verylittlehelps

Its still going ahead.

It isn't. The last day of the wage clerk role should have been September 30th. All plans are on hold and consultation which should have started next week scrapped.

Ditto with the plans to roll out job14 to mornings which was due to start in two weeks.  That is also on hold.

I don't know how much more of this uncertainty I can take.
My mental health is getting worse by the day!
The wage clerk role has been chipped away at until there is so little to do it is ridiculous.
I wish they would just make a decision and tell us what is happening with our role.

Totally agree, this has been going on far to long!  We need to know so  can decide to either apply for another vacancy internal or another job if its redundancy etc.  I bet they will do it at Christas or something when no jobs available!  The stress/worry this is causing so many long standing loyal staff! Tesco and Mental health for their staff😆

Tesco are a joke on mental health,they couldn't careless.

Are you wage clerks who, by your own admission, doing practically nothing these days, helping on the shop floor or something with all this spare work time to make the day pass quicker?

The admins have less to do than the Wage Clerks these days, they don't even have access to anything anymore.

Checkout Superstar, that's not true if you look at the new Admin Job description it's 3 times the size of Wage Clerk's half of the new wage clerk job description was HRAM which is not valid on W&P. Please do check your info! 

I don't need to check my info. I'm not doubting how much admin used to have to do, I'm saying now that ALL admins have had people access removed from them. Its been a company wide thing some are being given it back but many have had requests refused.

I heard from my store manager directly that the Wage role is going and that the admin role will be drastically reduced in hours too. All wage and admin colleagues will be put into consultation with the highest scorer staying in the new admin role and the others moving to new departments. 

I don't know how the scoring will work, I'm guessing stuff like sickness, overtime, availability, warnings and reviews will play the biggest part.
 
I have no reason to doubt that is coming. The fact all Admin Colleagues have lost people access tells me the changes they plan to roll out accidently came a bit too soon.

The facts: are: the scheduler once working correctly should remove all exceptions. Sick calls etc are supposed to be dealt with by managers anyway and very soon recruitment will fall solely to managers too. The whole point of the shift leaders was to free up managers to be their own admins.

Feels like we've already had this chat but Extras are the only one's that still have admins.  All the other Tesco manage fine without them, and in the all non Extras the wage clerks are multi skilled.

It was always going to come where Extras followed suit and got rid. 

Quote from: grim up north on 25-07-23, 12:46PMAre you wage clerks who, by your own admission, doing practically nothing these days, helping on the shop floor or something with all this spare work time to make the day pass quicker?

I'm still as busy as ever.

Some managers have started to do things which I used to do and then I spend half my shift sorting out the mess they've made.
I no longer tell them what they are doing wrong because I've had the same conversation day in day out, week in week out for the last 2 years.
Unless the Company do some major training with the managers God help all of you because pay queries are going to go through the roof. 
Most of them don't know/understand Company policies so that will lead to even more problems.
And as for spending days/weeks/months trying to sort out an issue via Colleague Help. Yeah, right. My current record is 84 days trying to sort somebody's pay out. Mistake after mistake by CH, where they assumed what the problem was and acted without asking for further information.

^^ That Elly is why I think this is the other way around. I don't think its the Wage Clerk role at risk. Its the Colleague Admin role that is going.

Look at the evidence, all admin colleagues have had their access to People, Frog and Tam revoked. The Wages clerk was not effected only Admins.

Like I said. In all stores but Extras the Wage Clerks are multi skilled who only do a few hours on wages then work on the shop floor for the rest of the time. So its easier to ditch the Admin role, keep Wages and have them multi skilled. 

Bookmark me.  Good luck to all Wages and Admin Colleagues who are likely to end up fighting it out for the same job.  Tesco sure knows how to make us all love working here.

Sorry but what I'm reading cannot be true in the slightest.

The past two users sum up the most likely outcome. In all stores a Wage Clerk exists, in all stores the Colleague Admin role does not. Only Extras and some select Superstores still have the Admin role. Yet the Wages role is in each and every store regardless of size.

Therefore if Wages and Admin are merging its likely to be the Wage Clerk who stays and the admins get a bye bye. It would be grossly unfair to remove the Wage Clerk in any consultation if their job role isn't actually going.. .

Wages won't be going. As you said every store needs and has one in some shape or form.

My guess is that Wages will absorb Admin tasks like the legal compliance stuff, possibly recruitment too.   

So as its a new role all wages and admin colleagues will go into consolation and be ranked on what ever point system they decide to use.

I still don't see that holding up. If the Wages role isn't actually going then they can't just remove the current Wage clerk and replace them with an Admin  The Wage clerk surely stays as they are and its the Admins at risk - new job title or no new job title  - Wages will still be there.. 

Good point well made tbf

I did always think it was strange they would ditch Wages but keep admin when admins only exist in the Extras anyway. Maybe this is why they have put it all on hold it could just be the admins that are going.

That would certainly make more sense given all the access changes.

Wages and Admin are treated as two different departments. If Wages is still going to be there, which it certainly will be even under a new title, then the Wage Clerk holds all the cards. Its the Admin role that is changing therefore it technically should be only admins effected.

That's my take and I've seen no evidence to suggest otherwise. Fact Admins no longer have People Access would back up my theory.

Quote from: Eunnii on 26-07-23, 07:50AMWages and Admin are treated as two different departments. If Wages is still going to be there, which it certainly will be even under a new title, then the Wage Clerk holds all the cards. Its the Admin role that is changing therefore it technically should be only admins effected.

That's my take and I've seen no evidence to suggest otherwise. Fact Admins no longer have People Access would back up my theory.

I disagree with that theory as they don't want to be paying WC .42p so it will be WC and the reason behind taking access away from Admins and everyone else is so that the job will decrease it will probably be amalgamation with recruitment for inductions etc. have a new name e.g Resources no extra premium as their job will be far less more of a guardian when needed on shop-floor rest of the time.

As Manager's /Shift Leaders will be doing most of it! Tesco do not want people with knowledge look how many Managers we have lost for kids that know nothing don't know people policies etc. just want yes/no kids that.  As Colleagues will be doing everything themselves on their apps its up to the individual to source the info they require, book their own lifestyle, maternity, everything! 

But it's only Admins who have had access revoked. They are deemed not important enough for People Access.

That says alot

Quote from: WAGs on 26-07-23, 08:27AM

Quote from: Eunnii on 26-07-23, 07:50AMWages and Admin are treated as two different departments. If Wages is still going to be there, which it certainly will be even under a new title, then the Wage Clerk holds all the cards. Its the Admin role that is changing therefore it technically should be only admins effected.

That's my take and I've seen no evidence to suggest otherwise. Fact Admins no longer have People Access would back up my theory.

I disagree with that theory as they don't want to be paying WC .42p so it will be WC and the reason behind taking access away from Admins and everyone else is so that the job will decrease it will probably be amalgamation with recruitment for inductions etc. have a new name e.g Resources no extra premium as their job will be far less more of a guardian when needed on shop-floor rest of the time.

As Manager's /Shift Leaders will be doing most of it! Tesco do not want people with knowledge look how many Managers we have lost for kids that know nothing, don't know people policies etc. just want yes/no kids.  As Colleagues will be doing everything themselves on their apps its up to the individual to source the info they require, book their own lifestyle, maternity, everything! 

Coms has come down to say Admin Colleagues will not be getting access back. Only the store manager and Wage Clerk should have People Access as of now.

Quote from: Checkout Superstar on 26-07-23, 02:47PMComs has come down to say Admin Colleagues will not be getting access back. Only the store manager and Wage Clerk should have People Access as of now.

So, at Extra's who does the Wage Clerk role whilst He/She is on Holiday/sick/days off??

When it relates to absences the team managers are supposed to take care of it themselves... the coms for that came down several weeks ago. I'm guessing if the wage clerk is off then it's the wage/admin manager who does it in their absence.

However, Wages *is* going and sorry to burst anyones bubble it will not be rebranded or merged with Admin.  The changes you are seeing now are in preparation for it.  I did keep warning ya'll. I was told by my store manager who heard it from his wife (who just so happens to be Area Manager) Wages will disappear and Admin  will be reduced to 4 hours a day. It's all slotting into place.

Quote from: WAGs on 27-07-23, 12:24AM

Quote from: Checkout Superstar on 26-07-23, 02:47PMComs has come down to say Admin Colleagues will not be getting access back. Only the store manager and Wage Clerk should have People Access as of now.

So, at Extra's who does the Wage Clerk role whilst He/She is on Holiday/sick/days off??

I had to leave my log in details (not very security focused) so Admin could do my job while I was on holiday.   

Unfortunately I have to backtrack on my previous comments.

This is what my store manager told me (Admin) and our Wage Clerk yesterday after the coms about access came down.

Admins will not be getting access to People back - this came down on coms yesterday so is now official. They have politely requested all stores stop sending off access requests as they will not be acted on.. 

Managers are to deal with all staff absences themselves. So if an absence which hasn't been coded shows up as an exception its a Lets Talk for the Manager concerned. This came down on coms about 5 weeks ago so is also now official

All holidays can only be submitted via MyTesco for approval. Any holidays which are manually allocated or come up as an exception will be another Lets Talk for Manager concerned.  The SM can now see everything - don't ask how cos I don't know.

All extra hours/new contracts etc have to be uploaded/processed onto Frog by said department manager concerned.

Recruitment is to be done by department managers - the only role Admin will now play in Recruitment are Inductions.

This brings all larger stores pretty much in line with smaller stores where Managers do it all themselves.

Clearly all this is showing a phasing out of the Wage Clerk which Managers taking up the bulk of Wages tasks themselves. We can all talk about how much of a disaster this will be but the direction of travel here is clear. The SM said he is expecting an announcement on Wages mid August.

Where this leaves Admins remains to be seen but any idea that Admins will become the new Wages is very misguided and given its now official that Admins are not getting People Access back its time to wake up to what is happening. I think Wages will be gone by the end of the year and Admin will be gone, or very scaled back, by this time next summer.