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Quote from: Bobmay on 01-07-23, 03:23PMVery soon they will get rid of cleaners in big stiresjust like in express.Tesco loves cutting down staff numbers now they sill simply not pay redundancy avd just move people around what a dump it has become.

If it's such a dump - why are you still there Bobmay?

Most of us that stay are waiting for redundancy. I would I am lucky working nights in express store because very soon they will be removing nights from it just like they did in various stores.

Quote from: JJH on 01-07-23, 06:59PM

Quote from: MerchMan007 on 01-07-23, 03:31PMCan't understand why people stay if they find the place so bad to work for 

Never understood this, we don't work in an environment with non-transferable skills.

I know when I've had frustrations with the company I actively searched for jobs elsewhere and had a couple of interviews.

Most of did do that we would find other jobs in other places. However we now very soon considering we are the last few Express with nights we would be disappointed if we left than a few weeks later they gave out redundancy.

Quote from: madness on 01-07-23, 08:18PM

Quote from: Bobmay on 30-06-23, 02:18PM

Quote from: King1999 on 29-06-23, 05:07PMOr even more novel.....drop the serve, pick and fill BS and give people pride in their jobs again, so they want to do the extra shifts.  Creating a place where they enjoy their job and want to do more, like it use to be.  Never happen I know.

Tesco will never drop that.  In fact they wished they had done it sooner.  if they need to cut hours now they can and instead move people around without no large payout.

Yep 100%
They believed that people were far more loyal and wouldn't take the money and just move to another retailer.

Retail is far more competitive today. Tesco wants to work on the model of lidl and aldi. Where there us no redundancy and people are moved around where they need them. Why pay 40k for redundancy when you can just put someone on different departments which saves cost of training and interviews plus the person has experience.  In my  situation it is far better since I work in Express store for nights so if they do want to cut in order to save they will need to pay redundancy.  Considering I work nights and get paid 14.30 an hour and 16 pound an hour on bank holidays and Sundays, I strongly believe they will want to cut that.  They are already struggling for staff in morning evenings anyway.

Ah Bombay must be your quarterly year rant hoping for redundancy.Said it before you won't get it

Quote from: Bobmay on 02-07-23, 05:32AM

Quote from: madness on 01-07-23, 08:18PM

Quote from: Bobmay on 30-06-23, 02:18PM

Quote from: King1999 on 29-06-23, 05:07PMOr even more novel.....drop the serve, pick and fill BS and give people pride in their jobs again, so they want to do the extra shifts.  Creating a place where they enjoy their job and want to do more, like it use to be.  Never happen I know.

Tesco will never drop that.  In fact they wished they had done it sooner.  if they need to cut hours now they can and instead move people around without no large payout.

Yep 100%
They believed that people were far more loyal and wouldnt take the money and just move to another retailer.

Retail is far more competitive today. Tesco wants to work on the model of lidl avd aldi. Where there us no redundancy avd people are moved around where they need them. Why pay 40k for redundancy when you can just put somone on different departments which saves cost of trainings and interviews plus the person has experience. In my  situation it is far better since I work in Express store for nights so if they do want to cut in order to save they will need to pay redundancy. Considering I work nights avd get paid 14.30 an hour and 16 pound an hour on bank holidays avd sundays I strongly believe they will want to cut that. They are already struggling for staff in morning evenings anyway.

Agreed they want the Aldi Lidl model but they dont want to drop the beurocratic c**p that tesco has. 18 year old kids on 12 hr contracts that are 1 month into a job being allowed to change stock levels is madness...

Are we still meant to be rumbling for 2 hours a day?

Quote from: madness on 02-07-23, 12:38PM

Quote from: Bobmay on 02-07-23, 05:32AM

Quote from: madness on 01-07-23, 08:18PM

Quote from: Bobmay on 30-06-23, 02:18PM

Quote from: King1999 on 29-06-23, 05:07PMOr even more novel.....drop the serve, pick and fill BS and give people pride in their jobs again, so they want to do the extra shifts.  Creating a place where they enjoy their job and want to do more, like it use to be.  Never happen I know.

Tesco will never drop that.  In fact they wished they had done it sooner.  if they need to cut hours now they can and instead move people around without no large payout.

Yep 100%
They believed that people were far more loyal and wouldnt take the money and just move to another retailer.

Retail is far more competitive today. Tesco wants to work on the model of lidl avd aldi. Where there us no redundancy avd people are moved around where they need them. Why pay 40k for redundancy when you can just put somone on different departments which saves cost of trainings and interviews plus the person has experience. In my  situation it is far better since I work in Express store for nights so if they do want to cut in order to save they will need to pay redundancy. Considering I work nights avd get paid 14.30 an hour and 16 pound an hour on bank holidays avd sundays I strongly believe they will want to cut that. They are already struggling for staff in morning evenings anyway.

Agreed they want the Aldi Lidl model but they dont want to drop the beurocratic c**p that tesco has. 18 year old kids on 12 hr contracts that are 1 month into a job being allowed to change stock levels is madness...

Why do you Night workers think thet will be made redundant?  When you are all on the same contract as a Wage Clerk or any other member of Staff since October?  Both jobs are going at some point in actual fact as Night workers you can do fill in days they will ask for you to do twilight's or something!  Where as alot of Wage Clerk's only do Wages and are too old to be filling, picking, etc.

I pointed out a few months ago that in Ireland we seem to be implementing new routines ahead of the UK now. Changes to reductions/size of management teams/shift leads etc, and that lots of the speculation around redundancy would be clear in February as it's been blatantly obvious over here for close to ten years that tesco were gearing up to reduce the nightcrews as much as possible.

We had about 12 stores over here  with nightcrews (all extras with big dotcom operations). Big push last year to refit a huge number of stores. 5 of the stores with a nightcrew had there refits completed before Xmas last year and lo and behold come February this year there were nightshift redundancies. Some gone completely, others down to a manager and 3 staff (that store takes 1.5 million on a good week). I have it on good authority the staff in that store were told they don't have long left either. The other 7 shops with nightcrews will have the refits completed soon.

We've also cut dotcom slots so the pick is pushed out and doesn't start until 8am.

It's all heading in the direction  of nights going in as many stores as the depot can accomodate. And it will mean redundancy offers for nights as nights to days is legally an unreasonable request and grounds for redundancy.

And just to clarify some points on my previous post, those store  refits included all new freezers, fridges and produce cabinets, the fridges all have doors and the produce cabinets all have the insulated curtain you pull down when the store is presumably closed to save on energy. All lighting was redone in the stores (including new timing circuits).

General feeling here is that the refits were part of a tax dodge after the windfall covid profits.

The company is killing a few birds with one stone here, spend the money while they have it/refit the stores to be more energy efficient/do it while there's still a nightcrew in place/ then clear out the night teams and reap the energy savings. The shops are lit up like Xmas trees over night for literally 2 or 3 people in some stores.

My advice to anyone on nights with a good number of years of service is to stick it out for 6 to 18 months and your in with a shot at redundancy. Take it if they offer it.

The last rounds of redundancy I saw 2 guys on nights with the same service. One took a move to days, got an 8k payout (lost 4k on tax) store manager played on his fears of not finding other work too easily and convinced him totake the move. The other guy took 25k in redundancy (tax free) and got a phone call less than two months later to come back despite there being a supposed 6 month minimum break between redundancy and returning to the company

Can't wait to see the comments on above post    thank you for taking the time to share this

Come on @Bobmay, where you at? They're singing your song here....

 

Quote from: sammy on 02-07-23, 01:53PMAre we still meant to be rumbling for 2 hours a day?

It's at the store managers discretion...some do it, some don't...its not a requirement anymore

Anyone got link to download new colleague app please ?

QuotePlease do not make same post in two topics.  Admin.

If I was on Nights I'd be holding out for redundancy too. It'll be coming soon enough, and they're the only department that'll still qualify for it. The stress of hanging on for my last few years paid off handsomely when they had the bakery cull, and I snapped their hands off to get out.

You say that nights are the last to qualify for redundancy. If nights do go, then the bakers will have nowhere to go on their hours and also qualify for redundancy.

Quote from: Doodah on 03-07-23, 12:42AMAnd just to clarify some points on my previous post, those store  refits included all new freezers, fridges and produce cabinets, the fridges all have doors and the produce cabinets all have the insulated curtain you pull down when the store is presumably closed to save on energy. All lighting was redone in the stores (including new timing circuits).

General feeling here is that the refits were part of a tax dodge after the windfall covid profits.

The company is killing a few birds with one stone here, spend the money while they have it/refit the stores to be more energy efficient/do it while there's still a nightcrew in place/ then clear out the night teams and reap the energy savings. The shops are lit up like Xmas trees over night for literally 2 or 3 people in some stores.

My advice to anyone on nights with a good number of years of service is to stick it out for 6 to 18 months and your in with a shot at redundancy. Take it if they offer it.

The last rounds of redundancy I saw 2 guys on nights with the same service. One took a move to days, got an 8k payout (lost 4k on tax) store manager played on his fears of not finding other work too easily and convinced him totake the move. The other guy took 25k in redundancy (tax free) and got a phone call less than two months later to come back despite there being a supposed 6 month minimum break between redundancy and returning to the company

Personally I don't think you can compare UK mainland to Ireland as I would expect the running of the stores differ quite considerably.

Quote from: fatlad on 04-07-23, 09:35PMAnyone got link to download new colleague app please ?

QuotePlease do not make same post in two topics.  Admin.

I think the My T one can be downloaded via C0lleague Help and the Q app is via the app store.

 

Quote from: chris9997 on 05-07-23, 06:47PMPersonally I don't think you can compare UK mainland to Ireland as I would expect the running of the stores differ quite considerably.

That was the case many years ago when the Irish operation was making money hand over fist, upper echelons were left to their own devices. Then the recession hit and the discounters started gaining a serious foothold,so the Irish operation came under more scrutiny and the  last ten years has seen a big push to get stores running as close to the UK setup as possible. And as I said I've noticed them make changes here over the last few years and then see it implemented in the UK by following threads on here.

The real crux of whether a stores night team will go or not will depend on the capabilities of distribution to get deliveries in at the new time. Either early 4/5am or 8/9 pm the evening before, that's the only barrier to removing nights at this point.

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Quote from: madness on 02-07-23, 12:38PM

Quote from: Bobmay on 02-07-23, 05:32AM

Quote from: madness on 01-07-23, 08:18PM

Quote from: Bobmay on 30-06-23, 02:18PM

Quote from: King1999 on 29-06-23, 05:07PMOr even more novel.....drop the serve, pick and fill BS and give people pride in their jobs again, so they want to do the extra shifts.  Creating a place where they enjoy their job and want to do more, like it use to be.  Never happen I know.

Tesco will never drop that.  In fact they wished they had done it sooner.  if they need to cut hours now they can and instead move people around without no large payout.

Yep 100%
They believed that people were far more loyal and wouldnt take the money and just move to another retailer.

Retail is far more competitive today. Tesco wants to work on the model of lidl avd aldi. Where there us no redundancy avd people are moved around where they need them. Why pay 40k for redundancy when you can just put somone on different departments which saves cost of trainings and interviews plus the person has experience. In my  situation it is far better since I work in Express store for nights so if they do want to cut in order to save they will need to pay redundancy. Considering I work nights avd get paid 14.30 an hour and 16 pound an hour on bank holidays avd sundays I strongly believe they will want to cut that. They are already struggling for staff in morning evenings anyway.

Agreed they want the Aldi Lidl model but they dont want to drop the beurocratic c**p that tesco has. 18 year old kids on 12 hr contracts that are 1 month into a job being allowed to change stock levels is madness...

Why do you Night workers think thet will be made redundant?  When you are all on the same contract as a Wage Clerk or any other member of Staff since October?  Both jobs are going at some point in actual fact as Night workers you can do fill in days they will ask for you to do twilight's or something!  Where as alot of Wage Clerk's only do Wages and are too old to be filling, picking, etc.

They can ask us but if we disagree than they will have to pay us redundancy. Nightbare the only few left that cant be changed unless they pay redundancy

Quote from: Doodah on 03-07-23, 12:42AMAnd just to clarify some points on my previous post, those store  refits included all new freezers, fridges and produce cabinets, the fridges all have doors and the produce cabinets all have the insulated curtain you pull down when the store is presumably closed to save on energy. All lighting was redone in the stores (including new timing circuits).

General feeling here is that the refits were part of a tax dodge after the windfall covid profits.

The company is killing a few birds with one stone here, spend the money while they have it/refit the stores to be more energy efficient/do it while there's still a nightcrew in place/ then clear out the night teams and reap the energy savings. The shops are lit up like Xmas trees over night for literally 2 or 3 people in some stores.

My advice to anyone on nights with a good number of years of service is to stick it out for 6 to 18 months and your in with a shot at redundancy. Take it if they offer it.

The last rounds of redundancy I saw 2 guys on nights with the same service. One took a move to days, got an 8k payout (lost 4k on tax) store manager played on his fears of not finding other work too easily and convinced him totake the move. The other guy took 25k in redundancy (tax free) and got a phone call less than two months later to come back despite there being a supposed 6 month minimum break between redundancy and returning to the company

I told everyone on here months ago tesco will be cutting nights either fully or to twilight no one listened.And fnanj you for probing my point that they will cut it eventually.

Quote from: Duff McKagan on 03-07-23, 01:26PMCome on @Bobmay, where you at? They're singing your song here....

Don't worry mate I will be getting redundancy very soon.  The store I work in is one of the final stores that is an express that still has nights.  They announced a few months ago they will be making a decision soon whether to remove it.

The decision to ditch the Wage Clerk has been put on hold. So they won't be going in October after all.

Any more details Mikoo?

Quote from: Mikoo on 23-07-23, 06:37PMThe decision to ditch the Wage Clerk has been put on hold. So they won't be going in October after all.

How do you know that?  The work is disappearing daily! What are we suppose to do?  The Job description has only about 7 jobs 4 disappeared with HRAM!