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Started by MonkeyNinja, 02-06-21, 03:25AM

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Sherwoodforest

#175
There's nothing back breaking in filling a shelf there are dinosaurs in this business though, even though you get less stock, less stock holding, they think an aisle they've always done is their job and that's it, no place within Tesco for those kind of people, unless managers let them.

Bobmay

Quote from: BritishRacingGreen on 19-09-22, 06:26PMPreacherPauly - it's called 'job satisfaction'. Some of us actually enjoy what we do and give it our all - #workethic

Job satisfaction for being an donkey good luck. Some love to work as donkeys than complain when others dont accept that.

Bobmay

#177
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 20-09-22, 07:39PMThere's nothing back breaking in filling a shelf there are dinosaurs in this business though, even though you get less stock, less stock holding, they think an aisle they've always done is their job and that's it, no place within Tesco for those kind of people, unless managers let them.

Managers can break their own back I will not. Only a donkey would accept breaking their back for peanuts.  Then complain when others don't accept it.

Sherwoodforest

What is back breaking about filling a shelf?your not building st pauls, and its monkeys and peanuts not donkeys

Bobmay

Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 21-09-22, 07:27AMWhat is back breaking about filling a shelf?your not building st pauls, and its monkeys and peanuts not donkeys

Some people over work themselves like donkeys.Being paid peanuts for the work they do. That is fine by me.If they want to work 30 cages an night four sections cleaning talking delivery that up to them.Just makes them look like an mug.

Teddybonkers

#180
 :thumbup:  Tesco love a brainwashed Zombie or two.           

newguy20

Quote from: Bobmay on 21-09-22, 10:54AM
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 21-09-22, 07:27AMWhat is back breaking about filling a shelf?your not building st pauls, and its monkeys and peanuts not donkeys

Some people over work themselves like donkeys.Being paid peanuts for the work they do. That is fine by me.If they want to work 30 cages an night four sections cleaning talking delivery that up to them.Just makes them look like an mug.

Thing is. If the company is dedicated to the staff and is generally ok, then people will put their back into it and get the job done... if they are suddenly short staffed they'll push themselves to deliver.
However. When it's a shitstorm from one minute to the next, why bother?? all goodwill has evaporated.

Preacherpauly

Quote from: Bobmay on 21-09-22, 10:54AM
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 21-09-22, 07:27AMWhat is back breaking about filling a shelf?your not building st pauls, and its monkeys and peanuts not donkeys

Some people over work themselves like donkeys.Being paid peanuts for the work they do. That is fine by me.If they want to work 30 cages an night four sections cleaning talking delivery that up to them.Just makes them look like an mug.

Them they start moaning to the managers how others are not working hard enough.

Sherwoodforest

#183
And they're probably right though.

Bobmay

Quote from: Preacherpauly on 22-09-22, 11:40AM
Quote from: Bobmay on 21-09-22, 10:54AM
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 21-09-22, 07:27AMWhat is back breaking about filling a shelf?your not building st pauls, and its monkeys and peanuts not donkeys

Some people over work themselves like donkeys.Being paid peanuts for the work they do. That is fine by me.If they want to work 30 cages an night four sections cleaning talking delivery that up to them.Just makes them look like an mug.

Them they start moaning to the managers how others are not working hard enough.

They are mug. Wait until they become old age and complaining about back pain. They want to break their back working like donkeys don't by me don't complain when others won't

Bobmay

Quote from: newguy20 on 21-09-22, 07:08PM
Quote from: Bobmay on 21-09-22, 10:54AM
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 21-09-22, 07:27AMWhat is back breaking about filling a shelf?your not building st pauls, and its monkeys and peanuts not donkeys

Some people over work themselves like donkeys.Being paid peanuts for the work they do. That is fine by me.If they want to work 30 cages an night four sections cleaning talking delivery that up to them.Just makes them look like an mug.

Thing is. If the company is dedicated to the staff and is generally ok, then people will put their back into it and get the job done... if they are suddenly short staffed they'll push themselves to deliver.
However. When it's a shitstorm from one minute to the next, why bother?? all goodwill has evaporated.

Not my problem if Tesco dont hire staff I will not be breaking my back I will do whatever I can do. The managers themselves threaten people who leave than complain about work not being done.

NightAndDay

Only work hard for companies that care about staff and recognises it, Tesco is an employer of attrition, they promote on needs of the business firstly and capability lastly, we are in the midst of an economic downturn very similar to the great depression, there will be more staff chasing fewer management roles. You could be working every day giving it your all for years before you'd get a look in for promotion. It is much more economically viable and easier to just apply for management vacancies at a competitor.

Bobmay

#187
Please do not quote immediately prior post(s).  .Admin.

I agree I worked with people who worked so hard doing 4 people jobs staying behind later 7 hours extra then coming in early missing on sleep.  They did this to get position of manager yet weren't given it.  It doesn't matter how hard they worked they never got the position.

Preacherpauly

#188
Is Tuesday the 27th December a BH for Tesco?

If we're contracted Monday night( boxing day) do we have to come in?

oldfashionedplayer

For days, its the Monday / Tuesday, For Nights its the Saturday / Sunday, since Bank Holidays for Nights are from the Night BEFORE the bank holiday, So 24th into 25th, and 25th into 26th are Nights,  and 27th / 28TH are days.

Same for the week after for New year

https://colleague-help.ourtesco.com/hc/en-us/articles/360059347891-UK-Bank-Holidays

https://colleague-help.ourtesco.com/hc/en-us/articles/5657036418972

Sherwoodforest

@oldfashionedplayer christmas eve not a bank holiday, our night team does 4pm-10pm christmas eve if were scheduled to work ,wether you work day or nights sunday is never a bank holiday,,not sure why youd think nights bhols 2 days before days bhols

5fdp

For nights...sat bh, sun hol and mon bh. Very similar to last yr. 3 night break. However the bh payment only kicks in at midnight.

Johnzo88

#192
Here is some of a newsletter from the union back in September about Xmas working arrangements.

Christmas Working Arrangements

At the time of writing, the Christmas Working arrangements had not yet been communicated to stores. This is expected to happen in Tesco week 34 (week commencing 17 October). However, we thought it would be useful to outline some general principles around Christmas and New Year working.

New Year's Day
If stores are open, working on Sunday 1 January will be voluntary for all staff. Where staff are contracted to work on a Sunday and do not want to, they will have the option to work their hours at a different time in the week, take holiday, take a personal day, take the day unpaid (if this is the colleagues preference).

Night Staff
The night prior to the designated Bank Holiday is treated as the voluntary shift.
In addition, in the same way that Christmas Day and New Year's Day are voluntary for day staff, even though they are not the designated Bank Holidays this year, the Saturday into Sunday shifts (Christmas Eve into Christmas Day and New Year's Eve in to New Year's Day) will be voluntary for night staff with the same options as above i.e. staff can take holiday or make time up etc.
Some stores may start the Christmas Eve night shift early, to enable night teams to finish early.

Pay
Bank Holiday premium is paid for hours worked between 00:00 and 23:59 on the designated Bank Holiday (which this year will be moving from the Sundays, as set out above).
Seasonal Working Arrangement Meetings
Managers will start to hold seasonal working arrangement meetings with staff from the end of October.

Voluntary Working
Working on Christmas Day, Boxing Day and New Year's Day is voluntary for all members of staff, regardless of when they started with Tesco. 2 January is also voluntary in Scotland. The exception would be for anyone employed on a contract that specifically states they will be required to work these days.

Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve
Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve are normal working days. Staff wanting time off will have to book it from their holiday entitlement, use their Personal Day or agree a shift swap. These options would need to be agreed to by their Manager.

Moving the Bank Holidays
As Christmas Day and New Year's Day will fall on Sundays this year, the designated Bank Holiday for Christmas Day will move to Tuesday 27 December and for New Year's Day will move to Monday 2 January (in Scotland it will move to Tuesday 3 January). The transfer of the Bank Holiday from Sunday to the next standard working day
is in line with Tesco's usual practice when a Bank Holiday falls on Sunday.
The usual Bank Holiday working arrangements will apply to the moved designated Bank Holidays of 27 December and 2 January (3 January in Scotland) – working on these days will be voluntary for all staff.

Christmas Day
All Tesco stores will be closed on 25 December. However, if there is any need for staff to be in store this will be on an entirely voluntary basis.
Staff who are contracted to work on Sunday will have the following options:
● work their hours at a different time in the week;
● take a day's holiday;
● take a personal day; or
● take the day unpaid (if the day is taken unpaid, this must be the colleague's choice rather than it being forced on them as the only option).

Poppy123

Quote from: 5fdp on 15-11-22, 08:53AMFor nights...sat bh, sun hol and mon bh. Very similar to last yr. 3 night break. However the bh payment only kicks in at midnight.
Is this correct or do nightstaff have to work Boxing Day as the night before is the holiday?

5fdp

As per last year, night staff have the option to use up a holiday on the 25th, And the 1st or work some other time or take as unpaid. Night mgrs should stop getting so uptight about it. This is company policy. If  they can't get a shift together for 3 nights so be it. Tesco wants you to have family time so have it.

Shazzaboo70

#195
The personal day is it included in your overall holiday hours or separate?

oldfashionedplayer

personal day only shows when its taken, its just One Full day, so your hours won't show it, so if your payslip shows like 70 hours remaining and no mention of personal day, you've still got it to take, its usually used on your last one, but it'll be on your Longest shift if you work different length shifts.

Redshoes

#197
Quote from: Shazzaboo70 on 18-11-22, 09:09PMThe personal day is it included in your overall holiday hours or separate?

It's separate, it's a full day off and not an amount of hours.

Poppy123

So if I am
Contracted to work on Monday night at 11pm ie boxing night is this then voluntary?  Can I be made work?

Sherwoodforest

#199
@Poppy123, Sun/Monday for nights are bhols,the Saturday is not bhol but voluntary

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