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New contract concerns

Started by Paper Rose, 26-05-22, 10:39AM

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lackofinterest

#200
Tough on them.  Your availability is your choice not theirs.  Look after yourself! sod what tosco managers want >:D 

Bobmay

Quote from: chris9997 on 29-09-22, 01:50PMWhat we have been told is that the new contract serve pick and fill will have all staff trained on every dept, those that say they have a health condition will be referred to OH if they agree then they will be pensioned off, so it appears the company has decided all ready the outcomes.

Pensioned off? What do you mean by that removed from the store? Given redundancy? Given early retirement?

lucgeo

#202
They will be deemed unfit and dismissed on medical grounds. No redundancy and no early pension payments!
Live for today. Learn from yesterday.

Bobmay

#203
Please do not quote immediately prior post(s).  .Admin.

They can't be deemed unfit. If they can do checkouts only then they will stay on checkout only.  The problem is when you can't do anything.

oldfashionedplayer

they are a big company, so dismissing them on "medical grounds", wound probably gain them a huge amount of bad publicity, considering probably half of our staff is like that lmao

best they can do is add extra workload onto their original job in the hope they just quit of their own accord, as any other measure would just land them down bad alleys.

lucgeo

#205
@Bombay...Apologies  8-) I misunderstood the thread...I thought it was referring to unfit to work  :-X
Live for today. Learn from yesterday.

Morris999

#206
Quote from: chris9997 on 29-09-22, 01:50PMWhat we have been told is that the new contract serve pick and fill will have all staff trained on every dept, those that say they have a health condition will be referred to OH if they agree then they will be pensioned off, so it appears the company has decided all ready the outcomes.
Whoever has told you that is just scaremongering and talking c***!
As long as existing colleagues can complete one element of serve pick and fill they will still be employed by Tesco!
Yes they will be referred to OH but they will not be dismissed/pensioned off or anything else!
Hell even the brief for recruiting new colleagues on the new contracts states we are not to automatically refuse people if they cannot do all 3 elements due to health reasons and still employ them as long as they meet the other criteria.
There's numerous employment and disability laws that Tesco would fall foul of if they did what you have been told!

Simonlyckntract

Quote from: SimonF12030 on 27-05-22, 11:47PM
Quote from: lucgeo on 27-05-22, 07:09AMAre Phone shop colleagues not excluded due to being paid from out of store wage budget  ???

Probably that and also they are paid at D-grade, Scan, Pick & Fill is for B & C grades

Simonlyckntract

I Think they will cut management structure again. Once all the new systems are in place with wages holidays ect everything will be online and self managing telling you how to learn and train how to book a holiday change contact details pay personal details less decisions to be made you will only need duty managers and maybe a satellite store manager.

londoner83

Got to be the plan. If you can run a extra on a Sunday with 2 managers why do you need 10 on a Tuesday?

SimonF12030

Quote from: Simonlyckntract on 06-10-22, 05:40AM
Quote from: SimonF12030 on 27-05-22, 11:47PM
Quote from: lucgeo on 27-05-22, 07:09AMAre Phone shop colleagues not excluded due to being paid from out of store wage budget  ???

Probably that and also they are paid at D-grade, Scan, Pick & Fill is for B & C grades

to be honest Phone Shop Staff are paid by Tesco, but then Tesco Mobile pay Tesco, so they are exempt from Scan, Pick and Fill, unless they want overtime

Guerilla In The Mist

"With the new contracts due to launch on 16 October, the Union wants to ensure that members have as wide an understanding as possible of how the new contracts may impact them.

                   Notice of Shifts
                                
Staff will be given 3 weeks' notice of shifts and the areas of the store that they will be working in. For those employees that have fixed their availability, this will effectively just be three weeks' notice of which area of the store they will be working in. This information will be provided via the My Tesco web app.
                              
Shifts will be published automatically, so this is not reliant on managers telling colleagues their shifts and, once published, shift times will only be able to be changed following agreement with the colleague.
                                  
For those that were formerly on part time flexi contracts there will no longer be a requirement to work shifts with 24 hours' notice as all shifts will be published with 3 weeks' notice                                                          
Remember – existing staff can continue to fix their core contracted hours rather than providing additional availability which would mean the only information that the 3 weeks' notice is providing is the area of the store you may be working. Should you wish to ensure that this is the case for your hours you should confirm this with your manager before 16 October 2022. (Please note that this does not apply to Shift Leaders/Team Supports or Customery Delivery Drivers, who will retain their current availability and whose hours will continue to be scheduled as they are currently)."

madness

#212
Quote from: SimonF12030 on 06-10-22, 09:03PM
Quote from: Simonlyckntract on 06-10-22, 05:40AM
Quote from: SimonF12030 on 27-05-22, 11:47PM
Quote from: lucgeo on 27-05-22, 07:09AMAre Phone shop colleagues not excluded due to being paid from out of store wage budget  ???

Probably that and also they are paid at D-grade, Scan, Pick & Fill is for B & C grades

to be honest Phone Shop Staff are paid by Tesco, but then Tesco Mobile pay Tesco, so they are exempt from Scan, Pick and Fill, unless they want overtime
When we had the crappy pop up phone shop the phone shop area manager got a hissy fit if at any time the phone guy was used for anything else.
So we made him count his own stock. Take it in from the lorry, gap scan it do the shrink counting etc.
Soon changed his tone then.

Johnzo88

Regarding the My tesco app, does that not have to be constantly updated? As of now, where I work instore is different from what the app says I should be working. And my departments I can work on the app are not up to date either. Can see the arguments with managers when I say im not working in produce, as the app says I am in the dairy fridge for instance.

whatajoke2019

We've been told the schedule to department thing properly comes into effect after Christmas.



BritishRacingGreen

@whatajoke2019 - yep - here too.

londoner83

In reality you have to question who on earth thought rolling schedule to work a few weeks before our busiest period (ie xmas) was ever going to be a good idea.

AudiTTman

#217
Not being funny but they always do this!

Tesc0Wow

I was dreading schedule to workload coming out for Xmas glad it's been postponed

forrestgimp

Quote from: Bobmay on 30-09-22, 05:40AM
Quote from: chris9997 on 29-09-22, 01:50PMWhat we have been told is that the new contract serve pick and fill will have all staff trained on every dept, those that say they have a health condition will be referred to OH if they agree then they will be pensioned off, so it appears the company has decided all ready the outcomes.

Pensioned off? What do you mean by that removed from the store? Given redundancy? Given early retirement?


LMAO, pensioned off my backside. They are not going to give everyone an early pension.


Quote from: lucgeo on 30-09-22, 06:05AMThey will be deemed unfit and dismissed on medical grounds. No redundancy and no early pension payments!

Yea but no, it doesnt work that way as much as you would like it too.

Hammer10

There is a list of things they need to do before they can get rid of anyone so we will see what happens could be a lot of industrial tribunals.

Mrbline

Thing with the new contracts they will do right hours right place and make u work 3 different departments during the day

chris9997

#222
Hi, regarding the new contract and serve pick and fill, your daily tasks I believe will be on the my Tesco app eventually, but  I have found the app very buggy, sometimes taking me to a totally unrelated web page. Before this is released the app needs serious work done on it.


Redshoes

The online booking of holidays has been delayed. We are noticing some bugs in the system. Also, it's very frustrating that two brand new system that should work together have different starts of the week. Why the booking of overtime and the extra hours have different start dates is a huge frustration and mystery.

Redshoes

There seem to be a few glitches in the system of late. We have noticed some odd things happening. There is a delay to online holiday booking and a delay to the system issuing out shifts. Due to the system errors this will have to happen but for a brand new wages system and for an overtime booking system to both have different start dates it's crazy.
I have a colleague who is on long term sick with a fit note in the system for six weeks but a random shift popped up part way through his absence.
I have another colleague who is retiring early April next year and is taking the 20% drop in hours and has had a random shift pop up in December.
Then add in that the two systems don't talk to each other when a colleague has a change of hours. Wages has to process the change of hours, change to availability, changes to holiday and then update the heat map. It's a long winded process that could run a lot smoother.

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