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Less than Asda so lowest paid

Quote from: Duff McKagan on 05-03-24, 11:05AM

Quote from: NightAndDay on 05-03-24, 10:43AM

Quote from: stewright90 on 05-03-24, 10:24AMSo a 6.6% pay rise less so if you work Sundays, the union can get f****d we gave up our bonus for higher hourly pay increases, and we are below what asda will be, come July.

I am out of that s*** show union!

I think the majority would rather the 2p less per hour now than the 2p more per hour in a few months.

Tbf, this payrise isn't bad at all, the fact they are still the only retailer offering Sunday premium and paying above the real living wage is also not to be sniffed at, though there's not a lot in it between the competition (As I've predicted for a long time now), I'd say all things considered Tesco is offering one of the better remuneration packages.

It is also Retail, there really should be a certain level of expectation management when it comes to pay.

Yeah the actual hourly rate increase isn't my issue, its the lack of night premium increase that's annoyed me, night managers getting an extra £1000 a year while those of us working the same hours as them get no increase at all.

that's quite alarming if there's no staff premium upgrade and managers getting 1k a year what incentive will there be for any general assistant to work nights or any potential new staff to do same

So we won't see this £12.02 in our pockets till 24th may ??

Nope

Tescos new pay period starts on Monday 1st April so they will have to pay the national minimum wage from that date.
I think as is always the case the full details haven't been leaked and people are jumping to the wrong conclusions!
Wait till the full brief in the next few hours!

No it doesn't, it starts on 30th March

Union should hang there head in shame will be a lot leaving them

Yup the Saturday the 30th last day in cycle 31st is the first day in next pay cycle

I use to be a union rep and have seen what the money get spent on when attending training courses etc! Trust me it doesn't go to the best use.

Of course, that isn't true (about if not for union no payrise).I could well believe if it wasn't for the NLW then we might not get one or it would be minimal. But not much thanks to Union - even though people on here will still say the union have done a great job getting anything above 11.44

Basically, Tesco or any other retailer would love it if next year's NLW doesn't increase above £12 - and then we'll see how generous they are - if that were the case (i.e. NLW doesn't go above £12) then many retailers will hold back on any 2025 increase until much later in the year.

Let's face it it's nothing much to do with union about the pay rise we were allways going to be as close as Asda as possible

Quote from: Mersey1 on 05-03-24, 10:46AMAny update on shift leader pay rate?

Skill payments are staying the same.... so skill rates have devalued in worth then ... dissapointing that

Quote from: Morris999 on 05-03-24, 11:25AMTescos new pay period starts on Monday 1st April so they will have to pay the national minimum wage from that date.
I think as is always the case the full details haven't been leaked and people are jumping to the wrong conclusions!
Wait till the full brief in the next few hours!

You said it!       

Quote from: AsdaBeBetter on 05-03-24, 11:02AMPeople failing to realise that if it wasn't for the Union then there may not even be a payrise

rubbish.

If there wasn't a NMW change as much I'd expect that they'd of just increased it by 7 or 8% again and so they are bettering their "biggest ever" from last year following their commitment to the whole "colleagues don't want bonuses or premiums, they want a a better base pay" - no we want all of the above for everything we do.

Quote from: Itiswhatitis40 on 05-03-24, 12:17PM

Quote from: Mersey1 on 05-03-24, 10:46AMAny update on shift leader pay rate?

Skill payments are staying the same.... so skill rates have devalued in worth then ... dissapointing that

Skills payments have not gone up in I think five years. After the 2022 pay review was announced I emailed the USDAW national officer responsible and received this:

I do acknowledge that the way that shift leaders are paid has changed in recent years and that means that the overall increase does not automatically apply to the full hourly rate that you receive.  I'm afraid I can't comment directly on the length of time since this change was made as it was before I assumed responsibility for Tesco retail.

 

However, as I am sure you would appreciate, any set of pay negotiations does require a degree of prioritisation that ensures any pay deal delivers the maximum benefit to the maximum number of people as possible.  Equally, any improvements negotiated specifically for one group, whoever they may be, requires the agreement of the employer and is not solely within the gift of the trade union.

 

The pay claim was actually formulated back in November from the feedback that the Union received following a survey of the membership within Tesco retail, followed by a discussion and agreement from both the Pay Team (made up of 12 USDAW shop stewards) and the wider National Forum – both of which have representatives from the Shift Leader population.  It was strongly felt that, as I am sure you understand, that given the significant cost of living challenges all our members are facing now that the focus had to be on securing as much investment as possible in base rates – hence the decision to submit a single item claim that meant there was the focus on base rates of pay for all staff.  While recognising that this did not mean additional investment in Shift Leader pay it meant that the maximum amount of investment could be made in base rates and, furthermore, it does continue to maintain the same differential as currently exists between Shift Leaders and the standard base rate.  This is certainly not the case in a number of other employers that have seen a squeeze in differentials between grades (as a result of differing percentage or pence per hour increases for different grades).

 
However, I fully appreciate the points that you make and, while it is not part of the settlement this year, I am acutely aware that this is something that will need to be looked at in coming years and, I assure you, that when the process begins for formulating the 2023 claim, which begins in July via the Forum process, this will be part of these discussions.  I would strongly encourage you to ensure that this feedback is provided to your USDAW Forum Rep so that this is raised.

 
I recognise that this will not immediately alleviate your concerns but, hopefully, it does go some way to explain why and how the decisions were made and that these decisions were not made without the input and involvement of USDAW shopfloor representatives.

I did feed back via my rep. Made no difference though 

Not worth my while working Sundays now,I'll be dropping them and I'll be dropping the union while I'm at it.

No longer worthwhile being a shift leader in an express store.
The difference in pay is really no worth the hassle given we don't have a set rota and the responsibility we have.

In all my years at Tesco, this is by far the worst pay deal I've ever encountered.

Fuming doesn't even cover it. There's no glossing over it, no matter how hard the Union try to present it. It's an insult. It's outrageous. I'd expect nothing else from the company but the Union should hang their heads in shame.

Quote from: Morris999 on 05-03-24, 11:25AMTescos new pay period starts on Monday 1st April so they will have to pay the national minimum wage from that date.
I think as is always the case the full details haven't been leaked and people are jumping to the wrong conclusions!
Wait till the full brief in the next few hours!

Tesco have 4 weeks from that date to implement the NMW, as staff are paid 4 weekly. Thats why the new pay deal starts on the 28th April.

I completely agree, this pay increase is an absolute disgrace. And the union could have stood up for us better. I find this pay review offensive, and I bet by next year all our benefits will be completely stripped from us!

When I read the pay review, I decided to calculate my take home for the month - and it turns out I earn an extra £40 a month! Even on the old pay it was a struggle, but £40 extra a month is just a kick in the teeth; they fooled us into believing that they understand that the colleagues are struggling with cost of living, and that they want to help... how is a few extra quid a month going to help us pay bills, buy food - the cost living crisis is not getting any cheaper... as long as there profiting from it, then they don't care. The prices of food is so expensive now, even with the Clubcard (which I'm surprised they haven't decreased the percentage on that) Groceries are expensive, and we're all still struggling. However I'm sure they'll reach there forecasted profit of 2.75billon at the sacrifice of the staffs pay.

I'm just lost for words, to all us staff that work so hard each year to deliver there KPIs, to make them the most profitable supermarket in the UK it's a joke. where is the incentive for the colleagues anymore? stores are short staffed, one colleague is doing 3 peoples worth of jobs, but all this for what? Rubbish pay? Rubbish work standards? And have no outside work life due to having to work ridiculous amounts of hours, to afford to live. Such a joke... where is the incentive anymore to work for this company that doesn't value its employees or support them through a cost of living crisis.

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In summary, while Tesco currently holds a strong position, the future remains uncertain. Whether it will be the number one supermarket in five years depends on its strategic decisions, adaptability, and the dynamic landscape of the retail industry. 🛒🌟as for the pay deal its sucks,but we will have live with that,i,m one of the lucky ones i,m using my earnings buying tesco shares to top-up my pensions in just under 4 years i will have gone into retirement and be able to enjoy the rest of my life,so my tip of the day is start investing for your  retirement because you never know what tomorrow will bring.  From April, the minimum wage will rise by nearly a pound to £11.44 an hour for anyone aged over 21. A similar rise the year before means the minimum wage will have risen by just over 20pc in only two years. Supermarket wage wars risk derailing interest rates cuts,the outcome will be that workers will go to who pays the best wages.

Absolutely disgusting and a sign of what we can expect now we have nothing left to negotiate with. This is the UK largest private sector employer and it relies on the government to subsidise wages it can more than afford to pay but chooses not to under the guise of business models etc. For once we should be grateful to the Government for forcing them to start paying up.It will be interesting to see what happens should the equal pay claim succeed.

Shift leaders up to £14.28

I still think there should definitely be a different pay band for extra and express.. especially in a fuel site for express.

CA in a express has far more roles than a extra same for express