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Quote from: jm876546886 on 04-03-24, 01:19PMI feel like you don't understand the pay review process.

Tesco will not look at anything that is not submitted into the stores forums

In store reps should conduct a survey just before september each year to ask members what they want negotiated

this then gets submitted into stores forums

And This Is where the problems start.

The store manager has to put that pay review information into the SD forum

The SD forum reps should be going to the SD forum armed with the information and then voting on the priority of the pay review e.g base pay , skills pay

The same information is sent into usdaw by the reps

Then its supposed to go up the chain.

The problem isn't usdaw its Tesco and the stores forum process. It is not right to blame union reps for this , the ones that complete the process correctly have done their job.

And that seems to be the crux of the matter.

I,for one, had no idea that we had to submit any union business through the forum. I only found that out recently through this site but the store's union reps have never mentioned this to anyone. As for doing a survey......well, never.

Our forum results are not posted and, to be honest, nobody cares because they know nothing about the forum or what it does. So many youngsters working now are totally ignorant of the fact we actually have a forum meeting and older colleagues don't see the point of it.

Exactly same here the overwhelming amount of staff have not a clue what's happening until after the union have agreed to such worked for Tesco over 20 years and never not once has a union rep mentioned pay negotiations or anything so what on earth is the point on paying into it and the union are not in Tescos back pocket pmsl don't make me laugh

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Quote from: General Thorn on 04-03-24, 01:46PM

Quote from: jm876546886 on 04-03-24, 01:19PMI feel like you don't understand the pay review process.

Tesco will not look at anything that is not submitted into the stores forums

In store reps should conduct a survey just before september each year to ask members what they want negotiated

this then gets submitted into stores forums

neither did i until.

And This Is where the problems start.

The store manager has to put that pay review information into the SD forum

The SD forum reps should be going to the SD forum armed with the information and then voting on the priority of the pay review e.g base pay , skills pay

The same information is sent into usdaw by the reps

Then its supposed to go up the chain.

The problem isn't usdaw its Tesco and the stores forum process. It is not right to blame union reps for this , the ones that complete the process correctly have done their job.

And that seems to be the crux of the matter.

I,for one, had no idea that we had to submit any union business through the forum. I only found that out recently through this site but the store's union reps have never mentioned this to anyone. As for doing a survey......well, never.

Our forum results are not posted and, to be honest, nobody cares because they know nothing about the forum or what it does. So many youngsters working now are totally ignorant of the fact we actually have a forum meeting and older colleagues don't see the point of it.

whatever the pay deal is you can guarantee tosco and tesdaw will brag about how generous they are and we should be so grateful to them for it. load of rubbish if you ask me

Tomorrow predictions...£12.02ph, a small increase in night premium, Sunday and Bank Holiday premium reduced to about 11%...thats it!

Well one guarantee it will be 11.44 at least ... honest prediction 11.60 staggered to 12 later in year with premiums Sunday and bank holiday gone .. the asda owner said they pay the best out of the stores come July  does he know something we don't with Tescos pending announcement or will he eat his words tomorow I sincerely doubt it

Quote from: lackofinterest on 04-03-24, 04:55PMwhatever the pay deal is you can guarantee tosco and tesdaw will brag about how generous they are and we should be so grateful to them for it. load of rubbish if you ask me

yup agreed they will both made to look angels when we will be lucky to break 12£ a hour

i think it will be 11.50ish then will go up to 12ish later in the year

Quote from: lackofinterest on 04-03-24, 05:56PMi think it will be 11.50ish then will go up to 12ish later in the year

I agree

I'm gonna make a bold prediction.
£12.05 p/h
Night premium increased to £2.60 p/h
Sunday premium reduced from £1.87 to 84p p/h
Bank holiday premium gone

Just a prediction just for fun, not based on any solid information whatsoever.

Quote from: 1982dave on 04-03-24, 05:38PMWell one guarantee it will be 11.44 at least ... honest prediction 11.60 staggered to 12 later in year with premiums Sunday and bank holiday gone .. the asda owner said they pay the best out of the stores come July  does he know something we don't with Tescos pending announcement or will he eat his words tomorow I sincerely doubt it

Tesco unlikely to follow suit for 2 key reasons.

1. Asda's announcement has gone down like a lead balloon, workers are not happy there.

2. They can, to a slightly higher degree than Tesco, justify the shambles of a pay rise, the Issa Brothers professional relationship is in question, the leveraged takeover of the business from Walmart has been a lot more operationally costly than they thought, they also are acting as owner and CEO, they are not accountable to shareholders (Asda isn't a publicly traded company) so don't fall under scrutiny when deciding pay structures.

If Tesco tried something similar it's likely to lead in Shareholder revolt, a CEO would have more expertise in the matters of compensation as well, they are also the largest player in the market so there will be higher expectations.

Last year was 7% so maybe and they will have to match the others at least so maybe 12.24 🤔 

Not sure how you got from 11.02 plus 7% and got 12.24?

Quote from: barafear on 04-03-24, 11:23PMNot sure how you got from 11.02 plus 7% and got 12.24?

it's about 11.80 lol

Quote from: barafear on 04-03-24, 11:23PMNot sure how you got from 11.02 plus 7% and got 12.24?

Because they negotiation is separate from living wage negotiations the 11.44 is mandatory usdaw negotiate on top of that statutory  increas

Oh, so you were going 7% on top of the 1144, I see. Not long to find out now, although I would be somewhat surprised to see 12.24!!

Indeed, they have to give us the living wage by law so the only negotiation is for what we get over that minimum of £11.44

Just seen a post on FB with a photo that says...

A new £12.02 hourly rate.
What's changing for Store, CFC & UFC hourly-paid colleagues following negotiations with USDAW?
1. Hourly rate increase of 9.1%. our biggest ever percentage increase in your pay in a single year
2. Inner and outer London allowances simplified to one rate of £1.13.
3. Sunday premiums changing from 17% to 10%. giving you £13.22 when combined with your hourly rate
4. Increased maximum Company Sick Pay. up to a maximum of 18 weeks**
5. Increased paternity leave of 6 weeks' full pay. from 5 March
6. Increased Colleague Clubcard allowance from £1,500 to £2.000
per year. from 1 April

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So a 6.6% pay rise less so if you work Sundays, the union can get f****d we gave up our bonus for higher hourly pay increases, and we are below what asda will be, come July.

I am out of that s*** show union!

Quote from: stewright90 on 05-03-24, 10:24AMSo a 6.6% pay rise less so if you work Sundays, the union can get f****d we gave up our bonus for higher hourly pay increases, and we are below what asda will be, come July.

I am out of that s*** show union!

I opted out last year best thing I done

Yes shafted on Sundays again. £9 extra for working a 7.5hr Sunday shift

So no increase in night premiums for GA's then, only for the night managers....thats not gonna go down well.

Quote from: stewright90 on 05-03-24, 10:24AMSo a 6.6% pay rise less so if you work Sundays, the union can get f****d we gave up our bonus for higher hourly pay increases, and we are below what asda will be, come July.

I am out of that s*** show union!

Asda have be paying £11.11 since July 2023 which is about the 11.02 tesco have been paying so what are you ranting about?

Can see the lack of night premium uplift causing a lot of aggro good luck attracting staff to that