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Title: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: eversor on 04-03-22, 06:49AM
I know some supermarkets are on 10 an hour or over, but does anyone know how much each are getting paid now?
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: stockcontroller on 04-03-22, 09:57AM
Base hourly rates for most supermarkets:

ALDI - £10.57 an hour
LIDL - £10.10 an hour
Sainsburys - £10 an hour
Morrisons - £10 an hour
M&S - £10 an hour
ASDA - £9.66 an hour
Tesco - £9.55 an hour
Iceland £9 an hour

I imagine some of these will change with pay reviews to be announced over coming months.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: eversor on 04-03-22, 01:24PM
brilliant, just what I was looking for!
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: Paupers wage on 04-03-22, 03:02PM
Well done Tesco's your winning the race to be the worst payer!
Only 5 weeks to minimum wage day
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: Kieth_Lemon on 04-03-22, 03:47PM
add to the list Coop £9.90 from 1st April
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: BUY TESLA STOCK on 04-03-22, 06:41PM
Might try for a full time job in Ahsda or are they the same as Tosco with party time wages.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: madness on 04-03-22, 06:45PM
The gap between the discounters and the big 4 has fairy closed. Discounters used to be 30-40% more
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: Night Owl on 04-03-22, 07:38PM
I believe T***o is the only major retailer still to pay any kind of premium for Sunday working. This may change when pay review is announced later this year.
Noticed in my area all the major retailers have vacancies advertised online, including plenty of manager vacancies.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: Lee2021 on 04-03-22, 08:35PM
I work Sundays..  when we changed from time 1/2 and went time 1/4 I was hardly any better off including the new pay rise. If we lose all Sunday premiums this time do you think they will say the same thing that I'm better off? albeit not by the full rise again.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: madness on 04-03-22, 09:37PM
Quote from: Night Owl on 04-03-22, 07:38PM
I believe T***o is the only major retailer still to pay any kind of premium for Sunday working. This may change when pay review is announced later this year.
Noticed in my area all the major retailers have vacancies advertised online, including plenty of manager vacancies.

Managers skills are transferable unlike the peons who are stuck doing grunt work the rest of their life living paycheck to paycheck  >:D :D
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: eversor on 04-03-22, 09:43PM
Quote from: Kieth_Lemon on 04-03-22, 03:47PM
add to the list Coop £9.90 from 1st April

Co Op are still voting for their increase though, aren't they?
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: NightAndDay on 04-03-22, 09:57PM
Quote from: madness on 04-03-22, 09:37PM
Quote from: Night Owl on 04-03-22, 07:38PM
I believe T***o is the only major retailer still to pay any kind of premium for Sunday working. This may change when pay review is announced later this year.
Noticed in my area all the major retailers have vacancies advertised online, including plenty of manager vacancies.

Managers skills are transferable unlike the peons who are stuck doing grunt work the rest of their life living paycheck to paycheck  >:D :D

Yes, Manager skills are transferable, that rules out the majority of Retail "Managers".
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: BUY TESLA STOCK on 04-03-22, 10:50PM
No they are just left disgruntled when nobody does the grunt work and they are living pay cheque to pay cheque listening to the SMs BS. The best thing you can do is leave. 
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: ihavequestions23 on 05-03-22, 04:41AM
Quote from: eversor on 04-03-22, 06:49AM
I know some supermarkets are on 10 an hour or over, but does anyone know how much each are getting paid now?

Lidl pay £10.10 an hour going up to over £11 an hour and for a person who currently works nights, to be able to work for a job that pays that much an hour without having to work nights it is a lot more of an appetising pay, just applied for the one near me.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: thor god of thunder on 06-03-22, 04:42PM
this is a fantastic post! thank you for the info.....does anyone have the premium rates...sunday, bank holidays and night shift rates?
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: thor god of thunder on 06-03-22, 04:48PM
oh and what about Waitrose
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: Modena on 11-03-22, 06:19AM
On the driving side.
Sainsburys £11.50
Waitrose £11
Iceland £11
Ocado £10.93-£15.19 they also get paid £1-80 more for overtime plus on weekends can earn anything up to £18 after 6pm at weekends,they don't load there own vans, when they do return early they still get paid and can go home, so no put put backs for them.
Tesco (Who claim to be the biggest supermarket) £10- 91.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: fatlad on 11-03-22, 07:56AM
Tesco £10.91??? I'm a Tesco driver & get £10.23.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: horatiocain on 11-03-22, 11:02AM
10.91 is the London driver rate.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: barafear on 11-03-22, 01:26PM
you all thought Tesco were bad - here's my search for an Asda job -

£9.95 a year!!

https://www.google.com/search?q=asda+jobs&rlz=1C1GCEV_en&oq=asda+jobs&aqs=chrome.0.0i457i512j0i402l2j0i433i512j0i512l5.7709j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&ibp=htl;jobs&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj48OiWlL72AhUJiFwKHUwfD4oQkd0GegQIKBAB#fpstate=tldetail&htivrt=jobs&htiq=asda+jobs&htidocid=EghguBvhhmkAAAAAAAAAAA%3D%3D&sxsrf=APq-WBteCFkxr1sFK0Lp5v2pIY7J_Indxw:1647005115503

Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: barafear on 11-03-22, 01:29PM
Do Asda pay the equivilent of Location pay?

This job is advertised at £9.95 an hour - whereas an earlier post suggested Asda base rate of pay was £9.66?

Job Title: Store Assistant - Days
Location: Stevenage Supercentre
Employment: Type Part-time
Contract Type: Temporary
Shift Pattern: Days
Hours per Week: 25
Pay Rate: £9.95 per hour
Category: Store Assistant
Closing Date: 18 March 2022
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: Modena on 11-03-22, 02:30PM
London benefits I guess and can I add I just had a text from a friend at Ocado who has just got their new pay deal.
Basic new rate: £11.57
Evening:  £12.79
Overtime rate day: £14.46
Evening: £15.99
Happy days for them why can't Tesco pay a better overtime rate, that would be something.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: lordadmiral on 14-03-22, 07:19PM
Shopping at Ocado is more expensive so the pay is higher but company is highly unprofitable.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: Modena on 14-03-22, 08:57PM
They seem to be doing ok.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: lordadmiral on 14-03-22, 10:19PM
The same we could say about Tesco,  until "accounting scandal".
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-10490837/Ocado-shares-slump-12-9-losses-triple-robot-roll-costs.html (https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-10490837/Ocado-shares-slump-12-9-losses-triple-robot-roll-costs.html)
Looking at new pay rates ( all retailers),  I must say that there is huge pressure to keep them as low as possible or is it only my imagination?!. Rates are about 7% higher (on average) than new minimum wage. (£9.5).
Everyone is complaining at staff shortage but i do not see any significant rises to attract more people into business. It's opposite i do have impression that more people are leaving or reduce the hours.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: expresscoop on 18-03-22, 10:43PM
East of England Coop is 9.01 atm and rises to 9.55 in april.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: expresscoop on 18-03-22, 10:45PM
Quote from: Kieth_Lemon on 04-03-22, 03:47PM
add to the list Coop £9.90 from 1st April

main store coop only, not East of England (9.55 in April)
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: Bakersdozen on 19-03-22, 08:18PM
Quote from: Lee2021 on 04-03-22, 08:35PM
I work Sundays..  when we changed from time 1/2 and went time 1/4 I was hardly any better off including the new pay rise. If we lose all Sunday premiums this time do you think they will say the same thing that I'm better off? albeit not by the full rise again.

Same here, was an absolute kick in the guts, atleast pay us 2 years difference if they take away the last nugget of premium we have.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: Bakersdozen on 19-03-22, 08:33PM
Another angle on this guys is Any bonus schemes other supermarkets offer.

Everyone forgets how the union negotiated away our bonus for a 'great'  new pay deal, fast forward and we will be on minimum wage with no bonus. Tesco wonders why they have recruitment and retention problems, low pay, zero hour contracts/ flexi. Absolute shambles to the tesco of 15 years ago.

If you take away our Sunday premium pay contracted staff 2 years the difference, increase the wage to £10, bring back a bonus in success based on individual performance but pay it at Christmas, A Christmas bonus would go a long way to most staff and would probably be spent straight back into the business not to mention increasing moral & reliving some stress at a busy time.

These are things that make staff appreciate working for a supermarket, and also not next October, bring this into effect early summer at least.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: Paulie on 19-03-22, 11:56PM
Why would you suggest taking away another premium? Once the subtract this, we will be in same position two years time on minimum wage with no premium or bonuses.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: BUY TESLA STOCK on 20-03-22, 12:15AM
I heard when they have to shell out for the equal pay claim no one will get paid that month.   (-*-)
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: stockcontroller on 20-03-22, 03:04AM
I left Tesco at the stock control cull but I've been viewing here to see what other reforms Tesco have taken and I laugh at certain members that still defend Tesco as a company. Surely no one still stays at Tesco for a career?

Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: lucgeo on 20-03-22, 08:27AM
I think Tesco lost a lot of loyalty from the staff when they took everyone for idiots, the pay rise a few years ago, stating up to 10 %, included a predictive discount card allowance, telling everyone that they got so much discount perks on their shopping per year  ??? ??? I, as a part timer, would have not received any pay, as the predictive discount spend, was more than my annual wage  :-X :-X

I don't miss working for Tesco since being made redundant, once you move away from the toxic environment that you've become used to, you realise how you've been gaslighted daily by the unscrupulous rules imposed by most managers, the accepted norm!

I had a chance of transferring to another dept...until I spoke with their section manager regarding "her rules" for her team, that they worked together to cover bank holidays, Xmas, hospital appointments etc...and to check the diary two weeks in advance to see if your shifts had been changed  ??? They were all on fixed permanent contracts  :o

After querying her rules against policy...I reported her to the PP and happily walked out...FREE. :)
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: Bakersdozen on 20-03-22, 08:28AM
Quote from: Paulie on 19-03-22, 11:56PM
Why would you suggest taking away another premium? Once the subtract this, we will be in same position two years time on minimum wage with no premium or bonuses.

Because its inevitable that they will, however if those that are contracted to those Sunday shifts get compensated well then fair enough, last time they took the quarter away we weren't and it was a kick to the guts for those of us that have given up on our family day for years not to be.

Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: chris9997 on 20-03-22, 06:40PM
Quote from: Bakersdozen on 19-03-22, 08:33PM
Another angle on this guys is Any bonus schemes other supermarkets offer.

Everyone forgets how the union negotiated away our bonus for a 'great'  new pay deal, fast forward and we will be on minimum wage with no bonus. Tesco wonders why they have recruitment and retention problems, low pay, zero hour contracts/ flexi. Absolute shambles to the tesco of 15 years ago.

If you take away our Sunday premium pay contracted staff 2 years the difference, increase the wage to £10, bring back a bonus in success based on individual performance but pay it at Christmas, A Christmas bonus would go a long way to most staff and would probably be spent straight back into the business not to mention increasing moral & reliving some stress at a busy time.

These are things that make staff appreciate working for a supermarket, and also not next October, bring this into effect early summer at least.
paying a bonus to staff based on performance at ga level would not work as if the store was doing poorly sales wise then the bonus would not be paid all staff would not meet the criteria for it.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: BUY TESLA STOCK on 21-03-22, 12:19AM
They should pay by the case for night fillers.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: NorthernJ on 21-03-22, 02:09AM
Great way to end up with even less rotation than there currently is  8-)
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 21-03-22, 05:30AM
To be fair probably only ones that do rotate 😂, but we do need to be paid more thsts for sure, more in line / better than others
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: Duff McKagan on 21-03-22, 07:57AM
Quote from: BUY TESLA STOCK on 21-03-22, 12:19AM
They should pay by the case for night fillers.

There would be some very poor people in my store I can tell you.
In reality though where do you stop with that? Is it harder work to put out 100 cases of crisps than it is to put out 75 cases of tinned vegetables? No...crisps are easy, very light etc...tins are heavier so in my opinion the tins are more work than the crisps....but if we paid by the case the crisp filler would be paid more for less work...it's just something that wouldn't work because we aren't comparing apples with apples.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: BUY TESLA STOCK on 21-03-22, 08:15PM
 >:(
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: lordadmiral on 21-03-22, 10:00PM
About 15 yrs ago I worked with guy who worked for Tesco in Poland. He said he had to fill specific aisles per night. I do not remember what he was paid but as he had to fill two aisles in one night within his 8 hour shift (example value: £100 per shift, £50 per aisle). The sooner he finished the task the better as he could choose, to go home early and keep full pay or pick up third aisle and earn more money. He said that if he fnished his original job in 6 hours he was usually picking third aisle. If he spent 3h filling third aisle his pay was £50 more (based o example value above). This way by working one hour longer than he was contracted to, he was making 50% more.
Truth is that it is possible to implement performance related pay.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: madness on 21-03-22, 11:48PM
re above no its not, as then you dont do any cleaning, no helping customers and certainly, most importantly date rotation would not happen.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: barafear on 22-03-22, 12:12PM
Tesco want to go down the Aldi/Lidl (or even Jacks!) route of minimal time/effort in displaying stock - I noticed in another local Tesco yesterday that Hula Hoops (6 pack) were on the shelf in their original box - clearly, if everything can just be pulled from the warehouse on a forklift and plonked on the floor on pallets, then so much quicker and easier - this is all about putting the effort the way of the customer -

in European supermarkets, where they sell drinks singularly (but from a "multipack") - they're just left on the pallet and its up to customers to deal with it themselves- pull open the cellophane etc.

Already, Tesco UK are doing that to a certain extent:

1) Scan as you shop.
2) Self Service checkouts - time for my little moan on this subject - I know this isn't a "major" issue - but so annoying to see - generally when I'm shopping in other Tesco shops (As I don't work on self serve in my own Tesco) - there's a "type" of self serve shopper who thinks/believes the bags for life are free - they do everything they can to just "steal" them. Clearly, they are practiced in it - clearly they've been caught out before by just grabbing one and starting to pack - and then setting off the weight sensor - so generally they scan their shopping - pay for their shopping (I guess we should be grateful for that) and then grab the bag and pack - no attempt to pay for bag(s). Virtually everytime I go shopping and pay at self serve I see the same thing - to be fair, occasionally (maybe 20%) I do see diligent people pay - and occasionally I see the staff member encourage/remind the customer to scan the bag - and to be fair, for the sake of 20p and the staff member working on NLW (and covering 8+ tills sometimes on their own - I'm not blaming the staff here) - just society/customers in general - clearly, there's a certain "type" of customer who uses self serve anyway - and clearly they feel by doing their own scanning that they have earned at least 20p for a bag!
3) Queuing at tills changing from one in front to a "timed response" - no more time for cashiers to chat or to help with packing - or at least that's the "implied" reasons for this change in policy.



Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: BUY TESLA STOCK on 22-03-22, 06:27PM
"putting effort way of customer"

what nonsense a customer can just sit on the phone and get shopping delivered 
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: helpme on 23-03-22, 05:26PM
I moved from DotCom to Sainsburys in January. I now earn £11.50 an hour doing the same job but with far less hassle and stress while those I left behind are on £10.23 and always look as miserable as sin.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: Modena on 24-03-22, 06:14AM
That's right 60p more than us drivers at tesco good luck to you.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: Prince of Darkness on 31-03-22, 06:32AM
Hourly rate isn't the whole deal.

I put in a few bob over five years into SAYE share schemes up to two years ago. Came out £6k in profit. I'm in another scheme now which is looking similar atm. Agreed, it's a staff retention scheme as it's hard to walk away from, but it's tax free. Don't always think to the end of next week.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: barafear on 31-03-22, 09:31AM
Problem with what you described is that firstly people need to be able afford a few bob in the first place. Given the low pay, the lack of permanent FT contracts and the cost of living, that is very hard if not impossible to achieve. As for making a 6k profit from a few bob, clearly your definition of a few bob might differ from others.

Also, not sure where the tax free bit comes from. Please explain.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: Prince of Darkness on 31-03-22, 12:41PM
The gain on the shares is tax free. You can take a profit of up to £12,300 each year tax free if you sell as I did, or you can transfer the shares to an ISA within six months, and keep all the dividends and future capital gains tax free.

I was lucky to be able to afford to put in what I did, but the same percentage profit would have been there for anyone doing the same but with less original investment. It's still a profit. I don't smoke and I don't go to Costa in my break (we have one under the same roof). I probably save at least £25.00 a week compared to the guys that pick up a coffee to take outside for a fag break. I know many can't afford that either.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: NightAndDay on 31-03-22, 12:47PM
You can receive up to £2,000 a tear tax free in dividends, CGT is separate. So if you are earning more than £2,000 a year in dividends from the shares you own, you're best off transferring those shares to an ISA. Otherwise (for me anyway) I would pay 39.35% tax on anything above.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: barafear on 31-03-22, 01:34PM
Quote from: Prince of Darkness on 31-03-22, 12:41PM
The gain on the shares is tax free. You can take a profit of up to £12,300 each year tax free if you sell as I did, or you can transfer the shares to an ISA within six months, and keep all the dividends and future capital gains tax free.

I was lucky to be able to afford to put in what I did, but the same percentage profit would have been there for anyone doing the same but with less original investment. It's still a profit. I don't smoke and I don't go to Costa in my break (we have one under the same roof). I probably save at least £25.00 a week compared to the guys that pick up a coffee to take outside for a fag break. I know many can't afford that either.

Thanks for the clarification.
I wasn't necessarily implying that you were wrong - just trying to talk on bahalf of the majority of Tesco staff - given that this comment was on a thread about the pay that other supermarkets offer compared to the rates offered by Tesco.
In a way, I don't disagree with your comments about people (whether they be colleagues or not) spending "frivolously" on things such as Costa Coffees and tobacco. I think just the same anytime I hear about people moaning about the cost of fuel or utilities increasing - you wonder if they smoke/drink (to excess shall we say?) - or another one is people who spend money on tattoos but then complain they can't afford to feed their family or heat the house. But I guess we're getting into a whole new argument.

But getting back to the point about the "added benefit" that you alluded to in terms of the SAYE option.

Although you described your success story - there are clearly other times when the share price falls - I don't know exactly what scheme you were in - but looking at the historic share price for Tesco - the price in Nov 2017 was around 265p (this would have been about the time that the option price was set for the 5 year scheme that matured about now (or indeed the 3 year scheme that matured in March 2020).

I won't go into massive details here - but my original point stands here - most lowly paid non-full-time (because Tesco won't give them the contracted hours) Tesco works would struggle to lock themselves into such a scheme - certainly not for the monthly contributions that would create a potential £6k profit.

Also, I'm fairly sure (not certain) that other retailers/potential employers in similar fields would also offer a SAYE scheme.

I would struggle to think that the SAYE scheme would be one of the more beneficial benefits of working for Tesco.

Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: BUY TESLA STOCK on 31-03-22, 03:01PM
All the long standers usually buying costa and fags might have a few spare bob when the equal pay claim is settled, maybe not. You don't have to have 1000s to invest. Get yourself and Etoro fractional share account and you can invest less than £25 in most companies. If you spend time doing research and are disciplined you can ditch Legal and General as a pension provider and create your own. It wont matter if you are loosing Tesco contributions as the compound interest will soon outstrip anything Tesco would ever do to match or double what you put in.

Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: NightAndDay on 31-03-22, 06:22PM
L&G are doing a good job looking after my Tesco pension, I've made a lot more than I thought in the growth equity fund, as far as Retail goes, Tescos isn't a bad pension scheme, though the best will always be civil service, mine is better than Tescos and in both pots they are making good gains.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: Totot on 31-03-22, 06:56PM
Saye is not a benefit working in tesco, pushing the maks limit on pension to 7.5% is.
Beside, these days to invest money is really easy. Mostly if we don't aim too high, getting return 10 to 15% a year wont be hard.
Harder to save some decent amount of money to start it.

The most benefit i can have working in tesco for me will be those freebies, mostly few years ago, it can add up quite alot monthly.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: BUY TESLA STOCK on 31-03-22, 08:41PM
If you had invested £1000 in Apple this time last year you would be up 44%. Do your own research 10 15% return is easy as someone has said. With the rising costs of living very few will get the chance living pay to pay. I got a Sainsbury's bank loan at 2/3%APR to raise funds. ;) You then just need to worry about how you cover the payments of a few 100 a month if you are getting 1000s. The compound interest return long term in good companies will always outstrip the APR. I had to do something before the knees and back gave up permanently.  :)  I like to add a bit of risk investing in new start companies up but you can play safe with big companies like Costco, Apple and Microsoft. I seen one guy who released funds from a property to get that initial stake. Got bored waiting on more nightshift redundancy's and the Leigh day equal pay settlement.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: Hammer10 on 01-04-22, 05:11PM
This is a bit cheeky but has anyone heard if an announcement being made on Monday that everyone in Tesco will not like or is it an April fools joke a sick one if there is one.
Title: Re: How much do other supermarkets earn?
Post by: Hibobhi on 01-04-22, 06:51PM
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