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Author Topic: 6 mins late, have to make up 15 minutes!?  (Read 3530 times)

Redshoes

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Re: 6 mins late, have to make up 15 minutes!?
« Reply #25 on: 10-09-21, 10:48AM »
It someone is late a let’s talk can be used as a record of a conversation on how the colleague will pay back the time. If this is what happen that is the end of it. If it is paid lateness without paying back time this is also recorded on let’s talk. Going forward, repeated paid lateness can be disciplined. Lateness that has been unpaid or colleague has worked back the time can’t, you can’t be punished twice. Not paining you for lateness means you have been punished so there should not be a disciplinary giving a second punishment.

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Re: 6 mins late, have to make up 15 minutes!?
« Reply #26 on: 11-09-21, 06:07PM »
Let's specify lateness  it's not being on time.
From a policy perspective unless it's related to time off  which is unlikely it will be processed as lateness.
All lateness is paid.

If you're late because you've taken time off that's time off and not lateness then the lateness policy doesn't apply, because its time off, sorry but I thought that was obvious.

If your journey takes an extra hour that's lateness.
If your car breaks down and you have to wait for a tow, lateness.
You sleep through your alarm, lateness.

If you take time off to pop to a pharmacy before work that's not lateness  that's time off, I figured everyone would understand the difference, although you should visit the pharmacy outside your work hours if you can.

However all lateness is paid, your car broke down  you slept through your alarm, a tesco van hit a focus and you had to wait for the road to be opened  they found a bomb next door, all are lateness, all are paid

Let's talks are only to be kept on file while they are relevant, as are all documents, you PSM should be purging files of no longer relevant information annually, holiday for should be disposed of after the year they apply, change of hours forms should be destroyed after 13 months etc
You can request to examine your file with your PSM and ask for any information to be removed if it no longer has bearing, which can include a let's talk  half of the time these are not used correctly.

Every occasion of lateness should necessitate a let's talk, to make sure there are no problems, it's proactive management, but then again these are not discplinary forms but are used as such, so be careful.

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Re: 6 mins late, have to make up 15 minutes!?
« Reply #27 on: 12-09-21, 08:30PM »
but then again these are not discplinary forms but are used as such, so be careful.

And that is the reason that I refuse to have one without a witness present.
It is illogical to me to say they are not a disciplinary measure, and then to bring them up in a disciplinary meeting.

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Re: 6 mins late, have to make up 15 minutes!?
« Reply #28 on: 14-09-21, 07:26PM »
I love them, because I can give them to managers for not doing their job too, then have them filed on their record, a let's talk is just a recording of a conversation.

Use them to your advantage too.
If they present one written out I loved screwing it up and taking a blank one out and taking some notes  including improper use of a let's talk form.

I'm not asked to be in too many meetings now.