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That is a rough deal for Asda workers, having to wait 4 months for the raise and working for minimum wage in the meantime. I am excited to learn what Tesco announce on March 5th, it will be interesting.

Quote from: Raven on 01-03-24, 12:52PMIs it just me, or are their staff being robbed with that deal?

It's just you!
What are they being robbed of?
While it's a bit mean, Asda are complying and paying the minimum, which is all they are legally required to do. No one is "being robbed"!

The improved maternity pay/ paternity pay sounds good but will effect very few staff to really matter, now unless this is due to some law coming in soon the increase to this does put a lot of staff at a disadvantage.

Quote from: Nightworker23 on 01-03-24, 01:13PM

Quote from: Raven on 01-03-24, 12:52PMIs it just me, or are their staff being robbed with that deal?

It's just you!
What are they being robbed of?
While it's a bit mean, Asda are complying and paying the minimum, which is all they are legally required to do. No one is "being robbed"!

Rival supermarkets are going straight to £12 an hour.

Assuming minimum wage etc changes April next year; so basing it on the 52 week period until potentially the next rise...
The 56p difference between minimum wage and £12 over 52 weeks is higher than the 60p difference between minimum wage and £12.04 over the 39 weeks from 1st July.
So Asda staff will be worse off over the year by not going up to £12 in April like the others are.

Assuming minimum wage etc changes April next year; so basing it on the 52 week period until potentially the next rise...
The 56p difference between minimum wage and £12 over 52 weeks is higher than the 60p difference between minimum wage and £12.04 over the 39 weeks from 1st July.
So Asda staff will be worse off over the year by not going up to £12 in April like the others are.
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Asda are doing what they are legally required to by increasing pay in accordance with minimum wages , if Asda staff feel they are being "robbed" then they have the same option as Tesco / Sainsbury's / Morrisons etc. etc. staff have , i.e. get a different job .

Quote from: Raven on 01-03-24, 01:36PM

Quote from: Nightworker23 on 01-03-24, 01:13PM

Quote from: Raven on 01-03-24, 12:52PMIs it just me, or are their staff being robbed with that deal?

It's just you!
What are they being robbed of?
While it's a bit mean, Asda are complying and paying the minimum, which is all they are legally required to do. No one is "being robbed"!

Rival supermarkets are going straight to £12 an hour.

Assuming minimum wage etc changes April next year; so basing it on the 52 week period until potentially the next rise...
The 56p difference between minimum wage and £12 over 52 weeks is higher than the 60p difference between minimum wage and £12.04 over the 39 weeks from 1st July.
So Asda staff will be worse off over the year by not going up to £12 in April like the others are.

I agree 100%. But no-one is being "robbed"
If they chose to Asda could just put it up to minimum and leave it there.
Then people should leave and go to the higher payer. But they won't!
The majority of staff like to moan, but take no action.
The supermarkets know this, and that's why they got away with it.
If everyone walked away from the lowest payer, then they'd have to become the highest payer.

Main reason staff don't leave is that there are few alternatives because as we know, generally when staff leave tesco they rarely get replaced immediately or in full.....e.g. if three staff leave, at best two new starters might get taken on
I didn't initially see the full details of the asda deal, the 11.44 up to 1 July and then 12.04....what's even worse is their press statement on it lauding how they are exceeding the real living wage and will be the highest paying UK retailer!! Most real living wage employers match the rate from April if not earlier ( it gets announced the previous November). And by the time July arrives other retailers may well be higher than Asda.....joke press statement as usual....but expect much the same from tesco.

Quote from: Raven on 01-03-24, 11:15AMInterestingly, in regards to the above Asda pay offer... "Shopworkers' union Usdaw is recommending that their members accept the offer at a vote later this month." ... so they still get a say in whether to accept it or not, whereas we're just told "this is what you're getting... and this is what we're taking back for you to have it."

No it goes via the forums the usdaw reps are supposed to poll the workplace and sumbit it to the forum the problem is the forum process itself

I'm even more convinced we will get a staggered pay rise now I've seen what has happened with Asda usdaw being there union ..it's funny that usdaw have advised the Asda staff to accept that offer when aparently usdaw according to the lady on phone in union office stated all Tesco staff were balloted and agreed they would lose their bonus to get a better payrise lol

Asda not getting a pay rise till July won't they be breaking the law by under paying staff.

they would be breaking the law yes as its past april thats true, it has to be the next payday after they increase minimum wage

It's a rise to £11.44 on April 1st with the rest in July , therefore staying within the rules of minimum pay

complete and utter lack of respect to their staff due to corporate greed!!  

wouldnt surprise me one bit if tosco did the same

Quote from: Raven on 01-03-24, 11:15AMInterestingly, in regards to the above Asda pay offer... "Shopworkers' union Usdaw is recommending that their members accept the offer at a vote later this month." ... so they still get a say in whether to accept it or not, whereas we're just told "this is what you're getting... and this is what we're taking back for you to have it."

what the f*** are USDAW on about. it couldnt be any worse

Quote from: lackofinterest on 01-03-24, 10:51PM

Quote from: Raven on 01-03-24, 11:15AMInterestingly, in regards to the above Asda pay offer... "Shopworkers' union Usdaw is recommending that their members accept the offer at a vote later this month." ... so they still get a say in whether to accept it or not, whereas we're just told "this is what you're getting... and this is what we're taking back for you to have it."

what the f*** are USDAW on about. it couldnt be any worse

If Asda staff vote against the deal, they'll just get minimum from April and then have to wait longer for a new deal. So they'll probably end up losing out even more, as Asda are never going to increase the final figure much more than £12.04!

There are still some stores that have drivers on a supplement, so maybe expect that to be decreased or removed completely.

I always thought Asda used GMB union?

tesco will on the 5th march at 10am hit us all with a boom shell,and from what i think they will do is pay us in 2 parts just like asda, i think there will be a lot of unhappy staff.

Asda pay rise announcement as supermarket to increase basic pay for workers to £12.04
Asda is set to become the highest paying UK supermarket for a starting salary, after announcing a record £150million investment, with hourly pay set to rise from £11.11 an hour to £12.04

Asda workers
Asda is to become highest paying UK supermarket
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Asda has announced a pay rise for 120,000 workers after confirming it will increase basic pay by 8.4% to £12.04 an hour.

The current hourly pay is £11.11 an hour. The pay for workers inside the M25 will rise to £13.21 an hour, up from the current rate of £12.28. The new pay rates will kick in from July 1. It comes as part of a new £150million investment by the supermarket.

I'd be more shocked now if we didn't have the staggered pay rise  what on earth is the point in paying into usdaw the fact that they have said to Asda staff to accept it it's pretty poor really as they have done next to nothing to help Tesco store staff either

Quote from: 1982dave on 02-03-24, 06:35PMI'd be more shocked now if we didn't have the staggered pay rise  what on earth is the point in paying into usdaw the fact that they have said to Asda staff to accept it it's pretty poor really as they have done next to nothing to help Tesco store staff either

Another 9ne that's clueless about what the union reps do, why don't you volunteer to step up to be one

Quote from: Voulezvous on 02-03-24, 01:31PMI always thought Asda used GMB union?

I thought there was something weird about the usdaw press release about the Asda pay rise.....

Jayne Allport – Usdaw National Officer says: "We are pleased to have negotiated a pay increase to £12.04, which takes the basic hourly rate above the real Living Wage and meets our demands of at least £12 per hour. This offer from the company will now go to a ballot of Usdaw members covered by our agreements in Northern Ireland and Asda Express, Usdaw is recommending that they accept. Retail staff are key workers in our communities, ensuring that the nation is fed; they deserve our respect and one of the best ways of showing that is with decent pay, particularly in a cost of living crisis."

So only mentions agreements with Northern Ireland and Asda Express......


Where a Google search on Asda Uk stores recognised union tells us it is GMB.....

So I wonder where that leaves this pay offer?

This is quite old news but I don't ever remember seeing a link at the time, this relates to Asda's pay rise last year and the changes made to fund it. Sound familiar to us?

https://www.grocerygazette.co.uk/2023/12/19/pay-bonus-scheme-asda/

lack of respect and greed. i believe tosco pay rise will be in 2 parts aswell