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Our night lead has been on days for over a year now, night managers and shift leaders just sort the stuff out. It's been better since he was put there "temporarily"  our managers still have tk hand over tk him in the morning but for any problems etc they just deal with the stuff themselves, so a night lead hasn't been needed... We've all been glad to get rid

Going bakeoff no redundancy. The idea is the bakers stay in the bakery and packers move wherever. Another phone brief tomorrow around pay outs.
GUTTED!!!

Can you take redundancy if hours can't be matched.As would take it as missed out last time

Is every store going to bake off?

Our bakers have been told by phone call,meeting tomorrow we are going to bake-off

Quote from: cheesy cob on 06-02-24, 02:31PMCan you take redundancy if hours can't be matched.As would take it as missed out last time

No redundancy yours hrs wouldn't change just work where needed

Quote from: Himynameus on 06-02-24, 02:37PMIs every store going to bake off?
Not sure. Think a lot will as we are profitable and one of the best on group apparently!!

What happens with the skills payment? Just wondering as I'm the sole provider for my family and can't afford to lose any money. Not heard anything about my job yet though so maybe ours won't go. I'd have bitten their hand off for redundancy mind you.

No 4 day working week for night managers said that it hasn't worked in trial stores

Surely any scratch bakeries which are going bake off then the bakers are entitled to redundancy, different for packers etc. I personally would take the money and run as this company is a terrible place to work now.

Quote from: Grassman on 06-02-24, 03:00PMSurely any scratch bakeries which are going bake off then the bakers are entitled to redundancy, different for packers etc. I personally would take the money and run as this company is a terrible place to work now.

The same should apply for wage clerks regarding redundancy as our job has gone due to technology and to the management but stupid Usdaw ruined that!
Our bakers have been bake off for a while now and all they got was a payout

Does anyone have a reason as to why the 4 night trial didn't work out
When one considers other retailers who do work 4 shift pattern that works so was curious as to the hindering factor why Tesco don't follow

Also lead manager nights ?
Coming back ? Really after only one year since finishing off the role
Hope someone can clarify

Scratch bakery was binned in my store last year. Bakers never had the option of redundancy. They keep their skilled payment rate for 18months and then fall in line with GA pay. The days of redundancy for shop floor staff are over. We are all customer assistants now and have been for a while. This change of job title/contract was done precisely to avoid paying out redundancies.

You work where needed in accordance to your availability, you have zero options.

Quote from: colinthemole on 06-02-24, 02:47PMWhat happens with the skills payment? Just wondering as I'm the sole provider for my family and can't afford to lose any money. Not heard anything about my job yet though so maybe ours won't go. I'd have bitten their hand off for redundancy mind you.

Store managers on phone call briefing tomorrow to find out. One to one's to be done by end of week.
That said if minimum wage rising shouldn't see that much difference really. We just wouldn't get as much of a rise compared to everyone else.

Quote from: SAMCRO on 06-02-24, 03:14PMScratch bakery was binned in my store last year. Bakers never had the option of redundancy. They keep their skilled payment rate for 18months and then fall in line with GA pay. The days of redundancy for shop floor staff are over. We are all customer assistants now and have been for a while. This change of job title/contract was done precisely to avoid paying out redundancies.

You work where needed in accordance to your availability, you have zero options.

Good old usdaw!!!

Quote from: KELTIKKING on 06-02-24, 03:13PMDoes anyone have a reason as to why the 4 night trial didn't work out
When one considers other retailers who do work 4 shift pattern that works so was curious as to the hindering factor why Tesco don't follow

Also lead manager nights ?
Coming back ? Really after only one year since finishing off the role
Hope someone can clarify

Quote from: KELTIKKING on 06-02-24, 03:13PMDoes anyone have a reason as to why the 4 night trial didn't work out
When one considers other retailers who do work 4 shift pattern that works so was curious as to the hindering factor why Tesco don't follow

Also lead manager nights ?
Coming back ? Really after only one year since finishing off the role
Hope someone can clarify

I'd imagine that with holidays/sickness there isn't enough cover. Also if shop not being filled correctly the night managers are reaping benefits of 4 nights with same pay with little benefit to the business. Thinking on the same lines a lead will have more accountability to deliver the operation 7 nights per week so makes it easier for store to maintain the fill..

2 night managers
2 shift leaders
Is more than enough to run a shift

As I said works in other companies

Yes I was a lead

Came back but not for long as absolutely no work life balance
Will obtain clarity soon from by SM

Quote from: Grassman on 06-02-24, 03:36PM

Quote from: SAMCRO on 06-02-24, 03:14PMScratch bakery was binned in my store last year. Bakers never had the option of redundancy. They keep their skilled payment rate for 18months and then fall in line with GA pay. The days of redundancy for shop floor staff are over. We are all customer assistants now and have been for a while. This change of job title/contract was done precisely to avoid paying out redundancies.

You work where needed in accordance to your availability, you have zero options.

Good old usdaw!!!

I am Security only work security no other departments not trained and won't be ocupational health said not fit for any other department

Any bakers on here that can confirm.that have had a meeting or call

Quote from: cheesy cob on 06-02-24, 04:59PMAny bakers on here that can confirm.that have had a meeting or call

Our union rep said nothing was mentioned about our bakery in the meeting, so maybe not all bakeries going bake off.

Quote from: Mickymouse1962 on 06-02-24, 04:47PM

Quote from: Grassman on 06-02-24, 03:36PM

Quote from: SAMCRO on 06-02-24, 03:14PMScratch bakery was binned in my store last year. Bakers never had the option of redundancy. They keep their skilled payment rate for 18months and then fall in line with GA pay. The days of redundancy for shop floor staff are over. We are all customer assistants now and have been for a while. This change of job title/contract was done precisely to avoid paying out redundancies.

You work where needed in accordance to your availability, you have zero options.

Good old usdaw!!!

I am Security only work security no other departments not trained and won't be ocupational health said not fit for any other department

So you can confront shoplifters and potentially aggressive people but you can't put tissue paper on a shelf? 

Tissue paper is too soft to handle.

Yes we were told our bakery going to bake off today. I rejoined in nov 2022 after taking redundancy in 2020 and working for Morrisons and then Costco in between. Both awful company's to work for with no work like balance. In December I decided I wanted out of retail and applied for a job balancing books. The company said if they get the right person they'll train them from scratch, 3 interviews later and they offered me the job. Monday to Friday, hybrid remote, 2 bonuses a year so I took it. Gave my manager 4 weeks notice as I know skilled bakers are hard to come by. They got a lad off produce  who wanted to train and he started yesterday. Today they came in and said it is going to bake off so looks like I dodged a bullet there

Did they say anything about redundancy for bakery

Quote from: cheesy cob on 06-02-24, 06:02PMDid they say anything about redundancy for bakery

No redundancy