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Yeah thats more than likely what would happen

Quote from: fatlad on 20-10-23, 06:37PMSure if he was booted he could just post under another name??

The posts would stand out like a sore thumb ...

I know they would but it would still mean we hadn't got rid of him

Quote from: NightAndDay on 20-10-23, 05:05PMI heard on the grapevine that nights are here to stay, but pay frozen for the foreseeable future, in fact Ken Murphy went on record saying he loves night's and that they'll never be made redundant     
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Generally Knowone is any the wiser as to what future holds for nights, ken may or maynot like nights but it is all about the numbers if he wants money saved in the long term then nights/bakers are well in the firing line. A store manager in an extra told me all nights will be gone by end of 2025 this might of been her guess or she may know.

"I heard on the grapevine that nights are here to stay, but pay frozen for the foreseeable future, in fact Ken Murphy went on record saying he loves night's and that they'll never be made redundant      "

Think you missed NightAndDays' message there chris9997 . The message was a pop at They who shall not be named , not a reason to start more "I heard it from the Krispy Kreme guy" rubbish . 

Bobmay needs to go, every single thread becomes about either his pay rate or him trying to find reasons why nights are going from his store soon.

Real Living Wage goes up to £12 an hour from next week (outside London) and £13.15 inside London and yet as of today the number of people in `abject poverty` or destitution has doubled; those earning 60% below median wage. Median wage for full time is £33000, so abject poverty line is £13800 and relative poverty *the bread line* is £19800. Thats a full time (government says full time is 35 hours a week)  wage for a Band B GA with no premiums

I'm guessing Tesco aren't signed up to the Real Living Wage. How likely are they to be above that at the next pay review? Does anyone know where their pay has been in relation to the Real Living Wage previously?

Let's face it when the pay rise is announced it will inevitably be give with one hand take back with the other if the Sunday premium survives the next pay rise I would be shocked

Quote from: Bobmay on 01-10-23, 02:04PM

Quote from: oldfashionedplayer on 30-09-23, 01:24PMHe's not wrong though, they needed to save £5 billion, where do thry save it? Staff mainly... Night and Sunday premiums definitely won't be around much longer at all, it will be more flat rate, I do think with the putting everything together in aisles that makes it far easier to fill etc will be a reason they use as to go

 "we understand the need for basic pay, therefore we are  increasing the basic pay of all colleagues, and removing the night premium and Sunday premium rate as this is something we want to be more ewyal across the board, in doing so colleagues affected (not many) will get a lump sum.."   On the subject of Tesco needing to save £5 Billion could anyone give an understanding of why they would need to save such a large amount, could there be an elephant in the room such as the Lea Day equal pay claim progressing to the detriment of Tesco

Thryll just make it so it's just over, like previously with a penny per hour better off... So yeah better basic but in actuality fir nights, probably same pay / few pence more in the move to cut it.

Correct he doesnt read the reports of tesco profits. Tesco this year has lost 1 billion I profits compared to last year.considering customers are spending less stores are more quiet it is only a matter of time when they remove nights from the final express stores.

sorry i entered my comment in the wrong place, the comment for clarity is

On the subject of Tesco needing to save £5 Billion could anyone give an understanding of why they would need
to save such a large amount, could there be an elephant in the room such as the Lea Day equal pay claim
progressing to the detriment of Tesco?

I doubt it. They probably want to save money just so that they can report higher profits. They have to do this to justify their bonuses.

The wheels of justice turn very slowly these days. The ASDA staff I think pretty much won their case years and years ago but the company have tied them up in appeals courts ever since. We're years behind them and it seems to take a year just to get some stupid little hearing that's not even a major part of the process. At this rate we'll get a decision at this court in around 6 years time. Tesco (if they lose) will then of course appeal to another court or whatever and it'll be another several years tied up in court. The process will just continue for around 20 years and probably ultimately end in disappointment for staff as money talks and people in important decision making positions can be influenced when it really matters.

Quote from: Raven on 24-10-23, 11:00AMI'm guessing Tesco aren't signed up to the Real Living Wage. How likely are they to be above that at the next pay review? Does anyone know where their pay has been in relation to the Real Living Wage previously?

Historically for at least the last 4-5 pay reviews, Tesco has risen their wages to at least meet the real living wage, the news of it hitting £12 an hour was slightly more than I thought it would be but not too far off my estimate (about 10p off). With regards to Tescos pay in relation to the real living wage, for the last one, with the last real living wage figure of £10.90 an hour Tesco has in turn raised their wage to £11.02 an hour (albeit several months after the change).

Because of this my estimations of what Tescos next pay review figure will be has increased a bit, It's certainly more likely now to be at least £12 an hour, but I'd now wager on it going to £12.02 an hour, an increase of 20p on my last estimate, in light of the surprising new real living wage figure.

I'm guessing you could be right but can't see it going up to £12 in one go, it will probably be given in 2 stages

Quote from: penguin on 21-10-23, 04:29PMBobmay needs to go, every single thread becomes about either his pay rate or him trying to find reasons why nights are going from his store soon.

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Not sure where to put this but my team manager has just it slip that the Area Manager who came in for a visit today said the Colleague Admin role is going to be ditched next year with the Wage clerk becoming Wage Admin.

So when everyone thought it was Wages they were getting ready to ditch it turns out its the other way around. The Wages Clerk will be given the additional task of all Colleague Admin stuff.

I can see the logic because it means just keeping the skills payment confined to Wage Clerks and not two or more additional Colleague Admins which would end up costing more.

So when they took People Access off Admins this must have been laying the ground work.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/millions-could-get-huge-pay-increase-next-year-with-larger-than-expected-rise-to-national-living-wage-12999954

News articles today suggest the National Living Wage will go up to £11.46 an hour  next April, a larger increase than I initially expected, In light of this, I'm now revising my estimate for Tesco pay review to £12.10 an hour in April.

Let's hope they do it all in one hit & not a few smaller increments

If Tescos upped wages to anywhere near 12£ a hour I'd be gobsmacked  but if that happened you can bet premiums esp Sunday would more than likely go .. you can see it now tho safe bet 11.60 in April to prob 11.80 end next year ..

USDAW released a statement yesterday saying that they have put forward their pay negotiation request to Tesco for negotiation at the end of January. What are peoples thoughts on this? It doesn't look like they are asking for much (The New Deal for Workers Campaign demands a minimum wage of £12 per hour) however I am sure we will get much, much less than requested.

Negotiated Items:

1. A substantial increase in base rates of pay without erosion of existing terms on conditions and in support of Usdaw's New Deal for Workers Campaign.

2. Improvements to the company sick pay scheme.

3. Improvements to premium pay for the Festive Bank Holidays.

Consultative Items:

1. Improvements to Colleague Clubcard.

2. Improvements to Paternity Pay & Leave.

to be honest should increase matched pension contributions to 10%

It doesn't look like they've even taken that into consideration. Would have been a great addition though.

I don't think they've put anywhere near enough on the table... especially when Tesco will negotiate downwards.

Best we can hope for is 11.55 in my opinion.

Raven. Where did you find the statement from Usdaw? Is it on their website, or did they brief their reps? Thanks.

Can't find anything either about this Usdaw statement but it's literally hearsay atm one union rep in my store reckons 11.80 with premiums gone but we will see what's happening  come Jan