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They are already getting ready for the next shake up. Stock control will be mostly effected with routines like date checks etc being done by the staff on those departments. Wages is going to be completely scaled back to only 3 hours a day with an increased role for admin assistants.  I'm guessing Admin and Wages will be merged into one role, one person.

Just makes you wonder why they kept a stock control manager when this was coming.

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Quote from: Whatoncewas on 23-04-23, 09:19AMHas anything been mentioned about the 4 day working week for night managers yet. The original comms made it sound like it would be live in week 10 but we still haven't had any more information or had the option put to us.

We're going to 4 nights for team manager and 2 shift leaders all full time


In the collective consultation notes (Meeting 4) they mention that they are going to trail it across 4 large format groups it goes on to say the following "Feedback from the trial will be reviewed, with the hope that if the trial has been positive, 4-
night working will be implemented across all large format night operations from Week 26." Week 26 is wc 20th August so looks like few more months of 5 nights weeks 

If a colleague has been on a step up payment from general assistant to management. Well at 90% of the wage would they be entitled to the bonus payment?

Doubt it, they aren't salaried.

Quote from: GingerSpice on 23-04-23, 11:15AMThey are already getting ready for the next shake up. Stock control will be mostly effected with routines like date checks etc being done by the staff on those departments. Wages is going to be completely scaled back to only 3 hours a day with an increased role for admin assistants.  I'm guessing Admin and Wages will be merged into one role, one person.

Just makes you wonder why they kept a stock control manager when this was coming.

Wage clerks days are numbered. The new system means there is no need for them. Admin however will always be needed. 

Quote from: Nightowl25 on 22-04-23, 12:39PMThe pay rise will depend upon where you are in the new pay bandings.
Anywhere from 5% to 21% for newly appointed team managers.

What about team managers who are now at the new appointment rate even though they've been managers for a number of years?

Quote from: Mrs sparrow on 23-04-23, 06:17PMDoubt it, they aren't salaried.

If they have been salaried for about 6 months
Would this change the situation

If they're on step up they're not salaried, just a higher hourly rate. They'd need to be appointed to be salaried rather than doing a placement.

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Quote from: Nightowl25 on 22-04-23, 12:39PMThe pay rise will depend upon where you are in the new pay bandings.
Anywhere from 5% to 21% for newly appointed team managers.

What about team managers who are now at the new appointment rate even though they've been managers for a number of years?

Expect a massive pay rise!

Or the reality is you'll get the bear minimum!

A Team Manager who has been in the role a year or 2 and is a poor performer could have got upto potentially a 4k rise since November if the new rumoured starting rate of 28k is to be believed.
Just remember that when they give us all our lower than expected raises in May!

Quote from: Nightowl25 on 24-04-23, 06:40PM

Quote from: chocolatestrawberry on 24-04-23, 01:18PM

Quote from: Nightowl25 on 22-04-23, 12:39PMThe pay rise will depend upon where you are in the new pay bandings.
Anywhere from 5% to 21% for newly appointed team managers.

What about team managers who are now at the new appointment rate even though they've been managers for a number of years?

Expect a massive pay rise!

Unfortunately with my 15 years service, 8 of those as a team manager (with consistent met reviews I might add) I struggle to remain optimistic!

I've just been told I have to wait until Saturday to find out if I'm going or not?!?

Asked the SM if today's 'final meeting' meant that it was definitely the end of the road amd that I'd be getting my bye bye letter. He said that the final letter says 29th, so if anything changes between now and Saturday, I might not get my redundancy....

I know in a neighbouring store that a manager who thought they were getting redundancy has now been told they have to stay as another manager handed their notice in.

All managers were made aware this might happen during the consultation.

I know. But surely not up until the last day you supposedly work for the company...

Seek an employee's consent to withdrawal of redundancy notice


   

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• After having given an employee notice of redundancy, an employer may have a change of circumstances that render the redundancy unnecessary.
•     While the employer cannot withdraw the redundancy notice unilaterally, it can, during the notice period, seek the employee's agreement to withdraw the notice.
•     While the employee will be under no obligation to agree to this, where they refuse the offer, this may affect their entitlement to a statutory redundancy payment.

In some situations the employee may need to seek legal advice.  Especially if they have found and agree to go to an alternative employer with better T&C's and remuneration.

Surely if a dept is over hours/manned and they are putting people on other depts then surely there's no need for overtime on said depts and when they are say "trained" on a dept can they do say reductions, waste, food donation it alright doing trading on a computer ticking boxes but doing it in practice is another thing in the allotment shift

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Routines are going to be a mess. In my store people who do all the 'compliance' stuff are being sent to BWS for two hours while someone who has never done the reductions before is being moved from Health and Beauty to do them.

Why are people being moved off said departments in this way? I thought the whole point of the scheduler was to move people to cover absences like holidays etc. Instead everyone is just being put anywhere for the sake of it. 

However as discussed in the other thread. A lot of it comes down to how accurate your heatmaps are, if people are in the right place they should not be moved.  If a high percentage of colleagues are being moved that is reflective on the store not operating as it should.

Quote from: Nomad on 25-04-23, 03:39PMSeek an employee's consent to withdrawal of redundancy notice


   

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• After having given an employee notice of redundancy, an employer may have a change of circumstances that render the redundancy unnecessary.
•     While the employer cannot withdraw the redundancy notice unilaterally, it can, during the notice period, seek the employee's agreement to withdraw the notice.
•     While the employee will be under no obligation to agree to this, where they refuse the offer, this may affect their entitlement to a statutory redundancy payment.

In some situations the employee may need to seek legal advice.  Especially if they have found and agree to go to an alternative employer with better T&C's and remuneration.

Did it not say in the consultation papers for this shake up that if a manager leaves before week 10 then any manager who has been offered redundancy could have it withdrawn? if said managers  signed it then there is no get out clause really, that was the talk in my store anyway.

Just scrap it.

According to the system you will be over staffed. Reality will never match what the system says. Eg, hb filled in 3 hrs by 1 member of staff. Reality 2 staff whole shift.  Grocery filled on nights in an extra by 4 staff. Reality 7 needed.

The Scheduler has already highlighted which stores have not been following their heatmaps. So the first thing that will come down from HQ is a reprimand to the Store Manager for not following Ideal Base. This will mean that everyone will be either be expected to move their hours into the right place or move to a different department where those hours are suitable.

That will be happening. The Schedulers main goal is to reduce overtime but it won't work correctly until all staff are where they should be.

@Sunflowers, hence anybody who does/has their redundancy withdrawn and have already found and agreed a new more advantageous position elsewhere would be advised to seek legal advice if they still wish to go.

"talk in store" is not always the best place for information, especially in matters which could involve several thousands of pounds.

With managers leaving this week does anyone know about holidays/bh due for 23/24 how to find out what's due

Will be one twelfth of your current entitlement,
Personal day will not be included.
However if you have taken more than what's earned,that will be deducted.

Quote from: Moon2020 on 25-04-23, 11:14AMI've just been told I have to wait until Saturday to find out if I'm going or not?!?

Asked the SM if today's 'final meeting' meant that it was definitely the end of the road amd that I'd be getting my bye bye letter. He said that the final letter says 29th, so if anything changes between now and Saturday, I might not get my redundancy....

I was handed my letter today. I was told this is now final and beyond the point for change. I was told that everybody has to be told by tomorrow. Store manager coming in to see one manager tomorrow who was day off today, it's store managers day off.