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Pay Review 2022

Started by yeetus, 29-03-22, 08:30PM

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Hammer10

Connected to pay is this stupid idea of pay advance just pay staff a decent wage then they won't need it,why would you use this because you won't have any money left for the month if you take any of it early.

penguin

What is connected to pay, pardon my ignorance but never came across that in all my time working for Tesco.
Do not let anyone tell you there is not a decent job and life beyond Tesco.

barafear

Tesco have brought out a new initiative to allow staff to get an advance on their upcoming wages. Lots of t&c though. Only applies to your contract hours and basically you will have already earned it before you can get an advance. So if your contractual pay was £1000, you couldn't get an advance of £350 a few days after you've just been paid.....

barafear

Quote from: Charlie Harper on 17-11-22, 07:34PM
Quote from: 5fdp on 17-11-22, 04:11PMIf you had bothered to read the recent pay rise info. The company had already stated that the next pay rise would be looked at in jan 23 and given by April. Therefore, they knew this was on the cards. Its no surprise to them.

I've seen nothing about it being agreed, done & dusted & in place by April. Yes, Spring was mentioned, but I'd bet they thought this £10.30 was gonna carry them past April 5th & buy them a bit of time...why do it otherwise?


I agree with Charlie. There were some words around starting negotiations earlier with a hope of implementing an earlier increase....but it's been Tesco which has delayed increases in the last five years or so ...they always used to be from July.
Anyway, it's a bit if a farce really describing it as negotiations. Tesco very much holds the upper hand. It's not like Usdaw can threaten a strike ballot.


barafear

https://employeebenefits.co.uk/tesco-launches-pay-advance-scheme-for-staff/

For Penguin. The details are on Our Tesco, but difficult to post links to that. Here's how it's been reported.

Simonlyckntract

Any manager who is just over the 26k pay threshold has been given nothing for the cost of living when I asked just told performance related only ? Why am I paying a Union to negotiate my wages when they don't ? I think managers should pay less Union fees as we are not getting what other members are. As colleagues get represented What will happen when I can't afford my mortgages everyone else is striking it is beyond a joke the cost of living affects everyone.

barafear

Hard to argue union are doing much for colleagues in maintaining pay at barely above the legal NLW. Do managers pay a different band of Usdaw charges then? Are managers part of collective bargaining agreement? Or could they theoretically go on strike?

penguin

Quote from: barafear on 19-11-22, 07:29AMhttps://employeebenefits.co.uk/tesco-launches-pay-advance-scheme-for-staff/

For Penguin. The details are on Our Tesco, but difficult to post links to that. Here's how it's been reported.

Thanks for the link, I left back in 2020 but I know similar things to what has now been set up i.e. pay advances had been suggested via forum and other channels and the response from Tesco back in 2019 is staff do not want a system like this as only getting paid monthly is a benefit, I guess the cost of living and staff not always being able to get credit so easily given the current economic situation has altered the view somewhat.

Do not let anyone tell you there is not a decent job and life beyond Tesco.

person7

whats peoples predictions for april 2023?

if we are now on £10.30 hour

minimuim wage will be £10.42 hour (for "adults over 22) -

whats the chances tesco will beat this for april or keep us bang on the minimum wage?

Normally our pay rise october is above minimum wage for april but i have a feeling they only give us the 20p extra hour because they a phasing us to be on exact minimum wages.

forrestgimp

Quote from: Simonlyckntract on 19-11-22, 10:02AMAny manager who is just over the 26k pay threshold has been given nothing for the cost of living when I asked just told performance related only ? Why am I paying a Union to negotiate my wages when they don't ? I think managers should pay less Union fees as we are not getting what other members are. As colleagues get represented What will happen when I can't afford my mortgages everyone else is striking it is beyond a joke the cost of living affects everyone.

What do you think other members are getting that you aren't? its a genuine question I'm not trying to antagonise you.

NightAndDay

#485
To be fair to Team Managers, they have been given the short end of the stick with regards to pay reviews over the last 8 years, hourly wages aren't exactly brilliant, but they have been increasing year on year for the most part, (despite the reason being due to legal obligations for the most part). Team Manager salaries in comparison have been stagnant (a raise due to performance is not a raise, it's paying you what you're worth and is part of the Team Manager variance in pay factored by time and experience in the role, department, category of shop and headcount). A true raise would be increasing the floor and ceiling rate up, not moving up a variance in light of the aforementioned.

Team Managers have been on £22k base before this £26k base came into affect for years. In real terms, they've been getting pay cuts year on year.

As for union membership, it's not mandatory to join a union, they are providing a service, if you aren't happy with it, you can vote with your wallet. I cancelled my union membership when I was a member after 3 months as they weren't fit for purpose at the time, from what I've read, things may have improved, but they are still doing the bare minimum that they should be doing going from all accounts I've read.

Teddybonkers

#486
Quote from: Simonlyckntract on 19-11-22, 10:02AMAny manager who is just over the 26k pay threshold has been given nothing for the cost of living when I asked just told performance related only ? Why am I paying a Union to negotiate my wages when they don't ? I think managers should pay less Union fees as we are not getting what other members are. As colleagues get represented What will happen when I can't afford my mortgages everyone else is striking it is beyond a joke the cost of living affects everyone.

Just to be clear, the fake Union USDAW don't negotiate shop floor wages anymore. They are determined by central government via the minimum wage, and management wages are constantly being eroded because of this. You can alway's step down if you're unhappy - that's what Tesco would say :D

Nightproduceworker

All I say is this, next year, within the next 3 months we will find out if redundancy will be made to nights, minimum wage going up yet for Tesco to put up another lay rise will only get them a step closer to cutting out nights and going to twilights. It cuts out most of the premiums and if a fair amount of staff stay for twilight shifts, they won't need to pay them redundancy. Also with the equal pay ruling in February aswell, it's a big year for supermarkets.

Funny how Tesco just brought these "pay advances" which in my eyes, is to get people to do overtime, and just before Christmas it's a good and bad thing, depending on your finances and spending.

But the last thing is this new "salary" loan. Now Tesco bank do loans, so I'm not to sure on this, but my theory is, wether nights go or not, and if you decide to take out a salary loan, that loan you you take out, if you get made redundant, the redundancy money you would get, will go straight back into reasons pocket.

If you stay with Tesco and take one out, they get profit anyway from the wages they give you from the %.


Morrissey1912

#488
To be fair I don't think nights will go completely.  You will see a lot of managers getting cut.  Think of the savings there.

FuriousAnger

True especially in our store. For years they've been effectively overpaid shelf fillers.
Doing the same job as the night GA but on 30grand + and most have an awful attitude and dont get started on favouritism that has been witnessed.
Pretty girl they fancy has the nice light aisles while everyone else gets the heavy.


londoner83

Don't think nights will fully go in every store, but there are certainly loads that could easily be filled early morning/twilight.

If you look at management, why on a Sunday can a store run with 2-3 managers when takings £ per hour are often at the highest, yet on a Tuesday/Wednesday stores run with 2-3 times that level of management.

Finally colleague pay is now largely driven by minimum wage legislation. Do Tesco want to control wage costs and  stick to the bare minimum and have constant labour turnover as people leave for better paid roles elsewhere or pay a premium above minimum wage in the hope of attracting a more loyal workforce?

FuriousAnger

#491
Please do not quote immediately prior post(s).  .Admin.

I honestly don't think they care. They aren't interested in loyal work force. They are just interested in filling the numbers required to do the jobs and man the stores. They aren't fussed if you've worked there 5 years or 5 mins any more they see it as just being able to get new people in.

The problem you have is most new staff are students and they don't care about being off sick or anything. They also don't care about being in the union because it costs money.

With new staff the union percentage gets lower and lower which suits Tesco

General Thorn

Loyalty? what's that? Tesco made it clear they don't value loyalty anymore when they got rid of so many long time colleagues just so they could bring in students and people who take the job as a stopgap before finding a better paying, more stable employer to work for.

FuriousAnger I agree with every word you said  :thumbup:

madness

Quote from: londoner83 on 29-11-22, 07:17AMDon't think nights will fully go in every store, but there are certainly loads that could easily be filled early morning/twilight.

If you look at management, why on a Sunday can a store run with 2-3 managers when takings £ per hour are often at the highest, yet on a Tuesday/Wednesday stores run with 2-3 times that level of management.

Finally colleague pay is now largely driven by minimum wage legislation. Do Tesco want to control wage costs and  stick to the bare minimum and have constant labour turnover as people leave for better paid roles elsewhere or pay a premium above minimum wage in the hope of attracting a more loyal workforce?

Days like that there are very little holiday meetings, or training completed or 1 to 1s with colleagues. fine for a one off but you can't run like that all the time.

hornimans135

Please can someone post here the 20% Colleague discount dates please. Meny thanks.


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