed the distance between us.