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Started by elasticspy, 08-11-22, 03:32PM
Quote from: gomezz on 08-11-22, 06:27PMIt matters not if it was a previously outstanding or new fault. It is always right to defect it and refuse to take it out. What did the previous defect report say?
Quote from: FarmerFred on 08-11-22, 06:38PMIf a TL or manager tells you to take a vehicle out with a warning light showing insist on having a signed written instruction from them to do so because if the van goes bang then they will throw you under the bus. The engine warning light may have come on for something relatively minor, but you have no way of knowing what it was for or if an additional more serious fault has occurred! I don't know about dot com, but the policy in distribution is clear - you do not take a faulty vehicle on the road because if someone gets hurt as a result then T will be facing potentially huge fines.
Quote from: hesketh on 08-11-22, 07:59PMGenerally an Amber light is a warning of a fault that will require attention and a Red light is a "Stop immediately" issue.Any Red warning lights vehicle must be stopped and recovered.An Amber should be defected on return. Once it has been defected it cannot be taken out again.Although only a warning, Amber lights could be the precursor to a major failure. The vehicle requires attention or repair from a qualified person before further use and they will reset the Amber light. Once the vehicle is displaying an Amber engine light it cannot warn you of any further faults.I very much doubt that your TL or "manager" is a qualified mechanic with the equipment to diagnose the fault and reset the light. Therefore it is not a "reasonable request" to be instructed to take out an unroadworthy vehicle.If you are stopped with an unroadworthy vehicle, or you cause an accident because of a faulty vehicle, the police will throw the book at you. Irrespective of any instructions from a TL or "manager" you are responsible not them!
Quote from: NightAndDay on 08-11-22, 08:31PMDon't need to be a mechanic to know whether a vehicle is road worthy or not, it's common knowledge. Something that can easily be covered in e-learning which you would hope there would be something for, for such a circumstance that is central to the role.Tesco would have to also follow laws around duty of care to the employees, a manager would be failing that and risking a whole plethora of other potential serious law suits for the company (probably the most expensive being corporate manslaughter). If a manager is saying to drive out vehicles which aren't legally road worthy, they're not doing their job properly.
QuoteAn amber or red EML that stays on when the engine has been started is classed as a major fault. This means it will cause your vehicle to fail its MOT test.
Quote from: Morris999 on 20-11-22, 03:15PMI'm pretty certain that an EML staying on( regardless of colour) is a automatic MOT fail for a car, if that's the case then for me it's quite simple, if the EML stays on then the vehicle is unroadworthy and therefore if you take it out, and are stopped by the police or have an accident it will be you that's liable.It won't matter what an app or your S/Leader/manager says!
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