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Bank Holiday working

Started by MonkeyNinja, 02-06-21, 03:25AM

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Duff McKagan

What happens if you're not contracted on Sunday and Monday nights then?.
Normally I'd use a BH day for Christmas eve and Christmas Day then another one for New Year's Eve. Christmas Day falls on Sunday this year which is my contracted day off so I don't need to use a Bank Holiday day for that....that means I'll be using 2 BH days over Christmas and New Year rather than 3. Meaning out of my entitlement of 8 I should now have 1 remaining to book at another time yet I'm being told in store that Tesco aren't recognising the bank holiday changes so I don't get the day back for Christmas Day. That means I'm losing a BH day entirely then. This seems wrong to me. I already got shafted on the Jubilee and the Queen's funeral and now I feel like I'm being shafted at Christmas as well.
The bank holiday for Christmas is now on the Tuesday which is a contracted shift so I should either be allowed to book that off using that one remaining day or work it for extra pay but I'm not being given either of those options.

Anyone else have Sunday and Monday nights off? What have you been told is happening?

Sherwoodforest

@duff sun,monday should be bhol for nights, and saturday voluntary(you should use bhol hours for that) tuesday normal for nights

Duff McKagan

Why would I use a bank holiday for a day that I'm not contracted to work? I don't work Sundays yet I'm having to use a day of my BH entitlement. When other bank holidays fall on my other day off i get them back so why is this different? Been with Tesco 20 years and never encountered this issue before. I've not been given the option of having the actual bank holiday, the Tuesday off...as far as they're concerned I'll be using it on the Sunday...but as I said...why would I use a BH day on a day I don't work?

Sherwoodforest

#203
@duff no such thing as bhol anymore only holiday hours, like I explained Sat is not a bhol so if you want it off you use 7.5 hours of holiday, the system wont use any of your holiday hours for Sun, Mon if your not contracted, the 2 days you normally use if your contracted Xmas, box day would still be in HOLIDAY HOURS.  No such thing as bhol day back as all holiday hours are there in black and white at start of the holiday year.

Redshoes

#204
As above, BH and holidays are now just hours. The system will not allow you to book hours on a day off.   It will only allow hours to be booked when scheduled to work.

Duff McKagan

So I should have hours left since Sunday 25th isn't contracted, yet I'm told I have none left. I am told I'm working on Tuesday 27th which is now the bank holiday, I've been given no option to book this off, been told I have no more holiday time left. How can that be if I haven't used any hours for the Sunday? I haven't used the hours elsewhere nor have I used my PD so as far as I'm concerned I still have 15 hrs left to use.

forrestgimp

you have obviously used them or pre booked them, your holiday allowance is not separated into holiday and bank holiday anymore its a lump sum.

Duff McKagan

I haven't used them, nor have I pre booked them. I have copies of all the holiday I have booked and according to that I still have 7.5 hrs plus my personal day left to book. Yet manager insists I won't get the 7.5hrs. Essentially he is saying that because Christmas Day falls on my day off it's tough luck. This means I am in effect using holiday hours for a day I wouldn't be working anyway. I believe he has made a mistake, and once Christmas is over it will become clear that I still have hours to book.

BritishRacingGreen

#208
I hope you get this sorted quickly Duff.
My core days are Sunday, Tuesday and Friday. I am marked as on holiday on 25th and 1st. I am not marked with anything on 26th and I'm scheduled in on the Tuesday 27th.The problem shows itself on the holiday hours left on the bottom of our payslips because they don't take into account remaining holidays already booked and particularly those assigned to what the app still calls bank holidays.
Do we actually have a choice as to whether to take holiday or unpaid leave for core days falling on bank holidays?

Sherwoodforest

If you have no holiday hours left,you can book off unpaid  and @ duff already told you nights bhol sunday monday so not sure why your going on about tuesday still

me-only-me

We are being told Tesco is not recognising Monday  night 26th as bank holiday..

Sherwoodforest

#211
@me only me,Tesco bank holiday calendar says bhols 26th, 27th, that's Tesco, not your manager,TESCO,   ,,,,,,,  I work nights and for nights its Sunday,Monday with Saturday voluntary(our store does 4pm-10pm night team on Xmas eve ) if you worked days and were only contracted Sun, Mon, Tues you would get 3 days off if you booked it, why would nights be treated differently?

me-only-me

#212
I work nights and I'm being told Monday night is not a bank holiday, but saw Tesco calender says the Monday night will be classed b/h . Thank you for your reply.

5fdp

If you work nights sat sun mon. Sat is hols and the other 2 are bh. Thats it.

forrestgimp

#214
Quote from: Duff McKagan on 05-12-22, 11:42AMI haven't used them, nor have I pre booked them. I have copies of all the holiday I have booked and according to that I still have 7.5 hrs plus my personal day left to book. Yet manager insists I won't get the 7.5hrs. Essentially he is saying that because Christmas Day falls on my day off it's tough luck. This means I am in effect using holiday hours for a day I wouldn't be working anyway. I believe he has made a mistake, and once Christmas is over it will become clear that I still have hours to book.

If that is the case then yes there is an issue, I would ask for a printout of all holidays taken and pre-booked and see if they tally with your records.

lucgeo

Do they no longer have the part on your payslip which states days/hours taken and those remaining to take? Is PD still kept separate or incorporated into the hours allowance?

Before the changeover, the payslip used to state holidays taken/ left to take. BH entitlement and PD were separate from holidays on the system and very often people who had booked BH / PD leave were incorrectly entered as holidays taken! Then people were told they'd taken too many holidays and weren't paid!! It happened that often, yet the wages clerk didn't cross check until specifically asked to do so, usually by me  :-X
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oldfashionedplayer

#216
It does state the hours taken, remaining and then nothing if PD hasn't been taken, if PD has then says it's been taken but otherwise it doesn't include PD hours since its ONE full day (whichever is longest). but asking for a print out and a go through shows what is authorised on the system so you can fact check it of what has been put in and what you have down... shows all holidays and absences so you know what's paid and what's not, not authorised is unpaid....

Had to do it recently to sort mine out and found 6 weren't in the system that were handed in beforehand, with 1 I'd taken only been paid for half a shift - hence better to check now and again because can't trust them at all.

5fdp

Your personal day is separate to your allowed holiday hours.

Duff McKagan

Seems some of you are having similar issues, it would appear some stores are telling their staff different stories with regards to which bank holidays are being recognised. Initially I was told Tuesday was a bank holiday, then I was told it wasn't, I was told I wouldn't need to use a holiday day for the Sunday, now I'm told I will need to use one despite the system not allowing holidays to be booked on non contracted days.
All I know is I have not used or pre booked all my holiday hours or my personal day yet I'm being told I only have the personal day left. I think in my case it's a management mistake and misinformation around the bank holiday. As usual communication is c**p.
As for the Saturday, in our store there is no option to work, there is no night crew on Christmas Eve so we have no choice but to use a holiday day so at least there's no confusion over that part.

5fdp

#219
Be thankful that you have no shift on Sat night. If it means that much to you about working it offer to work at another Tesco that does have a shift. There will be many.

Redshoes

#220
Quote from: Duff McKagan on 05-12-22, 11:42AMI haven't used them, nor have I pre booked them. I have copies of all the holiday I have booked and according to that I still have 7.5 hrs plus my personal day left to book. Yet manager insists I won't get the 7.5hrs. Essentially he is saying that because Christmas Day falls on my day off it's tough luck. This means I am in effect using holiday hours for a day I wouldn't be working anyway. I believe he has made a mistake, and once Christmas is over it will become clear that I still have hours to book.
Just ask for a holiday report. It will show all holidays that have been booked. There is also a report that shows hours yet to book. Booked holidays will also show on extra hours market.

5fdp

#221
The holiday report is not top secret. Its your time off. Your mgr should be happy to show you what you have taken what you have booked till year end and any outstanding balance. Your personal day is separate. If you are not contracted to Sat Sun Mon you will not use up any entitlement.  The system won't allow it to happen. Our mgrs sit down with the staff and show them the info so it can all get booked in ASAP.

Duff McKagan

Quote from: 5fdp on 08-12-22, 12:20AMBe thankful that you have no shift on sat night. If it means that much to you about working it offer to work at another tesco that does have a shift. There will be many.
I never said I wanted to work Saturday, I simply said there is no choice at our store, it's a given that a holiday day will be used so there's no confusion. Wind your neck in

brickinthewall

I'm contracted to work Mondays from 5pm till 9pm on grocery. Because Monday is a B/H and the shop I work at closes at 6pm, do I need to come in? I've used all my holiday allowances.

oldfashionedplayer

there isn't bank holiday allowance anymore, it's hours now, so you'd just have to book it off as a holiday request to take it off and for your shift it would be used as 3.45 hours of holiday hours.

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